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Author Re: Newsgroups and "Charters"
SMS

2007-07-17, 10:33 am

Tinman wrote:

<snip>

> Now *that's* funny! But he gets better:
> "Voicestream would now seem to be set for the long haul, and I think Nextel
> is a reasonably good bet. Regardless, Cingular is in a different
> class."
>
> Trust me, you can't make this shit up. Google it.


A year ago I wrote:

"It's as if he's terrified that when (and if) the Cingular name is
dropped, that Usenet readers and posters will migrate to the old
alt.cellular.attws, a group that doesn't have a charter written by him.
So he's desperately trying to extend the alt.cellular.cingular charter
onto alt.cellular.attws (at least that's the only explanation anyone's
come up with for why he's posting a charter into a group that it doesn't
apply to)."

Now the migration is happening, and he's increased his spamming.


[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
non-spam posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name has gone
away, and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding
AT&T's Wireless Service.]
John Navas

2007-07-17, 10:33 am

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:51:05 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 469cd729$0$27173$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>Tinman wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>
>A year ago I wrote:
>
>"It's as if he's terrified that when (and if) the Cingular name is
>dropped, that Usenet readers and posters will migrate to the old
>alt.cellular.attws, a group that doesn't have a charter written by him.
>So he's desperately trying to extend the alt.cellular.cingular charter
>onto alt.cellular.attws (at least that's the only explanation anyone's
>come up with for why he's posting a charter into a group that it doesn't
>apply to)."
>
>Now the migration is happening, and he's increased his spamming.


Wrong on both counts.

What's increasing is your attempts to disrupt these newsgroups and to
run down AT&T/Cingular, increasingly desperate as more and more of your
forecasts are shown to be nonsense.

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>
SMS

2007-07-17, 12:33 pm

Scott wrote:

> Anybody else notice that Navas sounds much more desperate than usual in his
> posts? The posts have certainly taken on a different tone and sound much
> more juvenile than usual.


I think that now that the migration is actually occurring, he's trying
to figure out what to do about it. If he'd gone and created an
"alt.cellular.att" group last year, it might have had some chance of
becoming viable. But look at alt.cellular.t-mobile. While it's carried
by most Usenet servers, and it's now more popular than the old
Voicestream group that it replaced, it's still not on Google Groups,
which is widely used. I don't understand why Google Groups won't add it.

Remember how Navas was so desperately against alt.cellular.t-mobile? It
was because he didn't like the idea of a company name change resulting
in a new group, because in this case he knew the "new" group would
actually be an existing group, one that he didn't write the charter for.

In any case, you only encourage him by responding to him. Remember the
adage, "The problem with arguing with a crazy person is that onlookers
will have trouble telling which is the nut."

Even Google Groups now has kill files. Use them sparingly, but wisely.


[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
non-spam posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name has gone
away, and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding
AT&T's Wireless Service.]
John Navas

2007-07-17, 12:33 pm

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:16:24 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 469ceb28$0$27210$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:

>Scott wrote:
>
>
>I think that now that the migration is actually occurring, he's trying
>to figure out what to do about it. ...


How silly. I couldn't care less.

>Remember how Navas was so desperately against alt.cellular.t-mobile?


How bogus. I couldn't have cared less.

>In any case, you only encourage him by responding to him. Remember the
>adage, "The problem with arguing with a crazy person is that onlookers
>will have trouble telling which is the nut."


"A little learning is a dangerous thing." [Alexander Pope]
"It is better to sit in silence and appear ignorant,
than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." [Mark Twain]

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Best regards,
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"Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive,
difficult to redirect, awe inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind
boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." --Gene Spafford
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