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Re: Final 2nd Quarter Carrier Results
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| user@domain.invalid 2006-08-10, 10:33 pm |
| SMS wrote:
> T-Mobile reported on August 10th (in Europe) so here are the final
> statistice for the five largest U.S. wireless carriers.
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> As you can see, Verizon is the only carrier that is really doing well by
> all metrics. Verizon has the lowest churn, the highest number of net
> additions, an increasing ARPU, and a big increase in market share.
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How about profit for each company? To me that is the most important number.
-Jason
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| user@domain.invalid wrote:
> SMS wrote:
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> How about profit for each company? To me that is the most important
> number.
It's not possible to know the profits of the wireless portion of
carriers like Cingular and Verizon.
The accepted metrics are net additions, churn, ARPU, and market share,
as well as the trends for each of those metrics over time. And of course
all the metrics need to be looked at simultaneously, since a carrier
could drop their pants on price to increase net additions and market
share, or give away the store by their retention department offering
unprofitable deals to reduce churn.
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| John L 2006-08-11, 10:33 am |
| >> How about profit for each company? To me that is the most important
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>It's not possible to know the profits of the wireless portion of
>carriers like Cingular and Verizon.
I don't see why not.
Cingular is a pure wireless operator and it files 10K and 10Q with the
SEC even though it is owned by T and BLS. The latest 10Q says that
for the first six months of 2006 they had revenue of $18.2 billion,
operating income of $1.8M, and net income of $894M, with most of the
difference between the last two being interest expense and income
taxes. Compared to the first six months of last year, operating
income tripled and net income swung from loss to profit.
VZW is also a pure wireless operator, a partership between Verizon and
Vodafone that also files 10K and 10Q. Its latest 10Q says that for
the first six months of 2006 revenue was $18 billion, operating income
$4.5G, net income $3.7B, all somewhat better than last year.
Regards,
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| Isaiah Beard 2006-08-11, 3:33 pm |
| John L wrote:
> I don't see why not.
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> Cingular is a pure wireless operator and it files 10K and 10Q with the
> SEC even though it is owned by T and BLS. The latest 10Q says that
> for the first six months of 2006 they had revenue of $18.2 billion,
> operating income of $1.8M, and net income of $894M, with most of the
> difference between the last two being interest expense and income
> taxes. Compared to the first six months of last year, operating
> income tripled and net income swung from loss to profit.
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> VZW is also a pure wireless operator, a partership between Verizon and
> Vodafone that also files 10K and 10Q. Its latest 10Q says that for
> the first six months of 2006 revenue was $18 billion, operating income
> $4.5G, net income $3.7B, all somewhat better than last year.
Interesting. Can you post a link to these 10-K and 10-Q's?
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| John L 2006-08-11, 10:33 pm |
| >Interesting. Can you post a link to these 10-K and 10-Q's?
I found them each in about 30 seconds on the Cingular and VZW web sites.
All SEC filings are available at http://edgar.sec.gov
R's,
John
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