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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-01-16, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:16:39 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>"http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/16470186.htm"
The story boils down to one word why TV shows aren't watched on cell
phones.
Its "Squintavision"
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| decaturtxcowboy 2007-01-16, 10:33 pm |
| SMS wrote:
> "http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/business/16470186.htm"
Last year, perhaps year before last...I posted an item about cellphone TV.
One side of the story pointed out TV is a "sit-down" experience, one not
adaptable to driving or walking. The other side was full of the same hype
we heard before the internet balloon burst say how much people will want to
embrace it, yada, yada, yada....
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| Larry 2007-01-16, 10:33 pm |
| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
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> The story boils down to one word why TV shows aren't watched on cell
> phones.
>
> Its "Squintavision"
>
Standing at the counter listening to the pitch, I started looking around,
not finding what I was looking for. The Pitchman made the mistake of
asking what I was looking for. "Where's the Fresnel lens, that plastic
sheet that will make it big enough so I can see his face on that little
screen?"
I've never seen a pitchman shut down his presentation THAT fast!
I could almost make out the colors of the two teams with my strongest
reading glasses, but reading the score was like looking at cnn.com's
webpage without WAP!
Oh, sorry. We weren't looking at the cellphone. This was that tiny Sony
Vaio tablet PC with the tiny touchscreen that slid up to reveal the
unusable keyboard beneath. I couldn't tell whether the cellphones were
in TV mode or whether we were looking at the contact list with background
audio noise...(c;
Are Japanese people being cloned SMALLER than they already are to save
space in the crowded country??
Larry
--
Extremely intelligent life exists that is so smart they never called
Earth.
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| decaturtxcowboy wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>
> Last year, perhaps year before last...I posted an item about cellphone
> TV. One side of the story pointed out TV is a "sit-down" experience, one
> not adaptable to driving or walking.
That's the big difference between the U.S. and much of Europe and Asia.
When I'm in Japan and Korea, there's a tremendous amount of text
messaging and watching other crap on phones, but it's because people are
bored while commuting on the train or subway and because it's considered
rude to be talking on your phone on the subway.
If commuting on public transit ever became more popular for the middle
class in the U.S., outside of cities like NY, Chicago, and San
Francisco, then data usage on the cellular networks would go way up.
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| George 2007-01-17, 10:33 am |
| SMS wrote:
> decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
> That's the big difference between the U.S. and much of Europe and Asia.
>
> When I'm in Japan and Korea, there's a tremendous amount of text
> messaging and watching other crap on phones, but it's because people are
> bored while commuting on the train or subway and because it's considered
> rude to be talking on your phone on the subway.
>
> If commuting on public transit ever became more popular for the middle
> class in the U.S., outside of cities like NY, Chicago, and San
> Francisco, then data usage on the cellular networks would go way up.
But they have better manners than us. I happened to be on a subway a few
weeks ago in the US. It was on a fairly long stretch that was above
ground and the nextel walkie-talkie speakerphones and beeping sounds
would drive anyone crazy.
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| James Clark 2007-01-17, 10:33 am |
| George wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>
> But they have better manners than us. I happened to be on a subway a few
> weeks ago in the US. It was on a fairly long stretch that was above
> ground and the nextel walkie-talkie speakerphones and beeping sounds
> would drive anyone crazy.
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| David G. Imber 2007-01-17, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 20:38:57 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
>That's the big difference between the U.S. and much of Europe and Asia.
>
>When I'm in Japan and Korea, there's a tremendous amount of text
>messaging and watching other crap on phones, but it's because people are
>bored while commuting on the train or subway and because it's considered
>rude to be talking on your phone on the subway.
That's true, but there's more to it. I can't comment on Korea
or Europe, but in Japan 75% of the working population spends an
average of 3 hours daily on above ground trains. Obviously that's
plenty of time to use and/or kill.
But there are also advantageous pricing plans. Most of my
friends in Japan pay about the same as we do on average in the US for
their monthly cell phone use, some a bit less. However, I don't know
anyone who doesn't have flat-rate unlimited text messaging included in
their plan package, along with direct file and photo transfers across
carriers, tv transmission and a number of other extras, and for good
measure incentive pricing on music downloads. I don't follow all of
the cellular companies in the US, but I think that's rare to
non-existent among US wireless carriers for equally priced monthly
packages.
DGI
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| David G. Imber wrote:
> But there are also advantageous pricing plans. Most of my
> friends in Japan pay about the same as we do on average in the US for
> their monthly cell phone use, some a bit less. However, I don't know
> anyone who doesn't have flat-rate unlimited text messaging included in
> their plan package, along with direct file and photo transfers across
> carriers, tv transmission and a number of other extras, and for good
> measure incentive pricing on music downloads. I don't follow all of
> the cellular companies in the US, but I think that's rare to
> non-existent among US wireless carriers for equally priced monthly
> packages.
The pricing is one factor. The available time while commuting on
transit, is another factor. The quality of the coverage is another factor.
The carriers could create advantageous pricing plans, and they would if
they believed that there overall revenue would go up, despite lower
revenue from the hard-core users that are now paying the high prices.
The carriers are working at improving the high speed data coverage, as
well as increasing the speed. But there's nothing the carriers can do
about converting the U.S. to a society where commuters use public transit.
I recall a co-worker that was from Germany telling me about his friend
from Switzerland coming to visit him in Silicon Valley. He told his
friend to take the commuter train from Sunnyvale to San Francisco.
The friend returned that night, shaking his head in disbelief, saying
that these were the kinds of trains that Switzerland got rid of in the
late 1930's. It took 80 minutes to go 40 miles, jerking and jolting the
whole way.
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| David G. Imber 2007-01-18, 4:33 am |
| On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:06:04 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:
>The pricing is one factor. The available time while commuting on
>transit, is another factor. The quality of the coverage is another factor.
Yes, Japan has benefited from having basically one protocol
nationwide. It means less development overhead.
>
>The carriers could create advantageous pricing plans, and they would if
>they believed that there overall revenue would go up, despite lower
>revenue from the hard-core users that are now paying the high prices.
I agree, and I think this represents a difference in business
philosophies between the two cultures. I've lived between the US and
Japan for a long time and it's always been the case that in Japan new
technologies roll out at a low cost, even though it represents a
transitional hardship for the bottom line, because businesses
ultimately benefit from widespread popular, instead of limited
"specialist", adoption. I don't want to editorialize, but this
shortsightedness has retarded technological growth in this country.
It's one reason that Japan is almost entirely wired for 10 mps data
transmission at the equivalent of $25-$30/month, while our fastest
DSL speeds in the US aren't even considered under the term
"broadband". Not US-bashing as much as a feeling of being ridiculously
shortchanged. My mother-in-law on the outskirts of Hiroshima has FIOS,
but Verizon won't even guesstimate when I'll have it here in Manhattan
near the Financial District. US technology companies don't seem to
want to do business unless they can make an immediate "killing". There
is no desire to work at developing a market.
>The carriers are working at improving the high speed data coverage, as
>well as increasing the speed. But there's nothing the carriers can do
>about converting the U.S. to a society where commuters use public transit.
All the more reason if the technology requires no significant
upgrade of the service structure companies should literally give it
away in limited quantities so that the culture can come to depend upon
it, and eventually be willing to pay to upgrade the product in various
ways. But US companies don't think like that. If I didn't have to pay
for a separate texting package I might text, regardless of the fact
that I don't truly need to. If I used it and found I liked it, I'd be
willing to shell out for it. Seems elementary to me.
>The friend returned that night, shaking his head in disbelief, saying
>that these were the kinds of trains that Switzerland got rid of in the
>late 1930's. It took 80 minutes to go 40 miles, jerking and jolting the
>whole way.
Yes, my wife compares US passenger trains to amusement park
thrill rides where she grew up. But filthier.
DGI
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| Larry 2007-01-18, 10:33 pm |
| David G. Imber <imber@maniform.com> wrote in
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If you ride South of DC on Amtrak, make sure you get seats in the MIDDLE of
the car, not the ends. You get a 2:1 mechanical advantage over being
thrown sideways half the distance every time the unkept freight tracks have
an unintended expansion joint. Unfortunately, the toilets are the worst
place on the car to be thrown sideways, even off your seats in many parts
of Florida between JAX and MIA via Tampa-St Pete.
How awful. Riding in Japan it's hard to tell you're going 120mph unless
you look out a window...(c;
Larry
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Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.
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| In article < Xns98BCAE1CB1294noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> David G. Imber <imber@maniform.com> wrote in
> news:444uq2di3hc40uq
n5iq1ttc95asi1bumoe@
4ax.com:
>
>
> If you ride South of DC on Amtrak, make sure you get seats in the MIDDLE of
> the car, not the ends. You get a 2:1 mechanical advantage over being
> thrown sideways half the distance every time the unkept freight tracks have
> an unintended expansion joint. Unfortunately, the toilets are the worst
> place on the car to be thrown sideways, even off your seats in many parts
> of Florida between JAX and MIA via Tampa-St Pete.
>
> How awful. Riding in Japan it's hard to tell you're going 120mph unless
> you look out a window...(c;
>
> Larry
You east-coast commuters have all the fun.
The LA rail system is actually quite good, but then again, it's all new.
But then again, I have a business that I run out of my house.
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| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-B51D9D.17225718012007
@news.giganews.com:
> You east-coast commuters have all the fun.
> The LA rail system is actually quite good, but then again, it's all new.
> But then again, I have a business that I run out of my house.
>
>
But then again, a 3BR, 2BA brand new home on a 1/2 acre lot full of oak
trees with a 2-car garage in a nice neighborhood is $130K in Charleston,
SC. You don't have to work 80 hours a week to buy one...(c;
Oh, Gas is $2.07/gallon at Sunoco up the street....which makes Californians
drool, obscenely.
Larry
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Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.
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| In article < Xns98BE11B377725noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-B51D9D.17225718012007
> @news.giganews.com:
>
>
> But then again, a 3BR, 2BA brand new home on a 1/2 acre lot full of oak
> trees with a 2-car garage in a nice neighborhood is $130K in Charleston,
> SC. You don't have to work 80 hours a week to buy one...(c;
>
> Oh, Gas is $2.07/gallon at Sunoco up the street....which makes Californians
> drool, obscenely.
>
But you do have the weather. There's a reason why it's so cheap to live
there.
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| Larry 2007-01-20, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-02586E.17330320012007
@news.giganews.com:
> But you do have the weather. There's a reason why it's so cheap to live
> there.
>
But, no earthquakes since 1886. No major plate faults running under the
dining room and garage....(c;
Oh, and waterfront property doesn't fall off the cliff into the ocean,
either!
Didn't I read something about wild fires where you live?....(c;
Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.
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| In article < Xns98BEEB4359384noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-02586E.17330320012007
> @news.giganews.com:
>
>
> But, no earthquakes since 1886. No major plate faults running under the
> dining room and garage....(c;
>
> Oh, and waterfront property doesn't fall off the cliff into the ocean,
> either!
>
> Didn't I read something about wild fires where you live?....(c;
>
> Larry
Yes, if you live in the mountains. No cliffs in NC, so no houses falling
into water. People make the choice to live in landslide area. Not me.
Tornado will wipe you out quicker than an earthquake. Lots of those in
southeast. Charlotte is 28% more than nation-wide average.
70s today, rode bike to beach. Had margaritas. No big heating bill in
winter, no AC bill in summer (because no AC - don't even need fans in
house).
I know I could own a mansion back there, but you pick your poison..
Too damn nice here.
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| John Richards 2007-01-21, 10:33 pm |
| "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns98BEEB435938
4noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-02586E.17330320012007
> @news.giganews.com:
>
>
> But, no earthquakes since 1886. No major plate faults running under the
> dining room and garage....(c;
But you do have hurricanes, tornadoes, thunderstorms, high humidity,
mosquitoes, etc.
--
John Richards (in northern California)
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|
| Kurt wrote:
> In article < Xns98BE11B377725noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> But you do have the weather. There's a reason why it's so cheap to live
> there.
>
I have to work out here for 6 months. and it is hell for me. people are
scared to death of weather love to sit in traffic and willing to pay for
overpriced homes. When my time is up I am back to Boston never to
return. Just my 2 cents.
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| Curtis R Anderson 2007-01-21, 10:33 pm |
| SMS wrote:
> decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
>
>
> That's the big difference between the U.S. and much of Europe and Asia.
>
> When I'm in Japan and Korea, there's a tremendous amount of text
> messaging and watching other crap on phones, but it's because people are
> bored while commuting on the train or subway and because it's considered
> rude to be talking on your phone on the subway.
>
> If commuting on public transit ever became more popular for the middle
> class in the U.S., outside of cities like NY, Chicago, and San
> Francisco, then data usage on the cellular networks would go way up.
And it is on a long bus ride, over 35 minutes for one route I can take,
when I sit there and use WAP or play a BREW application. I'll get the
spam cleaned out in my email on my ride home, making sorting it easier
when I sit down at the main system later in the evening.
Other than text messaging, I'm surprised I'm not seeing more WAP usage
from others.
--
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"In Heaven there is no beer / That's why we drink it here ..."
http://www.gleepy.net/ mailto:gleepy@intell
igencia.com
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| In article <GVSsh.511$4H1.455@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,
"John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns98BEEB435938
4noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>
> But you do have hurricanes, tornadoes, thunderstorms, high humidity,
> mosquitoes, etc.
Inviting, isn't it?
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| In article <jZTsh.3574$O02.2320@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net>,
Sky <Sky@nospam.com> wrote:
> Kurt wrote:
> I have to work out here for 6 months. and it is hell for me. people are
> scared to death of weather love to sit in traffic and willing to pay for
> overpriced homes. When my time is up I am back to Boston never to
> return. Just my 2 cents.
And Boston is any better? LOL
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| Larry 2007-01-21, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
3EE88D.15242021012007@news.giganews.com:
> Tornado will wipe you out quicker than an earthquake. Lots of those in
> southeast. Charlotte is 28% more than nation-wide average.
>
> 70s today, rode bike to beach. Had margaritas. No big heating bill in
> winter, no AC bill in summer (because no AC - don't even need fans in
> house).
> I know I could own a mansion back there, but you pick your poison..
> Too damn nice here.
>
>
“Tornadoes” in the South aren’t what you see on TV in Oklahoma with
idiots chasing them with portable radars. They look like swinging ropes
hanging out of the sky, about 10’ wide. They can take the shingles off
the roof and tear up small trees. But, being 10’ wide, your chances of
being run over by one are about nil, unlike the monsters on the plains.
28% more 10’ wide “tornadoes” isn’t much. The warnings are scarier than
the storms.
It was 80 last week, but Canadian air came blasting South and it
eventually gets us, here on the coast. It’s 63 at 2230 EST, right now.
We didn’t quite make 70. I spent the last two days fooling around with
my English friend’s French Amel Sharki 41 ketch, installing a new AIS
(Automatic Information System) receiver and integrating it into The Cap’n
nav software on the boat’s navigation computer, yesterday. Today, I was
glad it was cool. I reinstalled our driveshaft alternator that provides
power to run the toys when we are under sail, about 20A at 8 knots. The
free-turning propeller the sails haul through the water power the shaft
and turn this special, slow-turning, alternator. It charges the massive
batteries while underway for radar, sonar, sailing instrumentation,
autopilot so I can sleep on watch and go straight, computer, chart
plotters, LCD TV. I ran the 4-cylinder Perkins diesel engine for 10
minutes before I sat on it to keep my hiney warm while working in the
engine room. We sure don’t do that in summer in SC...(c;
I was quite cold, last night at the marina dock party thrown for some old
friends who have completely restored a beautiful old double-ender sloop.
They’re leaving us for the Caribbean islands Tuesday with the tide,
offshore. The oyster roast was fantastic....
Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.
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| Larry 2007-01-21, 10:33 pm |
| "John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in news:GVSsh.511$4H1.455
@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net:
> But you do have hurricanes, tornadoes, thunderstorms, high humidity,
> mosquitoes, etc.
>
> --
> John Richards (in northern California)
>
>
Hmm...you left out alligators, gnats, the damned sea otters that ate the
floatation foam out of our little dingy boat and a pelican that stole my
lunch off the cabin roof of the yacht this afternoon. He just swooped down
and it was GONE! Sneaky bastard....
How far are you from Bohemian Grove, where the elite class holds their
satanic rituals?
Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.
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| Larry 2007-01-21, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
C91468.17464921012007@news.giganews.com:
> And Boston is any better? LOL
>
We had dinner in a very nice Italian restaurant in Boston a few years
back. I forget the name but it’s not far from the Coast Guard Base,
where we were working on HF transmitters.
We were working on dessert when this very nicely dressed man in a very
expensive suit came up to our table and asked John and I if we had
enjoyed our meal. We had. He then asked us to leave, quickly, and told
us our check had been taken care of. John was about to say something,
but I hushed him up and we took our leave. Stepping outside onto the
street, there was a line of black limos with LARGE, really fit men in
black suits guarding them. I surmised “the family” was having a little
business meeting in the Italian restaurant. Later, the Coasties
stationed there said that was the right restaurant for such a meeting.
The food was superb, if one can just leave when told to..(c; That was my
lasting impression of Boston....(c;
I understand they closed up the strip with all the porn shops and dirty
movie houses.........Pity.
Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.
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| Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
news:Xns98BFE8BB0D40
6noonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
> C91468.17464921012007@news.giganews.com:
>
>
> We had dinner in a very nice Italian restaurant in Boston a few years
> back. I forget the name but it’s not far from the Coast Guard Base,
> where we were working on HF transmitters.
>
> We were working on dessert when this very nicely dressed man in a very
> expensive suit came up to our table and asked John and I if we had
> enjoyed our meal. We had. He then asked us to leave, quickly, and
> told us our check had been taken care of. John was about to say
> something, but I hushed him up and we took our leave. Stepping
> outside onto the street, there was a line of black limos with LARGE,
> really fit men in black suits guarding them. I surmised “the family”
> was having a little business meeting in the Italian restaurant.
> Later, the Coasties stationed there said that was the right restaurant
> for such a meeting. The food was superb, if one can just leave when
> told to..(c; That was my lasting impression of Boston....(c;
>
> I understand they closed up the strip with all the porn shops and
> dirty movie houses.........Pity.
>
> Larry
Yes the in crowed lives there so what? The strip was The Combat Zone. A
great idea put it all in one area and if you wanted that stuff that is
where you went. It was nicely controlled.
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| In article < Xns98BFE8BB0D406noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-
> C91468.17464921012007@news.giganews.com:
>
>
> We had dinner in a very nice Italian restaurant in Boston a few years
> back. I forget the name but it’s not far from the Coast Guard Base,
> where we were working on HF transmitters.
>
> We were working on dessert when this very nicely dressed man in a very
> expensive suit came up to our table and asked John and I if we had
> enjoyed our meal. We had. He then asked us to leave, quickly, and told
> us our check had been taken care of. John was about to say something,
> but I hushed him up and we took our leave. Stepping outside onto the
> street, there was a line of black limos with LARGE, really fit men in
> black suits guarding them. I surmised “the family” was having a little
> business meeting in the Italian restaurant. Later, the Coasties
> stationed there said that was the right restaurant for such a meeting.
> The food was superb, if one can just leave when told to..(c; That was my
> lasting impression of Boston....(c;
>
> I understand they closed up the strip with all the porn shops and dirty
> movie houses.........Pity.
>
> Larry
Still too cold in winter and too hot in summer.
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| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in
news:labolide-B91EDB.07284922012007@news.giganews.com:
> In article < Xns98BFE8BB0D406noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> Still too cold in winter and too hot in summer.
>
Yes this is true Californians are brain washed into thinnking they have the
best weather on earth. I see it in the radio stations. It is sad but take
for what it is worth.
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| John Richards 2007-01-23, 4:33 am |
| "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns98BFE79782C8
noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in news:GVSsh.511$4H1.455
> @newssvr17.news.prodigy.net:
>
>
> Hmm...you left out alligators, gnats, the damned sea otters that ate the
> floatation foam out of our little dingy boat and a pelican that stole my
> lunch off the cabin roof of the yacht this afternoon. He just swooped down
> and it was GONE! Sneaky bastard....
>
> How far are you from Bohemian Grove, where the elite class holds their
> satanic rituals?
That's about 50 miles west of me. I'm in the Napa Valley wine country,
aka paradise.
--
John Richards
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| Larry 2007-01-23, 12:33 pm |
| "John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in news:o8jth.51705
$wc5.25401@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
> That's about 50 miles west of me. I'm in the Napa Valley wine country,
> aka paradise.
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> John Richards
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Hmm....you bring the wine. I'll bring the big shrimps and Blue Crabs....
(c;
Larry
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| In article < Xns98C17EFEEC189noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> "John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in news:o8jth.51705
> $wc5.25401@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net:
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> Hmm....you bring the wine. I'll bring the big shrimps and Blue Crabs....
> (c;
>
> Larry
I once got the crabs... Don't recall they were blue.
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| Larry 2007-01-24, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-4B07BC.08111524012007
@news.giganews.com:
> I once got the crabs... Don't recall they were blue.
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>
No, not quite the same. Ours have 8 legs...(c;
Larry
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| Larry 2007-01-24, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-4B07BC.08111524012007
@news.giganews.com:
> I once got the crabs... Don't recall they were blue.
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>
You still dating "her"?.....or "him"?
Larry
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Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.
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| In article < Xns98C2CB3F7116Anoon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-4B07BC.08111524012007
> @news.giganews.com:
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> No, not quite the same. Ours have 8 legs...(c;
>
I've seen the NC girls...
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| In article < Xns98C2CB5D34A68noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-4B07BC.08111524012007
> @news.giganews.com:
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> You still dating "her"?.....or "him"?
>
> Larry
Both- an Hermaphrodite. Got tired of trying to figure out which end was
up.
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| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-9588E3.18243624012007
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> I've seen the NC girls...
>
So have I, but of course that is in NORTH Carolina. Charleston is
conveniently located in SOUTH Carolina, a planet away.
Larry
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| Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in news:labolide-C2A09E.18262024012007
@news.giganews.com:
> Both- an Hermaphrodite. Got tired of trying to figure out which end was
> up.
>
>
Too bad there isn't a valve you can switch on those so you can have a horny
female when you're in the mood, then throw the valve and have a buddy guy
to go to the football games with....(c;
We'll have them like that, shortly, with genetic engineering. They'll not
have valves....Bluetooth remote controls you won't be able to pair with on
a Verizon cellphone all hobbled up like they are....
ON TOPIC! ON TOPIC!!...hee hee.
Larry
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| John Navas 2007-01-27, 12:33 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:45:01 GMT, Curtis R Anderson <gleepy@gleepy.net>
wrote in <xGUsh.9790$gS1.8509@trndny01>:
>SMS wrote:
>
>And it is on a long bus ride, over 35 minutes for one route I can take,
>when I sit there and use WAP or play a BREW application. I'll get the
>spam cleaned out in my email on my ride home, making sorting it easier
>when I sit down at the main system later in the evening.
You get that much spam?! Have you considered better spam filtering? Of
the literally hundreds of spams sent to my email addresses each day,
typically no more than 1 or 2 (and often none) will make it past my spam
filters. (I could make it even more effective except that I'm not
willing to accept false positives.)
>Other than text messaging, I'm surprised I'm not seeing more WAP usage
>from others.
WAP uptake has been slow due to complexity, poor performance, limited
content, and high cost.
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| Curtis R Anderson 2007-01-28, 10:33 pm |
| John Navas wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:45:01 GMT, Curtis R Anderson <gleepy@gleepy.net>
> wrote in <xGUsh.9790$gS1.8509@trndny01>:
>
>
> You get that much spam?! Have you considered better spam filtering? Of
> the literally hundreds of spams sent to my email addresses each day,
> typically no more than 1 or 2 (and often none) will make it past my spam
> filters. (I could make it even more effective except that I'm not
> willing to accept false positives.)
In my case, I have to set up my own spam filters with this (as in the
email address you see) provider. They encourage users to set up their
own procmail rules for filtering.
I tend to leave that alone just in case of a false positive.
>
>
> WAP uptake has been slow due to complexity, poor performance, limited
> content, and high cost.
>
I definitely see the limited content. Not to mention it chews up the
RAZR battery in a hurry.
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| John Navas 2007-01-29, 10:33 pm |
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 02:10:27 GMT, Curtis R Anderson <gleepy@gleepy.net>
wrote in <nIcvh.3526$yB5.1238@trndny03>:
>John Navas wrote:
>
>In my case, I have to set up my own spam filters with this (as in the
>email address you see) provider. They encourage users to set up their
>own procmail rules for filtering.
>
>I tend to leave that alone just in case of a false positive.
Take a hard look at naive Bayesian classifiers (e.g., POPFile
<http://popfile.sourceforge.net> ), which do a remarkably accurate job of
spam classification (better than 99.5% in my case) once they have been
trained on a couple hundred messages or so.
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