Bluetooth discussion - Newbie Here (?)

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sonata32

2006-09-04, 10:33 am

Hello groups. My company provided us with a LG 5300 model phones. I noticed
this phone is Bluetooth capable so I went to a Verizon store and the rep
told me to purchase the Motorola H500 BT (49.99). I went home to charged the
it (3 hours) until light went off. I then paired it up my phone according to
the manual. Made 6 phone calls and everyone I talked to said that their
voice is echoing. On my end, I heard them loud and clear. I played around
with the volumes on the phone and Bluetooth unit and still no change. The
next day while I was driving to work I called the Motorola company (on
manual) and to help me troubleshoot the problem. Even the rep heard the
echoing and sis not have an answer for me. She suggested to bring it back to
the store. After work I went back to the store and returned it and explained
to rep what was happening. I then purchased the Jabra JBT150 model. Again,
did the same thing to (charged + pair) made a few calls and it worked fine.
The 3rd call started to echo to the person I was speaking to. Now I had this
model for 3 days no and it worked 5 times out of 8. What is causing this?
What model is recommended to use? Also, Is there a good Bluetooth out here
that is a bit smaller? This one wobbles and looks like a huge roach on my
ear. (lol) thanks for your time.

Jeff

PeteS

2006-09-05, 10:33 am

sonata32 wrote:
> Hello groups. My company provided us with a LG 5300 model phones. I noticed
> this phone is Bluetooth capable so I went to a Verizon store and the rep
> told me to purchase the Motorola H500 BT (49.99). I went home to charged the
> it (3 hours) until light went off. I then paired it up my phone according to
> the manual. Made 6 phone calls and everyone I talked to said that their
> voice is echoing. On my end, I heard them loud and clear. I played around
> with the volumes on the phone and Bluetooth unit and still no change. The
> next day while I was driving to work I called the Motorola company (on
> manual) and to help me troubleshoot the problem. Even the rep heard the
> echoing and sis not have an answer for me. She suggested to bring it back to
> the store. After work I went back to the store and returned it and explained
> to rep what was happening. I then purchased the Jabra JBT150 model. Again,
> did the same thing to (charged + pair) made a few calls and it worked fine.
> The 3rd call started to echo to the person I was speaking to. Now I had this
> model for 3 days no and it worked 5 times out of 8. What is causing this?
> What model is recommended to use? Also, Is there a good Bluetooth out here
> that is a bit smaller? This one wobbles and looks like a huge roach on my
> ear. (lol) thanks for your time.
>
> Jeff

Cell phones have built-in echo cancellers that are normally switched
off when you link to an external headset (be it bluetooth or anything
else). Bluetooth headsets, in general, do _not_ have echo cancellers as
there is no expectation of acoustic coupling from the earpiece (which
should be embedded in your ear) and the microphone.
(Echo cancellers are not the same as noise cancellers)

If the earpiece is set quite loud and is _not_ properly fitted in your
ear (as you hint at), then there will be some acoustic coupling and
bingo, you have echo around your bluetooth headset.

Cheers

PeteS

Frank H

2006-09-05, 12:33 pm

On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:47:22 -0400, "sonata32" <sonata32@cox.net>
wrote:

>Hello groups. My company provided us with a LG 5300 model phones. I noticed
>this phone is Bluetooth capable so I went to a Verizon store and the rep
>told me to purchase the Motorola H500 BT (49.99). I went home to charged the
>it (3 hours) until light went off. I then paired it up my phone according to
>the manual. Made 6 phone calls and everyone I talked to said that their
>voice is echoing. On my end, I heard them loud and clear. I played around
>with the volumes on the phone and Bluetooth unit and still no change. The
>next day while I was driving to work I called the Motorola company (on
>manual) and to help me troubleshoot the problem. Even the rep heard the
>echoing and sis not have an answer for me. She suggested to bring it back to
>the store. After work I went back to the store and returned it and explained
>to rep what was happening. I then purchased the Jabra JBT150 model. Again,
>did the same thing to (charged + pair) made a few calls and it worked fine.
>The 3rd call started to echo to the person I was speaking to. Now I had this
>model for 3 days no and it worked 5 times out of 8. What is causing this?
>What model is recommended to use? Also, Is there a good Bluetooth out here
>that is a bit smaller? This one wobbles and looks like a huge roach on my
>ear. (lol) thanks for your time.
>
>Jeff
>

Hello Jeff,

I ran into pretty much the same thing here. I had no previous
bluetooth knowledge, but I felt it was a tangle free way to use a
hands free setup.
Bought the same motorola H500, had this echo, and others said it
sounded to them as if I was driving past a fence.
I returned the head set for a Jabra X-10, same or similar result.
Then I was told about the NXZEN 5000 by Gennum.
Wow, it uses two mikes, and some advanced noise cancelling.
I purchased one. Did the charging and the pairing.
It works perfectly, and without any sound problems. No echo, no fence
effect at all. It is like I am speaking person to person.
On their web site they have sound samples for you to hear and even
download. It is quite impressive. I love this thing. It is a keeper!

Hope this helps.

Cheers, Frank BC Canada

sonata32

2006-09-06, 7:33 am

Frank,

Thanks so much. I will oder it today. Best price I found via online is
116.00. Is it cheaper anywhere else?

Jeff

"Frank H" <gacksakura-unsubscribe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 09:47:22 -0400, "sonata32" <sonata32@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Jeff,
>
> I ran into pretty much the same thing here. I had no previous
> bluetooth knowledge, but I felt it was a tangle free way to use a
> hands free setup.
> Bought the same motorola H500, had this echo, and others said it
> sounded to them as if I was driving past a fence.
> I returned the head set for a Jabra X-10, same or similar result.
> Then I was told about the NXZEN 5000 by Gennum.
> Wow, it uses two mikes, and some advanced noise cancelling.
> I purchased one. Did the charging and the pairing.
> It works perfectly, and without any sound problems. No echo, no fence
> effect at all. It is like I am speaking person to person.
> On their web site they have sound samples for you to hear and even
> download. It is quite impressive. I love this thing. It is a keeper!
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers, Frank BC Canada

sonata32

2006-09-06, 7:33 am

Pete,

Thanks for the detailed info. Very interesting

Jeff

"PeteS" < PeterSmith1954@googl
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> sonata32 wrote:
>
> Cell phones have built-in echo cancellers that are normally switched
> off when you link to an external headset (be it bluetooth or anything
> else). Bluetooth headsets, in general, do _not_ have echo cancellers as
> there is no expectation of acoustic coupling from the earpiece (which
> should be embedded in your ear) and the microphone.
> (Echo cancellers are not the same as noise cancellers)
>
> If the earpiece is set quite loud and is _not_ properly fitted in your
> ear (as you hint at), then there will be some acoustic coupling and
> bingo, you have echo around your bluetooth headset.
>
> Cheers
>
> PeteS
>

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