Cellular phones topics - Re: iPhone and cell phones in general: "Trusted" (treaturous) computing in a new cloak

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Re: iPhone and cell phones in general: "Trusted" (treaturous) computing in a new cloak

Larry

2008-03-09, 10:33 am

ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote in
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> On Mar 9, 12:30 am, Tim Smith <reply_in_gr...@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
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> Riight, it will be limited to business trying to secure their data.
> It would never be used for evil purposes such as lock up incriminating
> documents to prevent whistle blowing. It surely would not be used in
> the home and foisted on users by big media and software companies so
> people cannot do whatever the hell they want with the music, movies,
> software and the very computers they paid for. </sarcasm>
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> Say, I have a bridge I think you will really be interested in...
>

Only the concept of planted shills or seat warmers can explain the rabid
defense of locking up any software system. Why would any user, no matter
how stupid, buy a car he wasn't allowed to open the hood on, but had to go
back to his nanny dealer to pay to check the oil. Same idea.....how
stupid.

Jeff Jonas

2008-03-09, 3:33 pm

>>> > "Trusted" Computing
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Those are all great references, thanks!
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The measures/countermeasures wars have been happening ever since Macrovision
and dare I suggest we can rely on folks
(mostly outside of the US, thus not under US laws)
to explore, crack and expose the weakness of all such plans.

I personally think it is stupid to try it in the first place,
but stupidity loves to reinvent itself :-(
It would be poetic justice to do things like dump ALL the broken/abandoned
DIVX players and disks in the homes of those responsible for CREATING the system
and forcing it upon the public: it's now their respobsibility to
CLEAN UP THE MESS and all the waste they created.
Yea, sure, as if corporate responsibility was ever really going to happen :-(
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>Only the concept of planted shills or seat warmers can explain the rabid
>defense of locking up any software system. Why would any user, no matter
>how stupid, buy a car he wasn't allowed to open the hood on, but had to go
>back to his nanny dealer to pay to check the oil. Same idea.....how stupid.

I agree with WHAT you're saying but not exactly with HOW you're saying it.

Consider video games: most use proprietory cartridges and are extremely
protective of granting licenses to games. The cynic says it's solely to extract
revenue from the games they didn't even create. But Youtube and game web sites
show how many games were really unplayable, unreliable, insulting or just plain stupid,
so there is /slight/ validity to the game mfgr holding games
to a standard of enjoyment and playability.

Some folks treat their cars are appliances: they delegate all maintenance
to the local mechanic or dealer. But yes, they ought to have the CHOICE of where
to bring the car, not be forced to pay excessive fees to ONLY their
authorized dealer.

The bottom line: I agree that DRM is bad since it takes away one's right to
access/control/enjoy their own devices.
"you can BUY it but you can't OWN it".

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