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| John Navas 2007-11-15, 4:33 am |
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The virtual Qwerty keyboard on Apple's iPhone allows users to enter
text as quickly as they would on another handset's physical keyboard,
but they'll make rather more mistakes in the process.
That's the conclusion drawn by a Chicago usability consultancy after
watching 60 punters tap away on a variety of handsets. Twenty of them
used iPhones, another 20 used full-size BlackBerries, and 20 more
were given Samsung E300 numeric pad-only phones to try.
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| On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:03:50 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
><http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/1...ckberry
/>
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> The virtual Qwerty keyboard on Apple's iPhone allows users to enter
> text as quickly as they would on another handset's physical keyboard,
> but they'll make rather more mistakes in the process.
>
> That's the conclusion drawn by a Chicago usability consultancy after
> watching 60 punters tap away on a variety of handsets. Twenty of them
> used iPhones, another 20 used full-size BlackBerries, and 20 more
> were given Samsung E300 numeric pad-only phones to try.
>
Totally worthless study. Folks with an iPhone are not at the level of
someone just given an iPhone for other than their first day with an
iPhone. Then they quickly learn to efficiently use the iPhone virtual
keyboard.
Now test folks that have had an iPhone for at least 2 weeks
and see what results you get.
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| George Kerby 2007-11-15, 10:33 am |
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On 11/15/07 4:33 AM, in article 108oj35ckr5f33i68je2
akdcl51vc1bhvg@4ax.com,
"Ron" <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:03:50 GMT, John Navas
> < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
> Totally worthless study. Folks with an iPhone are not at the level of
> someone just given an iPhone for other than their first day with an
> iPhone. Then they quickly learn to efficiently use the iPhone virtual
> keyboard.
>
> Now test folks that have had an iPhone for at least 2 weeks
> and see what results you get.
Not to Navas. He just lives for anything to bash. Except, of course,
anything that Moto produces. He is an idiot. I didn't believe it at first,
but his blathering posts in here and the photography groups prove it to be
so.
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| John Navas 2007-11-15, 12:33 pm |
| On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:23:17 -0600, George Kerby
< ghost_topper@hotmail
.com> wrote in
<C361CE95. 42227%ghost_topper@h
otmail.com>:
>[SNIP ad hominem]
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whereas those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'
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| In article < qmknj3to8lj4l5t854nr
gh7khrcdlsa20o@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/1...ckberry
/>
>
> The virtual Qwerty keyboard on Apple's iPhone allows users to enter
> text as quickly as they would on another handset's physical keyboard,
> but they'll make rather more mistakes in the process.
>
> That's the conclusion drawn by a Chicago usability consultancy after
> watching 60 punters tap away on a variety of handsets. Twenty of them
> used iPhones, another 20 used full-size BlackBerries, and 20 more
> were given Samsung E300 numeric pad-only phones to try.
>
> [MORE]
My iPhone keyboard is much easier to use and more accurate than my
Treo's.
Given anyone a differently configured keyword that functions slightly
differently will always take a little adjustment. Was that way going to
my Treo.
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| In article < 108oj35ckr5f33i68je2
akdcl51vc1bhvg@4ax.com>,
Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:03:50 GMT, John Navas
> < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
> Totally worthless study. Folks with an iPhone are not at the level of
> someone just given an iPhone for other than their first day with an
> iPhone. Then they quickly learn to efficiently use the iPhone virtual
> keyboard.
>
> Now test folks that have had an iPhone for at least 2 weeks
> and see what results you get.
Exactly.
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| In article < titoj3tfqr1q9jd691eh
t7i6bna74ifcga@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:23:17 -0600, George Kerby
> < ghost_topper@hotmail
.com> wrote in
> <C361CE95. 42227%ghost_topper@h
otmail.com>:
>
New sigs for you:
"I've got to be me, I've just got to be me"
"To right the unrightable wrong"
Enjoy.
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| Todd Allcock 2007-11-16, 4:33 am |
| At 15 Nov 2007 09:04:11 -0800 Kurt wrote:
> My iPhone keyboard is much easier to use and more accurate than my=20
> Treo's.=20
Then you're apparently beating the odds- according to the UserCentric,=
Inc.
study comparing 20 iPhone owners, 20 QWERTY hard-key owners and 20
numeric pad users:
> When compared to hard-key QWERTY phone owners using their personal
> phones, iPhone owners=92 rate of text entry on the iPhone was
> equally rapid. However, iPhone owners made more errors during
> text entry and also left significantly more errors in the completed
> messages.=20
> While iPhone owners made an average of 5.6 errors/message on
> their own phone, hard-key QWERTY owners made an average of 2.1=20
> errors/message on their own phone, p < .01. iPhone owners also
> left an average of 2.6 errors/completed message created on the
> iPhone compared to an average of 0.8 errors/completed message left
> by hard-key QWERTY phone owners on their own phone.=20
No matter how you feel about it personally, the press release is actua=
lly
an interesting read, particularly the part about novices making the sa=
me
mistakes on a particular device as 1-month users, which matches up wit=
h
my seven years of experience with PPCs.
Mostly out of habit, I generally still input by using the on-screen
keyboard with stylus, (despite the slide-out QWERTY keyboard my device=
has!) and while I'm orders of magnitude faster today than I was seven
years ago, I still make the same actual mistakes I did then (as my pos=
ts
here would probably bear out, since I write the majority of my posts o=
n
my phone.) =20
Quite often, for example, I graze the "v" on the way to tapping on the=
space bar, inserting a "v" instead of a space between two words. I st=
ill
do that, despite seven years of practice with these devices!=20
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| Todd Allcock 2007-11-16, 4:33 am |
| At 15 Nov 2007 04:33:16 -0600 Ron wrote:
> Totally worthless study.
Perhaps... =20
> Folks with an iPhone are not at the level of
> someone just given an iPhone for other than their first day with an
> iPhone.
True.
> Then they quickly learn to efficiently use the iPhone virtual
> keyboard.
Probably...
=20
> Now test folks that have had an iPhone for at least 2 weeks
> and see what results you get.
You know, Ron, when you're right, you're right. That's and excellent =
idea,
but two weeks seems a little short- how about a month? Then we should=
compare THEIR results to people who don't own one- that ought to prove=
your point.
Now who could we get to do THAT study...?
Oh wait- that's how the study you claimed was "total worthless" WAS do=
ne!
Here's the link for the study itself, rather than the Reg's edited blo=
g
version:
http://www.usercentric.com/news.asp?ID=3D391
From the press release:
> Twenty of these participants were iPhone owners who owned their
> phones FOR AT LEAST ONE MONTH. [emphasis mine] Twenty more
> participants were owners of traditional hard-key QWERTY phones
> and another twenty were owners of numeric phones who used the
> =93multi-tap=94 method of text entry.=20
>
> Interestingly, when comparing the performance of iPhone owners
> and novices (non-iPhone owners), there was NO SIGNIFICANT
> DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF ERRORS MADE, p =3D .21. iPhone owners
> were faster than non-iPhone owners, of course." [emphasis mine] =20
>
> Despite the correction features available on the iPhone, this
> data suggests that people who have owned it for a month are STILL
> MAKING ABOUT THE SAME NUMBER OF ERRORS AS THE DAY THEY GOT IT,=94
> says Gavin Lew, Managing Director. [emphasis, again, mine.]
"Totally worthless study?," huh? You know what they say about people =
who
assume...
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| In article <we9%i.4181$pk.1031@fe095.usenetserver.com>,
Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
> At 15 Nov 2007 09:04:11 -0800 Kurt wrote:
>
>
> Then you're apparently beating the odds- according to the UserCentric, Inc.
> study comparing 20 iPhone owners, 20 QWERTY hard-key owners and 20
> numeric pad users:
>
>
>
>
> No matter how you feel about it personally, the press release is actually
> an interesting read, particularly the part about novices making the same
> mistakes on a particular device as 1-month users, which matches up with
> my seven years of experience with PPCs.
>
> Mostly out of habit, I generally still input by using the on-screen
> keyboard with stylus, (despite the slide-out QWERTY keyboard my device
> has!) and while I'm orders of magnitude faster today than I was seven
> years ago, I still make the same actual mistakes I did then (as my posts
> here would probably bear out, since I write the majority of my posts on
> my phone.)
>
> Quite often, for example, I graze the "v" on the way to tapping on the
> space bar, inserting a "v" instead of a space between two words. I still
> do that, despite seven years of practice with these devices!
That Treo keyboard was so convoluted. Forget trying to easily enter
numbers or alt keys. You had to be a contortionist. The Apple also has
..com, . and others right at bottom. So much more intuitive.
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| Bill Kearney 2007-11-16, 10:33 pm |
| > The Apple also has
> .com, . and others right at bottom. So much more intuitive.
Um, only if all you do it surf or send e-mail. Normal folks need a lot more
than just that crap.
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| In article <- tednd0jt6Sf2qPanZ2dn
UVZ_ramnZ2d@speakeas
y.net>,
"Bill Kearney" <wkearney-99@hot-mail-com> wrote:
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> Um, only if all you do it surf or send e-mail. Normal folks need a lot more
> than just that crap.
Which wasn't the gist of my post at all.
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