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TREO 650 Unlocking?
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| Steevo@my-deja.com 2007-04-22, 12:33 pm |
| This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
mostly unlocking services.
How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
alternate browser like Opera Mini.
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| Thurman wrote:
> "John Navas" < spamfilter1@navasgro
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> news:hgbn23h6svmjb0n
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> Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused.
Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band
phone.
My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving
from Cingular to T-Mobile, but I was able to walk her through it using
her IMEI.
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| John Navas 2007-04-22, 10:33 pm |
| On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:46:35 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 462c1e12$0$27218$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Thurman wrote:
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>Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
>you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
>prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band
>phone.
All it actually takes normally is an account in good standing.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
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| Todd Allcock 2007-04-23, 4:33 am |
| At 22 Apr 2007 19:46:35 -0700 SMS wrote:
> Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if
> you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy
> prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad
> band phone.
Canada and Mexico use 850 and/or 1900, so any Cingular phone can
theoretically be used outside the US.
> My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving
> from Cingular to T-Mobile...
I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
carriers... ;-)
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| PDA Man 2007-04-23, 4:33 am |
| You will need to get the phone SIM Unlocked to use a foreign SIM. Cingular
will give you the code if you have a Valid Acct. Lately they have asked for
proof of purchase.
I also HIGHLY recommend that you look at this thread. I did this and was a
very smart move. Makes you end up with a Plain Unbranded TREO 650 GSM. Frees
up memory also. Read it over, read it again, and then read it again. If you
read it and follow instructions it is a breeze. But if you do not, you may
get a brick. THIS DOES NOT UNLOCK YOUR PHONE
http://discussion.treocentral.com/s...ead.php?t=87669
"Steevo@my-deja.com" <steevo@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
> mostly unlocking services.
>
> How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>
> Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
> T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
>
> Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
>
> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
> alternate browser like Opera Mini.
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| Todd Allcock wrote:
> I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching
> carriers... ;-)
Duh!
They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
north American phones is really not in their interest.
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| John Navas 2007-04-23, 12:33 pm |
| On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:42:19 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 462ce1ef$0$27250$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd Allcock wrote:
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>Duh!
Actually makes no difference.
>They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
>north American phones is really not in their interest.
AT&T/Cingular will unlock any phone it has sold for an account in good
standing.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| Todd Allcock 2007-04-23, 3:33 pm |
| At 23 Apr 2007 09:42:19 -0700 SMS wrote:
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> Duh!
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> They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking
north American phones is really not in their interest.
Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
international rates.
Anyway, compared to (the old) AT&T's no unlocking for any reason ever
policy, Cingular is rather generous.
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| Todd Allcock wrote:
> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost
> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada,
> or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their
> international rates.
They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
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| John Navas 2007-04-23, 3:33 pm |
| On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 462d0b20$0$27162$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Todd Allcock wrote:
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>They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
>about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
"They" (it) isn't worried about any SIM anywhere.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| Todd Allcock 2007-04-23, 10:33 pm |
| At 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700 SMS wrote:
> They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried
> about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S.
Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for
them?" Arguably I'm far more likely to take a higher-end Cingular phone
to T-Mo than an 850/1900-only phone that T-Mo would give me for free at
signup anyway.
Although I'm notplanning to leave T-Mo anytime soon, you can be darn sure
I had them give me the unlock code for my $250 MDA PPC phone and my
Symbian Nokia 3650 as soon as I\was ellugible. I've never bothered
requesting the codes for my crummy Nokia 6030s however.
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| Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 23 Apr 2007 12:38:03 -0700 SMS wrote:
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> Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for
> them?"
I agree, but in their view the person asking for unlocking of a
quad-band at least has a legitimate reason for the request that doesn't
involve leaving Cingular for another carrier. A person asking for
unlocking of a dual band phone probably isn't planning to use a prepaid
SIM in Canada, Mexico, or any other part of North America that uses
850/1900, they're doing it to take the phone with them to another
carrier. Since even parts of North America use 900/1800 MHz, a quad band
phone is probably a good idea these days.
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| sandstones 2007-04-26, 10:33 pm |
| I unlocked a Treo 650 using a service in the UK for about $20. Bought
it online, got a key via email, downloaded unlocking SW and it was
painless.
No need to change anything on the phone - buy the $35 internet package
from t-mob and everything just worked.
I did need to modify my ROM for > 1GB Sim cards and then also took out
a lot of Cingular junk to get about 1MB of memory back, but thats
definitely optional.
SS
On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:49:31 -0700, "Steevo@my-deja.com"
<steevo@my-deja.com> wrote:
>This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up
>mostly unlocking services.
>
>How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile?
>
>Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with
>T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net?
>
>Or do I just need to change gateway, etc?
>
>I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going
>to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an
>alternate browser like Opera Mini.
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