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Anonymous

2006-03-08, 5:48 pm

<http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1626>

| Cingular's online store has been updated to include Cingular's first
| 3G handsets. The LG CU320 and Samsung ZX10 are both available for $100
| after rebate to customers in 3G enabled areas. Each handset includes
| UMTS (not HSPDA) 850/1900, 1.3 Megapixel cameras and access to
| Cingular's new video service. Both phones are also listed as Quad band
| GSM despite initial claims that the LG CU320 was triband
| (850/1800/1900). Data pricing remains the same for 3G data plans as
| for 2G. MEdia Basic is $10 per month and MEdia Works is $20.

John Navas

2006-03-08, 5:48 pm

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In < 5g7u02dn2u3i7ei1qnk8
7fv7499e0o3it4@4ax.com> on Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:11:57
-0800, Anonymous <anonymous@example.net> wrote:

><http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1626>
>
>| Cingular's online store has been updated to include Cingular's first
>| 3G handsets. The LG CU320 and Samsung ZX10 are both available for $100
>| after rebate to customers in 3G enabled areas. Each handset includes
>| UMTS (not HSPDA) 850/1900, 1.3 Megapixel cameras and access to


That should be HSDPA (not HSPDA).

>| Cingular's new video service. Both phones are also listed as Quad band
>| GSM despite initial claims that the LG CU320 was triband
>| (850/1800/1900). Data pricing remains the same for 3G data plans as
>| for 2G. MEdia Basic is $10 per month and MEdia Works is $20.


According to the Cingular release below: "Cingular Video requires a $19.99
MEdia Net Unlimited data package." No mention of MEdia Basic. (The current
MEdia Works isn't the same as MEdia Net Unlimited or the old MEdia Works
Unlimited -- it only includes 5 MB of MEdia Net data.)

More from Phone Scoop:

"Cingular also announced that the next two 3G handsets it will launch are the
Nokia 6282 and LG CU500. This indicates Nokia has upgraded the 6282 to include
WCDMA 850 and 1900 for Cingular. LG has not shown off the CU500 before and
little is known about this new handset."

Info on LG CU500:
<http://www.club-java.com/TastePhone...=LG&model=CU500>

More info from Cingular:

Watch This! Cingular Video(TM) Now Available
Wide Selection of Popular Mobile Content
Creates Personalized Video Experiences
<http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index...eases&item=1464>

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John Navas

2006-03-08, 5:48 pm

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New Cingular 3G phones compared:
<http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/co...B%5D=&id%5B%5D=>
or <http://tinyurl.com/koftg>


In <k2HPf.1040$8w2.229@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> on Wed, 08 Mar 2006
20:22:40 GMT, John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

>In < 5g7u02dn2u3i7ei1qnk8
7fv7499e0o3it4@4ax.com> on Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:11:57
>-0800, Anonymous <anonymous@example.net> wrote:
>
>
>That should be HSDPA (not HSPDA).
>
>
>According to the Cingular release below: "Cingular Video requires a $19.99
>MEdia Net Unlimited data package." No mention of MEdia Basic. (The current
>MEdia Works isn't the same as MEdia Net Unlimited or the old MEdia Works
>Unlimited -- it only includes 5 MB of MEdia Net data.)
>
>More from Phone Scoop:
>
>"Cingular also announced that the next two 3G handsets it will launch are the
>Nokia 6282 and LG CU500. This indicates Nokia has upgraded the 6282 to include
>WCDMA 850 and 1900 for Cingular. LG has not shown off the CU500 before and
>little is known about this new handset."
>
>Info on LG CU500:
><http://www.club-java.com/TastePhone...=LG&model=CU500>
>
>More info from Cingular:
>
>Watch This! Cingular Video(TM) Now Available
>Wide Selection of Popular Mobile Content
>Creates Personalized Video Experiences
><http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index...eases&item=1464>


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Q
>
Zeng

2006-03-10, 2:48 am

On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:11:57 -0800, Anonymous <anonymous@example.net>
wrote:

><http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=1626>
>
>| Cingular's online store has been updated to include Cingular's first
>| 3G handsets. The LG CU320 and Samsung ZX10 are both available for $100
>| after rebate to customers in 3G enabled areas. Each handset includes
>| UMTS (not HSPDA) 850/1900, 1.3 Megapixel cameras and access to
>| Cingular's new video service. Both phones are also listed as Quad band
>| GSM despite initial claims that the LG CU320 was triband
>| (850/1800/1900). Data pricing remains the same for 3G data plans as
>| for 2G. MEdia Basic is $10 per month and MEdia Works is $20.


regarding quad band... that's because those three you cite are all GSM
bands (the 1800 is Euro + elsewhere) while the WCDMA band licensed in
the USA is 1900 (Europe is like 2100mhz). so that's how they get
"quad band" out of it.

There's no WCDMA 850 approved in the US as far as I know. I can tell
you that Cingular's not using it.

Zeng
Zeng

2006-03-10, 2:48 am

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:47:10 -0500, Zeng <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:11:57 -0800, Anonymous <anonymous@example.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>regarding quad band... that's because those three you cite are all GSM
>bands (the 1800 is Euro + elsewhere) while the WCDMA band licensed in
>the USA is 1900 (Europe is like 2100mhz). so that's how they get
>"quad band" out of it.
>
>There's no WCDMA 850 approved in the US as far as I know. I can tell
>you that Cingular's not using it.
>
>Zeng


Figured I better mention this too: WCDMA *is* UMTS also known as 3G.
Zeng
John Navas

2006-03-16, 5:48 am

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In < na4212ddhenvr8il6m0s
jt0iu7vvf5am9b@4ax.com> on Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:47:10
-0500, Zeng <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 10:11:57 -0800, Anonymous <anonymous@example.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>regarding quad band... that's because those three you cite are all GSM
>bands (the 1800 is Euro + elsewhere) while the WCDMA band licensed in
>the USA is 1900 (Europe is like 2100mhz). so that's how they get
>"quad band" out of it.
>
>There's no WCDMA 850 approved in the US as far as I know. I can tell
>you that Cingular's not using it.


Bands aren't licensed in the USA by technology -- Cingular is free to use
WCDMA on any of its licensed spectrum.

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Q
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Zeng

2006-03-20, 2:48 am

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:35:48 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
>In < na4212ddhenvr8il6m0s
jt0iu7vvf5am9b@4ax.com> on Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:47:10
>-0500, Zeng <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>
>Bands aren't licensed in the USA by technology -- Cingular is free to use
>WCDMA on any of its licensed spectrum.


maybe you should familiarize yourself with some of the FCC's spectrum
auctions. The FCC has always been very careful in determining what
type of emissions a licensed entity can transmit--WCDMA is no
exception. Without it, we'd have the Wild West Frontier when it comes
to spectrum.
Zeng
William Ahern

2006-03-20, 5:48 am

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 01:10:12 -0500, Zeng wrote:
<snip>
> auctions. The FCC has always been very careful in determining what
> type of emissions a licensed entity can transmit--WCDMA is no
> exception. Without it, we'd have the Wild West Frontier when it comes
> to spectrum.
> Zeng


Maybe we should have the "Wild West". Aside from the economic implications
(monopolization, slow technological progress), I can imagine the FCC
trying to respond to an incident where terrorists take out huge segments
of the cellular network w/ cheap jamming equipment.

FCC Chairman: "Well, we have regulations against that kind of use,
Senator. What more can I say?".


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