AT-T wireless service - CHARTER of alt.cellular.cingular

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CHARTER of alt.cellular.cingular

John Navas

2007-01-06, 10:33 pm

CHARTER:

This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
in the English language, and human-readable.

Inappropriate (banned) articles:
* Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
* Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
* Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
* Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
* Work-at-home or other scams
* Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
* Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
* Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
* Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
* Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices

MODERATOR INFO:

The group is unmoderated.

Ron Chapman

2007-01-06, 10:33 pm

In article
<X9nmh.315469$Fi1.307159@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

> CHARTER:
>
> This newsgroup is for discussion of topics directly related to Cingular
> Wireless service, including voice, data (GPRS as well as GSM), and fax.
> Non-commercial For Sale and Want To Buy notices for compatible products,
> tagged in the subject line with "FS" and "WTB" respectively (without the
> quote symbols), are permitted. All articles must be in plain text only,
> in the English language, and human-readable.
>
> Inappropriate (banned) articles:
> * Off-topic (not directly related to Cingular Wireless service)
> * Binaries (except for appended text-encoded digital signatures)
> * Spam (including excessive cross-posting)
> * Make-money-fast or other chain or fraudulent schemes
> * Work-at-home or other scams
> * Commercial advertisements, "infomercials," or announcements
> * Auction notices (e.g., eBay)
> * Forged articles (anonymous articles are allowed)
> * Personal insults or repetitive flaming (attacks)
> * Employment (help and/or position wanted) notices

ok....

>
> MODERATOR INFO:
>
> The group is unmoderated.

Ah. So how is the charter enforced?

2007-01-06, 10:33 pm

this is enforced by visiting the anus at :

21001 San Ramon Valley Blvd A4-135
San Ramon, California 94583-3454
US
+1.9255494424

In article <someone-796E24. 06494502012007@nntp2
.usenetserver.com>,
Ron Chapman <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:

> In article
> <X9nmh.315469$Fi1.307159@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
> ok....
>
>
>
> Ah. So how is the charter enforced?
>

SMS

2007-01-06, 10:33 pm

sw wrote:
> this is enforced by visiting the anus at :
>
> 21001 San Ramon Valley Blvd A4-135
> San Ramon, California 94583-3454
> US

This is a UPS store,
"http://www.theupsstore.com/locations/locdet.asp? strCenterNum=MBE2930
"
so I don't think you can visit him there.

Anytime you see an address in this format it's usually one of those mail
box rental places where you can have a business address without the
"stigma" of an address with a PO Box format.

Whenever I see a business address at a mail box rental place it's a huge
red flag. Those places are extremely inconvenient, as unlike the US Post
Office, you only have access to your box during business hours, while
most post offices have 24 hour box access. The only reason to have a box
at one of these places, that charge significantly more than the USPS, is
if you're trying to mislead potential customers as to the scope and
nature of your business.

Evan Platt

2007-01-06, 10:34 pm

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 08:18:46 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>Anytime you see an address in this format it's usually one of those mail
>box rental places where you can have a business address without the
>"stigma" of an address with a PO Box format.

You can, I believe, use the Post Office's address as your address for
mail, ie if the post office is 1234 Main Street, and you have box #
452, you can use
1234 Main Street #452.

>Whenever I see a business address at a mail box rental place it's a huge
>red flag. Those places are extremely inconvenient, as unlike the US Post
>Office, you only have access to your box during business hours, while
>most post offices have 24 hour box access. The only reason to have a box
>at one of these places, that charge significantly more than the USPS, is
> if you're trying to mislead potential customers as to the scope and
>nature of your business.

Umm.. some of those places do have 24 hour access.

SMS

2007-01-06, 10:34 pm

Evan Platt wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 08:18:46 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> You can, I believe, use the Post Office's address as your address for
> mail, ie if the post office is 1234 Main Street, and you have box #
> 452, you can use
> 1234 Main Street #452.

You will get a nastygram from the postmaster of the post office where
the box is located if you do this. They set out the requirements for
addressing in the application for the box, and they are quite familiar
with people trying to masquerade a P.O. Box as a physical address, and
don't allow it.

>
> Umm.. some of those places do have 24 hour access.

Very few. Back before my post office had 24 hour access (due to a design
where the box lobby ceiling was a dropped ceiling that went into the
rest of the post office), I checked out those private mail box places. I
didn't find one that was 24 hours. Certainly the one in question is not
24 hours. They also charge about 4x what the USPS charges for a box. Two
bad the 24 hour Kinko's don't offer boxes.

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