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| Ness-Net 2007-12-19, 10:33 pm |
| I have been extremely disappointed in Google mobile maps.
map updates are very slow - and prone to lock up.
MS Live on the other hand is fast and never locks-up.
I think Google (may) be good someday, but still needs work.
"John Navas" < spamfilter1@navasgro
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> Google Maps for Mobile 2.0.1 is a significant overhaul of the user
> interface that make the program easier to use (once you get used to the
> changes), including a directions list (in addition to turn by turn
> directions).
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> Free (other than data charges) download to your cell phone
> http://google.com/gmm
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> "Never attribute to malice that which can be
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| Todd Allcock 2007-12-20, 3:33 pm |
| At 20 Dec 2007 16:58:59 +0000 dold@81.usenet.us.com wrote:
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> Nope. Nothing for my phone, there. It seesm to be a windows-centric
> service, with a nod to Blackberry.
I downloaded the "generic" Java version a few months ago, just to see how
it compared to the native WinMo version. I just checked on my Nokia 3650,
and you're right- it's gone.
Sorry to get your hopes up!
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| dold@81.usenet.us.com 2007-12-20, 10:33 pm |
| Todd Allcock < elecconnec@americaon
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> I downloaded the "generic" Java version a few months ago, just to see how
> it compared to the native WinMo version. I just checked on my Nokia 3650,
> and you're right- it's gone.
Sort of on the same line of thought... Do you know where "live.com" gets
its WiFi "locate me" information? I have visited a couple of hotspots
whose WiFi gives a good "location", and others that show the location of
their ISP.
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| In article <I-qdndq- fLl_WPTanZ2dnUVZ_gqd
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"Ness-Net" <no.richard@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote:
> I have been extremely disappointed in Google mobile maps.
> map updates are very slow - and prone to lock up.
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> MS Live on the other hand is fast and never locks-up.
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> I think Google (may) be good someday, but still needs work.
>
Google maps on the iPhone are fast, and of course, never lock up.
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| Todd Allcock 2007-12-23, 4:33 am |
| At 22 Dec 2007 16:37:30 -0800 Kurt wrote:
> Compared to GoogleMaps for the iPhone, the only thing this has
> going for it would be VR.
Yeah, that, and GPS support, and turn-by-turn directions, residential
listings, save-to-contacts listings, gas prices
> Clunky display, small map...
> But if you are stuck with MS, this is probably a good option.
That's sort of the point- with WM you're not stuck- you can use Google,
WLS, Tom Tom, iGuidance, Delorme, etc.
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| In article <fkl3cn$qe8$1@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
> At 22 Dec 2007 16:37:30 -0800 Kurt wrote:
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> Yeah, that, and GPS support, and turn-by-turn directions, residential
> listings, save-to-contacts listings, gas prices
Too much button pushing for all that. Gas prices? LOL
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> That's sort of the point- with WM you're not stuck- you can use Google,
> WLS, Tom Tom, iGuidance, Delorme, etc.
But it's Windows... ;-)
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| John Navas 2007-12-26, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:45:20 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-D2419E.12452026122007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article <fkl3cn$qe8$1@aioe.org>,
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>Too much button pushing for all that. Gas prices? LOL
I use a local gas prices website that's quite up-to-date and accurate.
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>But it's Windows... ;-)
[shrug]
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| In article < c7s5n3hksv8jhput6orh
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John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
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> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 12:45:20 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-D2419E.12452026122007@news.giganews.com>:
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> I use a local gas prices website that's quite up-to-date and accurate.
Yes, but the notion of extra effort (and driving) to save a couple cents
a gallon (and that's really what it comes down to), is laughable.
Just avoid gas stations by freeways or in the higher rent areas of town,
and it's all a wash. We ll know the more expensive brands- it's your
choice to buy there.
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| John Navas 2007-12-26, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:52:39 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-9D894D.16523926122007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article < c7s5n3hksv8jhput6orh
46qecld5l8bq0u@4ax.com>,
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
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>Yes, but the notion of extra effort (and driving) to save a couple cents
>a gallon (and that's really what it comes down to), is laughable.
>Just avoid gas stations by freeways or in the higher rent areas of town,
>and it's all a wash. We ll know the more expensive brands- it's your
>choice to buy there.
I don't do extra driving -- I just plan my routes and purchases
accordingly.
Knowing when I happen to be near a cheap gas station is much better than
waiting until I'm low and the choices are few.
Knowing that cheaper gas is 2 blocks away is much better than just
settling for what I can see.
And the difference can be much more than a couple of cents --
differences of 25 cents or more are common in this area.
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| In article <oYGcj.38514$aR6.19984@fe103.usenetserver.com>,
Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
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> At 26 Dec 2007 16:52:39 -0800 Kurt wrote:
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> Agreed, to a point- in a strange area, however, it's at least handy to
> establish a baseline. If I know the lowest price in the area is $2.66 I
> can decide whether the $2.69 station is worth the convenience.
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So 3 cents a gallon times, say, 16 (smaller car on empty) = 48 cents.
Worth driving out of your way for? I think not.
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| In article < cc06n3dt4a6bcie2j0f9
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John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 16:52:39 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-9D894D.16523926122007@news.giganews.com>:
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> I don't do extra driving -- I just plan my routes and purchases
> accordingly.
>
> Knowing when I happen to be near a cheap gas station is much better than
> waiting until I'm low and the choices are few.
>
> Knowing that cheaper gas is 2 blocks away is much better than just
> settling for what I can see.
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> And the difference can be much more than a couple of cents --
> differences of 25 cents or more are common in this area.
You do extra driving, believe me.
Show me the 25 cent difference for two gas stations close to each other.
Very common near you, right? SF is on par with LA for gas prices.
For me, that might be a 76 Union in Malibu, and a cash-only Valerio in
Oxnard. And that's only for premium, and both are miles from each other.
Like i said. Just avoid gas stations by freeways or in the higher rent
areas of town.
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| John Navas 2007-12-28, 4:33 am |
| On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:54:47 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-2E45E2.18544727122007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article <oYGcj.38514$aR6.19984@fe103.usenetserver.com>,
> Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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>So 3 cents a gallon times, say, 16 (smaller car on empty) = 48 cents.
>Worth driving out of your way for? I think not.
Worth driving two blocks for? Sure. And the difference around here is
often much greater than that, on the order of 25 cents or more, which is
$4.00 or more for your 16 gallon fillup.
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| John Navas 2007-12-28, 4:33 am |
| On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:07:32 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-C71929.19073227122007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article < cc06n3dt4a6bcie2j0f9
c0aumnisjpoqi6@4ax.com>,
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
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>You do extra driving, believe me.
The extra driving is insignificant.
>Show me the 25 cent difference for two gas stations close to each other.
Shell, 1500 Concord Ave & Market St, Concord: $3.59/gal
Arco, 2490 Monument Blvd & Detroit, Concord: $3.13/gal
>Very common near you, right?
Right.
>SF is on par with LA for gas prices.
SF is actually the most expensive place for gas in the country.
>For me, that might be a 76 Union in Malibu, and a cash-only Valerio in
>Oxnard. And that's only for premium, and both are miles from each other.
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>Like i said. Just avoid gas stations by freeways or in the higher rent
>areas of town.
Perhaps where you live, but not where I live.
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| In article < l1d9n351b9ai1r93786h
b9fnvd7icsok7h@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:07:32 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-C71929.19073227122007@news.giganews.com>:
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> The extra driving is insignificant.
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> Shell, 1500 Concord Ave & Market St, Concord: $3.59/gal
Freeway offramp
> Arco, 2490 Monument Blvd & Detroit, Concord: $3.13/gal
Not close to freeway.
Plus, you compare Shell and Arco. Enough said. Like I said:
Avoid gas stations near freeways and choose your brand preference.
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| clifto 2007-12-28, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt wrote:
> Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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> So 3 cents a gallon times, say, 16 (smaller car on empty) = 48 cents.
> Worth driving out of your way for? I think not.
What makes it worth driving out of your way for is giving your business
to stations that appreciate it and aren't just out to raid your wallet.
I go no less than 10 miles from home nowadays to get gas (note it is NOT
out of my way) because the stations near home have all apparently decided
that they can charge 20 cents per gallon more than the places I patronize.
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| clifto 2007-12-28, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt wrote:
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
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> Freeway offramp
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> Not close to freeway.
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> Plus, you compare Shell and Arco. Enough said. Like I said:
> Avoid gas stations near freeways and choose your brand preference.
Excuse me. Did he, or did he not, show you the 25 cent difference for
two gas stations close to each other?
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| John Navas 2007-12-28, 10:33 pm |
| On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:22:31 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-D76D98.08223128122007@news.giganews.com>:
>In article < l1d9n351b9ai1r93786h
b9fnvd7icsok7h@4ax.com>,
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
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>Freeway offramp
So what? I did what you asked.
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>Not close to freeway.
>
>Plus, you compare Shell and Arco. Enough said. Like I said:
>Avoid gas stations near freeways and choose your brand preference.
Sorry, but for those of us that aren't psychic, that just doesn't work.
We don't automatically know cheaper gas is nearby the way you do. ;)
Here's another example:
http://www.oaklandgasprices.com/map...ong=-122.232530
3.19 on one side of the freeway. 3.54 on the other side of the freeway.
35 cents difference. No way for we non-psychics to know that without
either using a price locator or wandering around aimlessly.
With all due respect, I think you're being either unrealistic or
disingenuous.
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| In article <uvcg45-2td.ln1@remote.clifto.com>,
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kurt wrote:
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> Excuse me. Did he, or did he not, show you the 25 cent difference for
> two gas stations close to each other?
That's about all he could do. Read the OP.
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| In article <lscg45-2td.ln1@remote.clifto.com>,
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kurt wrote:
>
> What makes it worth driving out of your way for is giving your business
> to stations that appreciate it and aren't just out to raid your wallet.
> I go no less than 10 miles from home nowadays to get gas (note it is NOT
> out of my way) because the stations near home have all apparently decided
> that they can charge 20 cents per gallon more than the places I patronize.
Yes, we all have a choice of where to buy from. I agree with you
wholeheartedly.
Avoid expensive brands near freeways and upscale areas. Easy and you'll
never pay anything more than a couple cents difference. No gas finder
software needed.
The argument was about needing to have gas station finder software
installed so that you are able to find cheap gas.
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| clifto 2007-12-28, 10:33 pm |
| Kurt wrote:
> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yes, we all have a choice of where to buy from. I agree with you
> wholeheartedly.
>
> Avoid expensive brands near freeways and upscale areas. Easy and you'll
> never pay anything more than a couple cents difference. No gas finder
> software needed.
>
> The argument was about needing to have gas station finder software
> installed so that you are able to find cheap gas.
I'd personally love to have it, I just don't like running apps on my
cell phone and I can't justify the purchase of a PDA or laptop yet.
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| In article < qf7bn39vlifa4qrju25j
j8adkt3mcqsd1d@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:22:31 -0800, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-D76D98.08223128122007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
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> So what? I did what you asked.
>
>
> Sorry, but for those of us that aren't psychic, that just doesn't work.
> We don't automatically know cheaper gas is nearby the way you do. ;)
>
> Here's another example:
> http://www.oaklandgasprices.com/map....804562&long=-1
> 22.232530
> 3.19 on one side of the freeway. 3.54 on the other side of the freeway.
> 35 cents difference. No way for we non-psychics to know that without
> either using a price locator or wandering around aimlessly.
>
It's not rocket science.
Like I said, avoid near freeway and more expensive brands
3.45 is high-priced Shell, and 3.19 is always cheaper Arco.
The other cheap gas stations were either Arco or gas that comes from
wholesalers. ("Quick Market")
Avoid expensive brands.
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| clifto 2007-12-29, 3:33 pm |
| Kurt wrote:
> 3.45 is high-priced Shell, and 3.19 is always cheaper Arco.
In our area Shell is subject to wild price variations. There's one station
in particular that opened just a few months ago, and they go from one day
being the cheapest station for 20 miles to being the most expensive for 30.
They're seldom in between! They're almost always either the cheapest or
the priciest. IIRC they went the other day from 2.89 to 3.15.
That's not the only station, just the only one that goes between extremes.
There are others that change price wildly and are occasionally as cheap as
anything, other times 10 cents more than the station across the street (and
not near a freeway).
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| In article <80ii45-21e.ln1@remote.clifto.com>,
clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kurt wrote:
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> In our area Shell is subject to wild price variations. There's one station
> in particular that opened just a few months ago, and they go from one day
> being the cheapest station for 20 miles to being the most expensive for 30.
> They're seldom in between! They're almost always either the cheapest or
> the priciest. IIRC they went the other day from 2.89 to 3.15.
>
> That's not the only station, just the only one that goes between extremes.
> There are others that change price wildly and are occasionally as cheap as
> anything, other times 10 cents more than the station across the street (and
> not near a freeway).
Easy. Avoid Shell. use Arco or Quickie Mart.
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