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Frustrated with iTunes for iPhone; is there an alternative to iTunes?
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| Totally frustrated with the restrictions associated with iTunes and
the iPhone. Especially Jobs requiring the purchase of Apple
ringtones; Guess what Steve -- it will be a cold day in Hell before I
purchase ringtones from Apple.
At this point I m countigte months until my contract expires and I can
dump this crap and get a real phone.
In the meantime are there any real alternatives to iTunes? How has
Apple managed to hide the iPhone directory structure from Windows?
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| In article < 3a9dh3d6sqmc41lab9mt
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Lori <ipema@teeitup.com> wrote:
> Totally frustrated with the restrictions associated with iTunes and
> the iPhone. Especially Jobs requiring the purchase of Apple
> ringtones; Guess what Steve -- it will be a cold day in Hell before I
> purchase ringtones from Apple.
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> At this point I m countigte months until my contract expires and I can
> dump this crap and get a real phone.
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> In the meantime are there any real alternatives to iTunes? How has
> Apple managed to hide the iPhone directory structure from Windows?
Who besides teens buy ringtones?
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| Todd Allcock 2007-10-17, 10:33 pm |
| At 18 Oct 2007 00:20:16 +0000 Lori wrote:
> At this point I m countigte months until my contract expires and I can
> dump this crap and get a real phone.
Do it now, then. Because iPhone customers paid an unsubsidized price for
their iPhone, they generally qualify for "upgrade pricing" on any AT&T
phone, even though they're already under contract.
No offense, but is the ability to make your own ringtones for free all
that distinguishes a "real phone" from "crap" in your mind? And if so,
why did you buy an iPhone in the first place? It's inability to add
ringtones was pretty well publicized from the start.
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| On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:51:54 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
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>Who besides teens buy ringtones?
Not certain what your point is but personally I use the ringtone to
distingush who is calling and especially since I get all too many
wrong calls because the telco has switched area codes in my region.
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| On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:52:23 -0600, Todd Allcock
< elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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>No offense, but is the ability to make your own ringtones for free all
>that distinguishes a "real phone" from "crap" in your mind? And if so,
>why did you buy an iPhone in the first place? It's inability to add
>ringtones was pretty well publicized from the start.
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No offense taken and you have raised points that I have argued within
myself about the iPhone.
The negatives for the iPhone in my experience have been, the volume
level for the ringer is too low and the phone reception is terrible. I
can sit with a Razr using AT&T and have service while the iPhone show
"No Service".
There are however features for which Apple should be applauled and
some have. What I am most impressed with is the battery life.
But, getting back to my primary concer is iTunes and finding a
replacement for it. Any viable options?
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| Kevin Weaver 2007-10-18, 4:33 am |
| Winamp, Songbird to name a few.
"Lori" <ipema@teeitup.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:52:23 -0600, Todd Allcock
> < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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> No offense taken and you have raised points that I have argued within
> myself about the iPhone.
>
> The negatives for the iPhone in my experience have been, the volume
> level for the ringer is too low and the phone reception is terrible. I
> can sit with a Razr using AT&T and have service while the iPhone show
> "No Service".
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> There are however features for which Apple should be applauled and
> some have. What I am most impressed with is the battery life.
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> But, getting back to my primary concer is iTunes and finding a
> replacement for it. Any viable options?
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| Todd Allcock 2007-10-18, 4:33 am |
| At 17 Oct 2007 23:22:47 -0500 Lori wrote:
> But, getting back to my primary concer is iTunes and finding a
> replacement for it. Any viable options?
I guess that depends on what you're trying to accomplish. I don't own an
iPhone, but I have an iPod Nano and don't use iTunes- the Nano appears as
a drive letter and I drag and drop my music files on it. I assume that's
possible with an iPhone, but doesn't help with contacts and calandar items.
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| On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:38:26 -0600, Todd Allcock
< elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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>I guess that depends on what you're trying to accomplish. I don't own an
>iPhone, but I have an iPod Nano and don't use iTunes- the Nano appears as
>a drive letter and I drag and drop my music files on it. I assume that's
>possible with an iPhone, but doesn't help with contacts and calandar items.
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I agree with you. I could care less about the contact and calander
items. But... Apple has successfully hidden the iPhone when connected
to the computer. Not in Explorer and not in Network.
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| Tinman 2007-10-18, 10:33 am |
| Lori wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:38:26 -0600, Todd Allcock
> < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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> I agree with you. I could care less about the contact and calander
> items. But... Apple has successfully hidden the iPhone when connected
> to the computer. Not in Explorer and not in Network.
Successfully for some, not all. My iPhone has been jailbroken since 1.0--and
I am now running 1.1.1 (jailbroken).
"Jailbreak," BTW essentially means breaking out of the sandbox that Apple
placed around the file system.
Ergo I can see, edit, change, copy, etc., any file on the iPhone (and add
apps, run scripts, set up cron jobs, etc.).
Does this mean it's now trivial to add music without iTunes? No, definitely
not. I'm not going to get into it here, but suffice to say that songs are
not played directly on the iPhone. They play contingent upon entries in a
database that is created/managed by iTunes. This database is not just a list
of songs, it contains links to album art, play counts, etc. Some of this
data is then sent back to iTunes (e.g., favorite tracks).
Finally, you can add ringtones to even non-jailbroken 1.1.1 iPhones using
the latest version of iToner (Mac) or this method (PC):
"http://modmyiphone.com/wiki/index.php/ Free_Custom_Ringtone
s_on_iPhone_1.1.1"
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Mike
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-10-18, 12:33 pm |
| On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:13:18 -0500, Lori <ipema@teeitup.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:38:26 -0600, Todd Allcock
>< elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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>I agree with you. I could care less about the contact and calander
>items. But... Apple has successfully hidden the iPhone when connected
>to the computer. Not in Explorer and not in Network.
I use a ATT Sony-Ericcson Walkman phone. Stuck a 4 Gig M2 Ram card in
it. Built in memory is one drive letter, ram card another. But iPhone
wont show up as a disk drive thereby preventing drag and drop.
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=367514
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