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| Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic
question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones exceeds
mine. In addition to the standard functions, I want a phone that includes
these features: flip phone, GSM, quad band, Bluetooth, reasonably good
camera, accepts miniSD (not critical), good sound quality. I'm not
interested in games or music. I have been looking at the LG CU500, Nokia
6102i, Cingular Sync by Samsung (a707), Motorola RAZR V3, and Motorola V365.
Any observations or recommendation would be most appreciated.
HH
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| John Navas 2006-12-05, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:18:57 -0800, "HH" <hhhague@comcast.net> wrote in
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>Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic
>question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones exceeds
>mine. In addition to the standard functions, I want a phone that includes
>these features: flip phone, GSM, quad band, Bluetooth, reasonably good
>camera, accepts miniSD (not critical), good sound quality. I'm not
>interested in games or music. I have been looking at the LG CU500, Nokia
>6102i, Cingular Sync by Samsung (a707), Motorola RAZR V3, and Motorola V365.
>Any observations or recommendation would be most appreciated.
Motorola V365
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| rjdriver 2006-12-07, 10:33 pm |
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"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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> On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:18:57 -0800, "HH" <hhhague@comcast.net> wrote in
> < Bo2dnTEon5DykevYnZ2d
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> Motorola V365
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> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
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V365 is tri band - not quad. But I also recommend it.
Bob
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| John Navas 2006-12-07, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 19:32:33 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM@cox.net>
wrote in <so2eh.112438$2t1.24877@newsfe18.lga>:
>"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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>V365 is tri band - not quad. But I also recommend it.
V365 is quad band.
<http://business.cingular.com/busine...ices/all-phones>
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"Peter Headland" <PHeadland@excite.com> wrote in message
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> John Navas wrote:
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> Not what it says here -
> http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/...ficati
on
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> But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making?
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> Peter Headland
I'm the original poster. I really don't understand the difference between
tri-band and quad band. I want to use the phone in Europe and Asia. Would I
be shorting myself somehow if I went with a tri-band phone? Would tri-band
be as useable in those regions as quad-band? I'm lost/
HH
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| John Navas 2006-12-07, 10:33 pm |
| On 7 Dec 2006 17:31:51 -0800, "Peter Headland" <PHeadland@excite.com>
wrote in <1165541511.358679.100740@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:
>John Navas wrote:
>
>Not what it says here -
>http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/...ficati
on
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>But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making?
Maybe Cingular doesn't know what they are buying? ;)
Motorola made both tri-band and quad-band V360 models.
I'd be willing to bet the same is true of the V365.
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| John Navas 2006-12-07, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 19:11:04 -0800, "HH" <hhhague@comcast.net> wrote in
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>"Peter Headland" <PHeadland@excite.com> wrote in message
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>I'm the original poster. I really don't understand the difference between
>tri-band and quad band. I want to use the phone in Europe and Asia. Would I
>be shorting myself somehow if I went with a tri-band phone? Would tri-band
>be as useable in those regions as quad-band? I'm lost/
US bands: 850 and 1900
Non-US bands: 900 and 1800
Quad-band: 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 (good worldwide)
Tri-band: 850, 1800, and 1900 (good for US)
or: 900, 1800, and 1900 (good for non-US)
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| rjdriver 2006-12-07, 10:33 pm |
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"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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> On 7 Dec 2006 17:31:51 -0800, "Peter Headland" <PHeadland@excite.com>
> wrote in <1165541511.358679.100740@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>:
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> Maybe Cingular doesn't know what they are buying? ;)
> Motorola made both tri-band and quad-band V360 models.
> I'd be willing to bet the same is true of the V365.
>
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> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
From what I understand, V365s sold in the US will have 850,1800, and
1900. Those sold in Europe or Asia it will have 900, 1800, and 1900.
Offering a quad band would have been much simpler for everybody and avoided
this confusion, but it seems the phone offers 3 bands that vary by location.
Bob
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| John Navas 2006-12-07, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 22:56:44 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdriversNOSPAM@cox.net>
wrote in <0o5eh.3769$a14.3435@newsfe24.lga>:
>"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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> From what I understand, V365s sold in the US will have 850,1800, and
>1900. Those sold in Europe or Asia it will have 900, 1800, and 1900.
>Offering a quad band would have been much simpler for everybody and avoided
>this confusion, but it seems the phone offers 3 bands that vary by location.
Check the Cingular link I posted. It clearly says QUAD band.
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| Peter Headland wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
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> Not what it says here -
> http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/...ficati
on
>
> But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making?
And here too: "http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=969"
It's a good phone for domestic use, be that domestic use in Europe and
Asia (where it is 900/1800/1900) or in North America (where it is
850/1800/1900). But it's not a good world phone because in each case it
lacks the most popular GSM frequency for non-domestic use. This type of
phone is the older technology, from before the U.S. had 800 (or 850
MHz), and they couldn't offer both 850 and 900 MHz with the chipset they
used.
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| John Navas 2006-12-08, 4:33 am |
| On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:42:29 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 4578ed38$0$82548$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Peter Headland wrote:
>
>And here too: "http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=969"
>
>It's a good phone for domestic use, be that domestic use in Europe and
>Asia (where it is 900/1800/1900) or in North America (where it is
>850/1800/1900). But it's not a good world phone because in each case it
>lacks the most popular GSM frequency for non-domestic use. This type of
>phone is the older technology, from before the U.S. had 800 (or 850
>MHz), and they couldn't offer both 850 and 900 MHz with the chipset they
>used.
Open mouth. Insert foot.
The Cingular link I posted clearly states QUAD band.
Motorola made both tri-band and quad-band V360 models,
even though its website only showed the tri-band model.
This is marketing and microcosting, not technology.
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| rjdriver 2006-12-08, 7:33 am |
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"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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> On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:42:29 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote in < 4578ed38$0$82548$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>
>
> Open mouth. Insert foot.
> The Cingular link I posted clearly states QUAD band.
> Motorola made both tri-band and quad-band V360 models,
> even though its website only showed the tri-band model.
> This is marketing and microcosting, not technology.
Here's a Cingular link that clearly says TRI, John:
http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-...q_sku=sku200002
And one from Motorola, also:
http://motorola.digitalriver.com/DR...ductID=50457900
Perhaps you can give Cingular a call and straighten out what appears to be
conflicting information at their site.
Bob
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"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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> On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:18:57 -0800, "HH" <hhhague@comcast.net> wrote in
> < Bo2dnTEon5DykevYnZ2d
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> Motorola V365
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
Do I read this discussion to mean that, to be sure that I have the best
phone for use both in the US and abroad, I should stick with a quad band
phone and not risk a tri band? If so, what about the LG CU500 or Cingular
Sync by Samsung (a707)?
HH
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| John Navas 2006-12-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:10:57 -0800, "HH" <hhhague@comcast.net> wrote in
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>"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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>Do I read this discussion to mean that, to be sure that I have the best
>phone for use both in the US and abroad, I should stick with a quad band
>phone and not risk a tri band?
Yes.
>If so, what about the LG CU500 or Cingular
>Sync by Samsung (a707)?
I would instead recommend a Motorola RAZR from Cingular, or an unlocked
quad-band V360 from a 3rd party (e.g., on eBay).
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| HH wrote:
> "John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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> Do I read this discussion to mean that, to be sure that I have the best
> phone for use both in the US and abroad, I should stick with a quad band
> phone and not risk a tri band? If so, what about the LG CU500 or Cingular
> Sync by Samsung (a707)?
Definitely get a quad-band phone. The V365 is not quad band.
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| rjdriver wrote:
> Perhaps you can give Cingular a call and straighten out what appears to be
> conflicting information at their site.
There is (or was) a V360 Quad Band, as well as a V360 Tri-Band.
Maybe the information on Cingular's web site, and/or PhoneScoop is
wrong. It makes no sense that they would make a tri-band phone. I saw a
reseller that was stating that it was quad band.
The buyer should be very careful that if he goes with the V365 that he
ends up with a quad band, if they exist.
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| John Navas 2006-12-22, 10:33 pm |
| On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:32:02 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 4579f5fc$0$82567$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>HH wrote:
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>Definitely get a quad-band phone. The V365 is not quad band.
<http://business.cingular.com/busine...equestid=764030>
Motorola V365
The V365 is the first Motorola Push to Talk phone offered by
Cingular. In addition to Push to Talk, the V365 also offers QUAD BAND
coverage, Bluetooth, EDGE, a VGA camera, video capture & playback and
more! [emphasis added]
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| rjdriver 2006-12-26, 10:33 pm |
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"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
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> On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:32:02 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote in < 4579f5fc$0$82567$742
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> <http://business.cingular.com/busine...equestid=764030>
>
> Motorola V365
> The V365 is the first Motorola Push to Talk phone offered by
> Cingular. In addition to Push to Talk, the V365 also offers QUAD BAND
> coverage, Bluetooth, EDGE, a VGA camera, video capture & playback and
> more! [emphasis added]
>
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> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
On my V365 purchased in the US in November this year:
MENU / SETTINGS / PHONE STATUS / OTHER INFORMATION / TECHNOLOGY:
GSM: 850/1900-1800.
The information at the cingular site is conflicting. John's link to the
business section clearly says QUAD, yet other cingular links (see below)
say TRI. And respected mobile phone review sites are saying TRI also.
http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-...q_sku=sku200002
(Click on Specs)
The phone may be capable of 4 bands at one time, but it appears that
Motorola is setting up the phone with only three at a time, and using the
bands needed for the region of the world in which it is sold.
North America: 850 1800 1900. Europe and Asia: 900 1800 1900. I wonder if
some enterprising hacker will find a way to unlock the 4th band, making the
V365 a true world travel phone.
Bob
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| Peter Headland 2006-12-26, 10:33 pm |
| Motorola KRZR, but you'll have to wait a week or two for Cingular to
start offering them, or buy an import.
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Peter Headland
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