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PISSED Off About Cingular Text Messaging Prices!!!
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| Hi All.
I don't know how you all feel, but I'm really pissed about Cingular
having TERRIBLE offers regarding text messaging!! WHY??? I have one
friend with Sprint who pays $5 per month for unlimited texting and
another with Verizon who pays the same. I pay $10 per line for only
1000 text messages (which we know can easily be surpassed in one
month)! The next stupid offer Cingular has is $20 per line for only
2500 text messages. They don't even offer unlimited texting which
they'd probably charge an arm and a leg for if they did have it!
Does text messaging use some kind of resources that costs Cingular tons
of money?? Why do they BLEED people?
I'm done ranting... Thanks for listening.
Me
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| John Navas 2006-02-17, 5:48 pm |
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In <1140201078.800731.44030@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> on 17 Feb 2006
10:31:18 -0800, "Me" <nobody9@myself.com> wrote:
>I don't know how you all feel, but I'm really pissed about Cingular
>having TERRIBLE offers regarding text messaging!! WHY??? I have one
>friend with Sprint who pays $5 per month for unlimited texting and
>another with Verizon who pays the same. I pay $10 per line for only
>1000 text messages (which we know can easily be surpassed in one
>month)!
I have 1500 messages available, and I've never used more than 150 of them.
>The next stupid offer Cingular has is $20 per line for only
>2500 text messages.
MEdia Works is $20/month (in my area at least), with 1000 text messages and
*unlimited* multimedia messages.
>They don't even offer unlimited texting which
>they'd probably charge an arm and a leg for if they did have it!
So switch to Sprint. Seriously.
>Does text messaging use some kind of resources that costs Cingular tons
>of money?? Why do they BLEED people?
Cingular is in business to make money. You are free to pick the best carrier
for your needs. That's how the market works, any why cellular is such a
bargain.
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| Thanks for the reply John.
I'm stuck in my contract for another year and a half, so Cingular wins
either way, whether I leave or stay! Cingular is a large enough
company that I would think has the resources to take care of and keep
it's customers. Why such greed. Isn't good customer service all part of
the game to becoming the biggest and the best?
Thanks again,
Me
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| John Navas 2006-02-17, 5:48 pm |
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In <1140204809.331384.78040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> on 17 Feb 2006
11:33:29 -0800, "Me" <nobody9@myself.com> wrote:
>I'm stuck in my contract for another year and a half, so Cingular wins
>either way, whether I leave or stay!
Why didn't you check this out before you signed up?
>Cingular is a large enough
>company that I would think has the resources to take care of and keep
>it's customers. Why such greed.
How is it "greed"? Cingular is free to charge what it considers a fair price,
and customers are free to look for better deals elsewhere. How is Cingular at
fault for your choice?
>Isn't good customer service all part of
>the game to becoming the biggest and the best?
Of course. But making money is also part of the game. Giving away the store
is part of why ATTWS is no longer independent.
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| It's not that I didn't check it out before I got text messaging for the
first time, it's that I was already locked into a contract and I needed
texting.
It's not a "fair" price when you look at what other carriers are
charging. There's a difference between "giving away the store" and
"charging fair prices." And yes, it is greed. Capitalism at it's best!
Worshipping The Almighty Dollar! Sounds like you work for Cingular...
Hmmmm? LOL!
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| John Navas 2006-02-17, 5:48 pm |
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In <1140206656.714543.86190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> on 17 Feb 2006
12:04:16 -0800, "Me" <nobody9@myself.com> wrote:
>It's not that I didn't check it out before I got text messaging for the
>first time, it's that I was already locked into a contract and I needed
>texting.
In other words, you didn't do a good job of anticipating your needs when you
agreed to a two-year contract. How is that Cingular's fault?
>It's not a "fair" price when you look at what other carriers are
>charging.
Of course it's fair. Just because it might not be as good a deal doesn't make
it "unfair". Cingular must have had other advantages or you wouldn't have
signed up. Are other carriers "unfair" in those areas?
>There's a difference between "giving away the store" and
>"charging fair prices." And yes, it is greed.
No it's not.
>Capitalism at it's best!
>Worshipping The Almighty Dollar! Sounds like you work for Cingular...
>Hmmmm? LOL!
Nope. Just a satisfied paying customer that did his homework *before* he
signed up.
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| I've been with Cingular for over SIX years with no problems and I've
been very satisfied. I needed text messaging only recently! It's only
my beef with text messaging... that's IT!
And yes, it is GREED!
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| Furthermore, because I like Cingular, I don't want to have to switch...
therefore, it would be nice if they could offer a very FAIR price on
text messaging just like other carriers do... that's all!
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| Anonymous 2006-02-17, 5:48 pm |
| On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:12:51 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>MEdia Works is $20/month (in my area at least), with 1000 text messages and
>*unlimited* multimedia messages.
Can you "make" a text message (SMS) into a MMS so as to have,
essentially, unlimited SMS? If so, how?
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| John Navas 2006-02-17, 5:48 pm |
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In < sedcv11oujl9e9d5a5gg
v9ab1qfe5b8r25@4ax.com> on Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:46:32
-0800, Anonymous <anonymous@example.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:12:51 GMT, John Navas
>< spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
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>Can you "make" a text message (SMS) into a MMS so as to have,
>essentially, unlimited SMS? If so, how?
I can send MMS (multimedia messages) directly from my cell phone (Motorola
V551). That of course only works when sending to a recipient that can handle
MMS, and do so affordably -- MMS typically costs more than SMS.
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| I don't fully understand all of that, but you're the second person
today to mention that. I'm going to investigate this further. Thanks! :)
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| Your Name Here 2006-02-18, 2:48 am |
| Drop your plan down to the cheapest possible, sign up with Sprint or
Horizion, and try it for 15 days, Forward your Cingulard phone to the
new phone and see if it works for you?
I went through the same BULLSHIT with Nextel, and I said F this,
selling the equip on ebay and the way its going I will make more than
enough to have some extra and pay them there termination fee.
I understand your venting about the whole billing and just a bunch of
people on the other end of the line saying yes sir, but hey either try
what I suggested above, or sell your phones on ebay and eat some loss
and move on to the other companys.
I live in ALbany NY and VERIZON thinks there the dominant, wrong,
sprint sales have almost doubled in this area, and T Mobile also.
Cingulard is too big now and way too greedy, there sales reps, 95% dont
give a rats XXX if you buy , move, stay or what ever, soon you walk out
the door, its money in there pocket. But if you return the phones like
I did , the D357 PTT that are shit phones and the service is horrible,
(in my area) than they give you dirty looks especially when you question
the manager on why the phones are poor quality and so on.
In march there are new PTT phones coming out, but the service is NOT
IMHO worth the extra MONEY.
When you call CINGULARD why do you get the message that there
experiencing a high call volume rate? Cause of people being pissed off
and tired of getting jerked off and LIES.
Ask John Navass he works and or is affiliated with Cingular.
Me wrote:
> It's not that I didn't check it out before I got text messaging for the
> first time, it's that I was already locked into a contract and I needed
> texting.
>
> It's not a "fair" price when you look at what other carriers are
> charging. There's a difference between "giving away the store" and
> "charging fair prices." And yes, it is greed. Capitalism at it's best!
> Worshipping The Almighty Dollar! Sounds like you work for Cingular...
> Hmmmm? LOL!
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| Bob Fry 2006-02-18, 2:48 am |
| >>>>> "Me" == Me <nobody9@myself.com> writes:
Me> for only 1000 text messages
Me> (which we know can easily be surpassed in one month)!
We do??
Jeez that's about 33 a day.
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| John Navas 2006-02-18, 2:48 am |
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In < wdadneQrcrDuBWvenZ2d
nUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganew
s.com> on Fri, 17 Feb 2006
22:45:53 -0500, Your Name Here <mbb3977@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ask John Navass he works and or is affiliated with Cingular.
Not affiliated with Cingular in any way. Sorry.
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| GomJabbar 2006-02-18, 2:48 am |
| John Navas wrote:
> In other words, you didn't do a good job of anticipating your needs when you
> agreed to a two-year contract. How is that Cingular's fault?
I consider 2-year contracts Cingular's fault. That is greediness. You
find out the service isn't working well for you, then your stuck unless
you want to pay the early termination fee. In this fast-paced world,
it's hard to know what we will need even a year from now. If you
aren't willing to sign the 2-year contract, then you have to pay
exorbitant prices for the hardware. If you want to upgrade your phone
after a year - again you have to pay through the nose. You have to
wait something like over 20 months before you can upgrade your phone at
near new subscriber prices. With T-Mobile, you can upgrade in one
year. My wife just upgraded (she has an existing account) to a new
Motorola Magenta Razor for $75 with T-Mobile. Won't see anything like
that with Cingular!
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| John Navas 2006-02-18, 5:48 am |
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In <1140241766.289075.126620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> on 17 Feb 2006
21:49:26 -0800, "GomJabbar" <dkbatson@earthlink.net> wrote:
>John Navas wrote:
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>I consider 2-year contracts Cingular's fault. That is greediness.
Hardly. If you don't like it, don't sign it. Simple.
>You
>find out the service isn't working well for you, then your stuck unless
>you want to pay the early termination fee.
You have a grace period to find that out without risk.
>In this fast-paced world,
>it's hard to know what we will need even a year from now.
Get serious.
>If you
>aren't willing to sign the 2-year contract, then you have to pay
>exorbitant prices for the hardware. If you want to upgrade your phone
>after a year - again you have to pay through the nose.
No, you either pay retail, or you buy it somewhere else. There's no right to
a cheap phone without obligation.
>You have to
>wait something like over 20 months before you can upgrade your phone at
>near new subscriber prices.
So what?
>With T-Mobile, you can upgrade in one
>year. My wife just upgraded (she has an existing account) to a new
>Motorola Magenta Razor for $75 with T-Mobile. Won't see anything like
>that with Cingular!
Then go with T-Mobile. Seriously.
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-02-18, 5:48 am |
| John Navas wrote:
> Get serious.
Good advice...use it.
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| GomJabbar 2006-02-18, 5:48 pm |
| When I signed on with Cingular, it was because I needed the data
service they offered at the time (EDGE). T-Mobile only had GPRS back
then (a year ago). But I am stuck - oh well. If I had the choice now
(without paying the early termination penalty) I would switch to
Verizon because of their more ubiquitous, superior to EDGE, data
service. Cingular's UTMS/HSDPA service is not yet available in my
area. If it did become available soon, I was told at a Cingular store
that I would have to pay retail for a UTMS/HSDPA PC card to use it. He
said my cost for that card is about $300 - which is about $200 more
than a new subscriber would have to pay. With treatment like that,
when I get out of my contract I will seriously consider switching
providers. I may even switch sooner. I could get a new EVDO card with
Verizon for $50 right now. The difference in hardware cost would pay
the difference for early cancellation of my data service. However I
would also have to cancel my voice service to get Verizon's best price.
I may have to look into this further.
I said: "You find out the service isn't working well for you, then your
stuck unless you want to pay the early termination fee." You replied:
"You have a grace period to find that out without risk." Not quite.
The risk is there, and it is real. A short grace period helps but does
not eliminate all the variables that you may encounter.
You say I have no right to a cheap phone without obligation. With
T-Mobile, that "right" comes very much sooner. Actually you are
correct in saying that I don't have the "right", but then again I never
claimed that I did - however that doesn't mean I'm not getting screwed.
And that doesn't mean that I have to like it and not complain. Enough
consumer complaints and maybe things will change.
In regards to my comment "In this fast-paced world, it's hard to know
what we will need even a year from now." you say: "Get serious." I am
not surprised by this retort, as you "always know" who butter's your
toast. A sycophant for Cingular if I ever saw one.
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| John Navas 2006-02-18, 5:48 pm |
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In <1140269298.425138.104700@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> on 18 Feb 2006
05:28:18 -0800, "GomJabbar" <dkbatson@earthlink.net> wrote:
>When I signed on with Cingular, it was because I needed the data
>service they offered at the time (EDGE). T-Mobile only had GPRS back
>then (a year ago). But I am stuck - oh well. If I had the choice now
>(without paying the early termination penalty) I would switch to
>Verizon because of their more ubiquitous, superior to EDGE, data
>service.
Verizon is EV-DO, not EDGE(EGPRS). Cingular is EDGE(EGPRS).
>Cingular's UTMS/HSDPA service is not yet available in my
>area. If it did become available soon, I was told at a Cingular store
>that I would have to pay retail for a UTMS/HSDPA PC card to use it. He
>said my cost for that card is about $300 - which is about $200 more
>than a new subscriber would have to pay. With treatment like that,
>...
Treatment like what? You already got the value of your contract from the
subsidy on your handset(s)! Why would you expect any carrier to give you
another subsidy for nothing?
>... A sycophant for Cingular if I ever saw one.
You insult me because I don't agree with you. Why am I not surprised.
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| What is so evil about making a profit?
If I were to guess you are the type of person that voted John Kerry in the
last election. You are probably a card carrying member of the ACLU. You
are scared of global warming and you want Hillary's socialized health care.
There are tons of communist countries that you can move to that may fit into
your ideals.
"Me" <nobody9@myself.com> wrote in message
news:1140206656.714543.86190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It's not that I didn't check it out before I got text messaging for the
> first time, it's that I was already locked into a contract and I needed
> texting.
>
> It's not a "fair" price when you look at what other carriers are
> charging. There's a difference between "giving away the store" and
> "charging fair prices." And yes, it is greed. Capitalism at it's best!
> Worshipping The Almighty Dollar! Sounds like you work for Cingular...
> Hmmmm? LOL!
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| John Navas 2006-02-20, 2:48 am |
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In < cef42$43f737e6$97d59
86e$9365@ALLTEL.NET> on Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:06:25
-0500, "jay" <someone@alltel.net> wrote:
>What is so evil about making a profit?
Nothing.
>If I were to guess you are the type of person that voted John Kerry in the
>last election.
Yep. No way I'd vote for the idiot that's now President. ("Be careful what
you wish for!")
>You are probably a card carrying member of the ACLU.
No, but I respect what it does.
>You
>are scared of global warming
At least you got that right!
>and you want Hillary's socialized health care.
Nope. But I don't want Dubya's help-the-rish program either.
>There are tons of communist countries that you can move to that may fit into
>your ideals.
Not my ideals. I'm a real Conservative, not a Dubya NeoCon.
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| Chris Sweeney 2006-02-20, 5:48 pm |
| Your friend with Sprint likely gets that because they are on the old if
you have Vision for $15/M you can get unlimited TXT for $5 more.
Verizon only offers unlimted TXT to other Verizon customers for the $5
to non Verizon its only 50 per month. Verizon's TXT prices are the
exact same as Cingulars and now Sprint currently charges $5 for 100, $8
for 500 and $15 for unlmited.
Me wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> I don't know how you all feel, but I'm really pissed about Cingular
> having TERRIBLE offers regarding text messaging!! WHY??? I have one
> friend with Sprint who pays $5 per month for unlimited texting and
> another with Verizon who pays the same. I pay $10 per line for only
> 1000 text messages (which we know can easily be surpassed in one
> month)! The next stupid offer Cingular has is $20 per line for only
> 2500 text messages. They don't even offer unlimited texting which
> they'd probably charge an arm and a leg for if they did have it!
>
> Does text messaging use some kind of resources that costs Cingular tons
> of money?? Why do they BLEED people?
>
> I'm done ranting... Thanks for listening.
>
> Me
>
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| Me wrote:
> Hi All.
>
> I don't know how you all feel, but I'm really pissed about Cingular
> having TERRIBLE offers regarding text messaging!! WHY??? I have one
> friend with Sprint who pays $5 per month for unlimited texting and
> another with Verizon who pays the same. I pay $10 per line for only
> 1000 text messages (which we know can easily be surpassed in one
> month)! The next stupid offer Cingular has is $20 per line for only
> 2500 text messages. They don't even offer unlimited texting which
> they'd probably charge an arm and a leg for if they did have it!
>
> Does text messaging use some kind of resources that costs Cingular tons
> of money?? Why do they BLEED people?
Because some people don't care about the cost. Personally I can't
imagine sending that many messages a month, but everyone's needs are
different. I would not even pay $5 per month for messaging. In fact I
had my carrier turn it off, because of the spam messages.
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| My message was actually intended for "Me," the original poster of the
thread.
eh, you respect what the aclu does?
I have never heard anyone ever use the word Neocon in its correct meaning.
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> In < cef42$43f737e6$97d59
86e$9365@ALLTEL.NET> on Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:06:25
> -0500, "jay" <someone@alltel.net> wrote:
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>
> Nothing.
>
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> Yep. No way I'd vote for the idiot that's now President. ("Be careful
what
> you wish for!")
>
>
> No, but I respect what it does.
>
>
> At least you got that right!
>
>
> Nope. But I don't want Dubya's help-the-rish program either.
>
into[color=darkred]
>
> Not my ideals. I'm a real Conservative, not a Dubya NeoCon.
>
>
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| John Navas 2006-02-21, 5:48 pm |
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In < 95627$43fa088a$97d59
86e$25162@ALLTEL.NET> on Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:21:09
-0500, "jay" <someone@alltel.net> wrote:
>My message was actually intended for "Me," the original poster of the
>thread.
>
>eh, you respect what the aclu does?
Yes.
>I have never heard anyone ever use the word Neocon in its correct meaning.
My meaning was consistent with the accepted definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_(United_States)
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>what
>into
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| John Navas 2006-02-21, 5:48 pm |
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In < 43f9cbb8$0$58121$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net> on Mon, 20 Feb 2006 06:01:32
-0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>Because some people don't care about the cost. Personally I can't
>imagine sending that many messages a month, but everyone's needs are
>different. I would not even pay $5 per month for messaging. In fact I
>had my carrier turn it off, because of the spam messages.
I've only gotten a few spam messages, and they stopped after I reported them
to the carrier.
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