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| dna0603@yahoo.com 2006-07-17, 12:33 pm |
| I was looking at data plans on the Sprint website but it doesn't
provide info about speeds etc.
What I am looking for is a replacement for my DSL at home.
I'm currently shopping for cell service and looked at Verizon and
Cingular.
The V plan says it is broadband... so I take it that it would be
decently fast. Whereas the C plan says it is a PC Card Modem... so I
would be using my phone as a modem to dial up.
Will I be using voice air-time for any connections to the Internet?
When shopping for the data plans on the Sprint site... I chose the
unlimited plan for $60 (no corporate discount allowed on this)... then
I choose a phone. So it sounds like this is similar to using the phone
as a modem as well. What about the voice plan? How would that work in
this situation?
If there is a chart with the services and features available... that
would really help.
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| Cavity Search 2006-07-18, 4:33 am |
| <dna0603@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1153155703.795020.117880@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I was looking at data plans on the Sprint website but it doesn't
> provide info about speeds etc.
>
> What I am looking for is a replacement for my DSL at home.
If you rely on a speedy, reliable internet connection, stick with DSL.
> I'm currently shopping for cell service and looked at Verizon and
> Cingular.
>
> The V plan says it is broadband... so I take it that it would be
> decently fast.
Cell phone "broadband" is marketing hype. It is NOT anything like the speed
and reliability of a DSL connection.
Remember what CS the Cynic says, "Salespersons are in charge of promises,
tech support are in charge of excuses."
Just going by the numbers, it's unlikely you'll get close to DSL speeds.
What the numbers, and the salespersons, don't tell you, is that data
services are a lower priority than voice services. If a goodly amount of
people are jabbering on their cell phones in your area, your data connection
will slow to a crawl, or stop altogether, until somebody shuts up. You'll
also have slow/shutdowns during solar flares, when your neighbor fires up
their 1.8 jiggawat welder, or whenever the Gremlin of Cell Phone Dropped
Calls pays you a visit.
> Whereas the C plan says it is a PC Card Modem... so I
> would be using my phone as a modem to dial up.
Not quite. The PC Card connects to your laptop, giving you direct internet
access to the internet. Using a phone, instead of a PC Card, allows you to
access the internet with your phone, or any computer or PDA that can
'connect' to your phone, either with a serial port, USB port, bluetooth, or
irda. Personally, I prefer the phone for this reason, although it is a bit
clumsier than a PC Card.
> Will I be using voice air-time for any connections to the Internet?
No. Charges for data access is almost always calculated by data
transferred. Cingular charges $0.01 a kilobyte. Sounds cheap, but a page
showing Google search results is about 23k, a Yahoo home page is over 100k,
and a map on Google can be over 300k. A short session, say, just to get
directions, could easily cost you $20.
> When shopping for the data plans on the Sprint site... I chose the
> unlimited plan for $60 (no corporate discount allowed on this)... then
> I choose a phone. So it sounds like this is similar to using the phone
> as a modem as well. What about the voice plan? How would that work in
> this situation?
Voice plans are generally seperate from data plans.
> If there is a chart with the services and features available... that
> would really help.
I don't know of a chart of all companies, but most have their own charts of
their services.
CS
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| John Navas 2006-08-02, 4:33 am |
| On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:02:07 -0700, "Cavity Search"
< nothingvalidforyou@t
histime.com> wrote in
< 12boqspm5o84pbb@corp
.supernews.com>:
>Cell phone "broadband" is marketing hype. It is NOT anything like the speed
>and reliability of a DSL connection.
While not as fast as typical DSL, UMTS/HSDPA and CDMA2000 EV-DO are
capable of speeds that are definitely in the broadband category.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-02, 10:33 am |
| John Navas wrote:
> While not as fast as typical DSL, UMTS/HSDPA and CDMA2000 EV-DO are
> capable of speeds that are definitely in the broadband category.
How fast is a broadband category?
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| John Navas 2006-08-02, 3:33 pm |
| On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:00:29 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote in
<1e2Ag.483$FN2.132@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>:
>John Navas wrote:
>
>How fast is a broadband category?
The definition is fuzzy, but most would probably agree that the speed of
the above services qualify as broadband. Even ISDN can be considered
broadband.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-02, 10:33 pm |
| John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:00:29 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote in
> <1e2Ag.483$FN2.132@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>:
>
>
> The definition is fuzzy, but most would probably agree that the speed of
> the above services qualify as broadband. Even ISDN can be considered
> broadband.
BZZZZZZZ......Wrong answer. Anything over 500 Kbps is legally considered
broadband. Accept the fact you have been corrected.
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| John Navas 2006-08-02, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:55:11 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote in
<Pi8Ag.1804$9T3.475@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>:
>John Navas wrote:
>
>BZZZZZZZ......Wrong answer. Anything over 500 Kbps is legally considered
>broadband.
Legally? :) What law (venue and section)?
>Accept the fact you have been corrected.
Accept the fact you've put your foot in your mouth. ;)
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-02, 10:33 pm |
| John Navas wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 20:55:11 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote in
> <Pi8Ag.1804$9T3.475@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>:
>
>
> Legally? :) What law (venue and section)?
>
Read the FCC definition on broadband www.fcc.gov
>
> Accept the fact you've put your foot in your mouth. ;)
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-02, 10:33 pm |
| DecaturTxCowboy wrote:[color=darkred
]
> John Navas wrote:
>
>
> Read the FCC definition on broadband www.fcc.gov
>
>
I stand corrected, its 200, not 500 Kbps. They define broadband as:
The FCC defines broadband service as data transmission speeds exceeding
200 kilobits per second (Kbps), or 200000 bits per second.
www.fcc.gov/cgb/broadband.html
If I apply for a grant to provide rural broadband and fail to meet that
speed, they can legally sue me to recover the money.
ISDN is only 128 Kbps.
That was too easy to sucker punch you...
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| John Navas 2006-08-02, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 23:02:09 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote in
<R9aAg.735$1f6.165@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>:
>John Navas wrote:
[color=darkred]
>Read the FCC definition on broadband www.fcc.gov
<http://www.fcc.gov/Speeches/Powell/2001/spmkp110.html>
1. What is broadband?
Oddly enough a clear, uniformly accepted definition evades us. It is
accepted that whatever broadband is, it is fast (the Commission has
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defined it as 200kbs).
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| Steve 2006-08-02, 10:33 pm |
| DecaturTxCowboy wrote:
> Read the FCC definition on broadband www.fcc.gov
I looked and searched and didn't find it. Could you point to where on
the FCC site this is specified?
Steve
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-03, 10:33 am |
| Steve wrote:
> DecaturTxCowboy wrote:
>
>
> I looked and searched and didn't find it. Could you point to where on
> the FCC site this is specified?
>
> Steve
www.fcc.gov/cgb/broadband.html
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