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| CozmicDebris 2007-12-26, 10:33 pm |
| 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a6473d11-a34c-4d8b-832c- 73cd1ea14524@a35g200
0prf.googlegroups.com:
> Apple and Fox just sealed a deal to rent movies via iTunes for your
> iPod or iPhone. The result...
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> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/071226/apple_mover.html
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> AP
> Apple Trades at $200 for First Time
> Wednesday December 26, 6:33 pm ET
> By Rachel Metz, AP Business Writer
> Apple Shares Trade at $200 for 1st Time, Bolstered by Investor
> Confidence in IPod Maker
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> NEW YORK (AP) -- Shares of Apple Inc. hit the $200 mark for the first
> time Wednesday, as investor confidence in the company continued rising
> near the end of what has been a strong year for the iPod and computer
> maker.
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> http://us.rd.yahoo.com/finance/exte...4h/*http://www.
> marketwatch.com/news/story/apple-fox-seal-deal-rent/story.aspx?guid=%7B
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> http://biz.yahoo.com/paidcontent/07...78_id.html?.v=1
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Who'd pay money to watch a movie on that crappy little screen? Only an
iDiot.
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| 4phun 2007-12-26, 10:33 pm |
| On Dec 26, 11:04 pm, CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote innews:a6473d11-a34c-4d8b-832c- 73cd1ea14524@a35g200
0prf.googlegroups.com:
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> Who'd pay money to watch a movie on that crappy little screen? Only an
> iDiot.
Lets see Al Gore, President Clinton, the Queen of England to name a
few. I'm sure millions around the world would be interested in your
assessment of them. It has been reported that they all have iPhones
and love them. BTW the rental movies can be played on a regular HDTV
and a PC to boot.
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| CozmicDebris 2007-12-27, 4:33 am |
| 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in
news:54aef95f-4c83-4499-9b98- 9a2aa09e10c9@e4g2000
hsg.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 26, 11:04 pm, CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
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> Lets see Al Gore, President Clinton, the Queen of England to name a
> few.
Please show me a quote where any one of the three of them said they want
movie downloads on their iPhone. After all, you say that all three of
them want it.
I rest my case.
> I'm sure millions around the world would be interested in your
> assessment of them.
Wow- the power!
> It has been reported that they all have iPhones
> and love them.
Then my iDiot label would fit.
> BTW the rental movies can be played on a regular HDTV
> and a PC to boot.
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Then it has no value. What an overhyped pice of crap service.
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| tmoran@acm.org 2007-12-27, 4:33 am |
| >Who'd pay money to watch a movie on that crappy little screen? Only an iDiot.
Don't you think it would be quite amusing to see and hear the wide
desert scene from Lawrence of Arabia on a cell phone? ;)
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| 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:a6473d11-a34c-4d8b-832c-
73cd1ea14524@a35g200
0prf.googlegroups.com:
> Apple and Fox just sealed a deal to rent movies via iTunes for your
> iPod or iPhone. The result...
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WOW! ....And I was just loading up 8 more DivX movies onto the Linux
tablet's 8GB SD card to take with me, today!
I'm impressed!
How in hell are they gonna play movies over EDGE's dialup speed??
Will it have sound, too, or just 4 frames per minute?
Maybe they're not gonna stream it. It shouldn't take over a month to
download a movie on EDGE....(c;
Larry
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I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for bankers and corporations?
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| CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote in news:Xns9A12D6B4A38C
7isheforreal@
216.196.97.136:
> Who'd pay money to watch a movie on that crappy little screen? Only an
> iDiot.
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Same idiot that paid so much for it in the first place....(c;
Larry
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I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?
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| Todd Allcock 2007-12-27, 3:33 pm |
| At 27 Dec 2007 18:44:09 +0000 Larry wrote:
> How in hell are they gonna play movies over EDGE's dialup speed??
They won't- like all DRM'd iPhone media, I assume it'll be purchased
through iTunes and sideloaded from a computer or via WiFi.
> Will it have sound, too, or just 4 frames per minute?
The iPhone and it's 600MHz processor renders media rather well- much better
than my WinMo phone's paltry 200MHz OMAP processor, which tends to choke on
video files that are encoded at 300kbps or higher. The iPhone can do
30fps/500kbps with it's virtual hands tied behind it's virtual back.
Excellent quality for a 4" display. I encode content for my phone at
15fps/220kbps (it can handle a little more, but I use this setting for
compatibility with my older WinCE devices, and, frankly, given the image
lag of a typical phone LCD screen, 15fps is sufficient.)
There's a great little free program called PocketDivx encoder that has
excellent preset encoding profiles for a variety of portables- PPCs, Palms,
Archos PMPs, etc., encodes rather quickly, and supports batch encoding. I
fire it up before every long airplane ride, encode a bunch of kidvids, load
them on my old PocketPCs and keep three kids happy for an entire flight.
I'll dump a few episodes of the BBC's "Coupling" or "Doctor Who," and/or a
good movie like "Hopscotch" with Walter Matthau on my phone and even Dad
has a good flight!
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| 4phun 2007-12-27, 10:33 pm |
| On Dec 27, 4:19 pm, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 27 Dec 2007 18:44:09 +0000 Larry wrote:
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> They won't- like all DRM'd iPhone media, I assume it'll be purchased
> through iTunes and sideloaded from a computer or via WiFi.
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>
> The iPhone and it's 600MHz processor renders media rather well- much better
> than my WinMo phone's paltry 200MHz OMAP processor, which tends to choke on
> video files that are encoded at 300kbps or higher. The iPhone can do
> 30fps/500kbps with it's virtual hands tied behind it's virtual back.
> Excellent quality for a 4" display. I encode content for my phone at
> 15fps/220kbps (it can handle a little more, but I use this setting for
> compatibility with my older WinCE devices, and, frankly, given the image
> lag of a typical phone LCD screen, 15fps is sufficient.)
>
> There's a great little free program called PocketDivx encoder that has
> excellent preset encoding profiles for a variety of portables- PPCs, Palms,
> Archos PMPs, etc., encodes rather quickly, and supports batch encoding. I
> fire it up before every long airplane ride, encode a bunch of kidvids, load
> them on my old PocketPCs and keep three kids happy for an entire flight.
> I'll dump a few episodes of the BBC's "Coupling" or "Doctor Who," and/or a
> good movie like "Hopscotch" with Walter Matthau on my phone and even Dad
> has a good flight!
The Financial Times is reporting that Apple and Twentieth Century Fox
have reached a deal to provide movie rentals on the iTunes Store,
likely to be announced at Macworld. While Disney sells a full line of
films on iTunes and other studios provide catalog titles, this is the
first rental arrangement to date. Movies are expected to be
downloadable for a limited-play window. Equally important, the
agreement is expected to include onboarding of iPod-compatible video
files with Fox DVDs, so that iPod users can load and go when the DVD
is purchased (rather than ripping the DVD into MP4 video).
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| Larry 2007-12-27, 10:33 pm |
| Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in
news:fl158n$7ba$1@ai
oe.org:
> At 27 Dec 2007 18:44:09 +0000 Larry wrote:
>
speed??[color=darkred]
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> They won't- like all DRM'd iPhone media, I assume it'll be
purchased
> through iTunes and sideloaded from a computer or via WiFi.
>
>
>
> The iPhone and it's 600MHz processor renders media rather well-
much
> better than my WinMo phone's paltry 200MHz OMAP processor,
which tends
> to choke on video files that are encoded at 300kbps or higher.
The
> iPhone can do 30fps/500kbps with it's virtual hands tied behind
it's
> virtual back. Excellent quality for a 4" display. I encode
content
> for my phone at 15fps/220kbps (it can handle a little more, but
I use
> this setting for compatibility with my older WinCE devices,
and,
> frankly, given the image lag of a typical phone LCD screen,
15fps is
> sufficient.)
>
> There's a great little free program called PocketDivx encoder
that has
> excellent preset encoding profiles for a variety of portables-
PPCs,
> Palms, Archos PMPs, etc., encodes rather quickly, and supports
batch
> encoding. I fire it up before every long airplane ride, encode
a
> bunch of kidvids, load them on my old PocketPCs and keep three
kids
> happy for an entire flight. I'll dump a few episodes of the
BBC's
> "Coupling" or "Doctor Who," and/or a good movie like
"Hopscotch" with
> Walter Matthau on my phone and even Dad has a good flight!
>
>
>
I think you missed the point. These movies are supposed to be
either downloading or streaming from some server to iPhoney,
right? That would work over wifi, but ain't gonna happen over
EDGE in SLOW MOTION...(c; Movies over EDGE would look more like
a slide show. Movies over EVDO are BARELY playable in RealVideo
at 320Kbps because streaming needs RELIABLE thruput, not spurts
of speed with unpredictable dead times and highly variable
download rates over a SELLphone circuit.
(Oh, God, this is gonna bring out of the woodwork a whole bunch
of fanbois who get 4Mbps 24/7 over their SELLphones, just watch.)
SELLphone processors, of course, have to deal with being
SELLphones, too. That's gotta be a lot of CPU cycles wasted
while you're trying to watch a movie.
I can see balks caused by my N800 tablet checking email and such
while the movie is playing, so I shut down the BT or wifi link to
put a stop to it. Too many interrupt-driven background projects
spoils the smooth delivery of video/audio to the picture.
For these reasons, I quit using the Orb streamer over EVDO and
just easily load a few things I want to watch from the mainframe
to the 8GB SD card before I leave. Once the net is turned off
and I'm watching something from the External 8GB SD card slot, at
800 pixels wide, it's an incredible movie machine using rplayer,
recently ported to Maemo Linux with its own better codecs for
Divx/Xvid movies. To get such a picture with Stereo sound,
usually MP3 encoded, just eats the 330MHz TI OMAP 2420 CPU. It
will still run apps in background without balking unless the
apps, themselves balk, of course. It's best to shut everything
down you can before starting the movie for best results.
People who have seen them all are amazed at how well the DivX
movies look on the N800 runnin mplayer, which puts it by default
in full screen mode and utilizes all the N800's
buttons....forward/back/pause/play/next/previous/audio
up/down/menu...etc.
mplayer isn't very polished, yet. I did find I can get back to
the desktop by playing a trick on it....press the power/lock
button as if I'm going to lock it, and the desktop appears while
the movie still runs, then click FULL SCREEN to return to the
movie. The codecs it runs destroys the usefulness of the app
picker (lowest button on the front) as it comes out two sizes..
(c; Speed and smooth is much more important....
Thanks for the pointer to PocketDivx encoder. I ran it on a DivX
movie I couldn't play on the tablet to change it, but it crashed.
I sent the log of the crash to the author for his use. I'll play
with it further. The N800 isn't a selection so I chose one of
the big Archos players. I'll figure out what optimum is for the
tablet. Nokia has a converter, too, but it's slow and not very
friendly to the codec mass on my mainframe. It didn't fix some
of the movies that wouldn't play. mplayer fixed a lot of them,
but there are still some I can't play on the tablet. PocketDivx
may be a port to fix that. Again, thanks.
Larry
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I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?
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| Ron Chapman 2007-12-27, 10:33 pm |
| In article < Xns9A13C72716C8Fnoon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> SELLphone processors, of course, have to deal with being
> SELLphones, too. That's gotta be a lot of CPU cycles wasted
> while you're trying to watch a movie.
While your limited experience is with Verizon and Alltel, the rest of
the world doesn't use providers that SELL you your phone features back.
Therefore, we're not talking SELLphones, we're talking cellular phones.
Get away from Alltel, and get into the real world.
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| Tinman 2007-12-28, 10:33 am |
| Larry wrote:
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> I think you missed the point. These movies are supposed to be
> either downloading or streaming from some server to iPhoney,
No, Larry, as usual it is you that missed the point. Nobody said the movies
would be streamed directly to the iPhone.
And ferchristsake, you are over 60-years-old. Stop acting like you are
twelve.
--
Mike
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| Larry 2007-12-28, 12:33 pm |
| "Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote in news:5tkka2F1e8m07U1
@mid.individual.net:
> No, Larry, as usual it is you that missed the point. Nobody said the
> movies would be streamed directly to the iPhone.
>
So the point REALLY is the iphoney ISN'T going to be playing movies, after
all.....unless some miracle happens.
Larry
--
I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?
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| Todd Allcock 2007-12-28, 10:33 pm |
| At 28 Dec 2007 17:29:26 +0000 Larry wrote:
> So the point REALLY is the iphoney ISN'T going to be playing movies,
> after all.....unless some miracle happens.
Yeah, the "miracle" of synching.
The movies will load from your computer (or likely also over WiFi, since
Apple enabled iTunes purchasing on the phone directly via WiFi some months
ago.)
Why does this invalidate movies on the iPhone in your mind?
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| Larry 2007-12-28, 10:33 pm |
| Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in
news:fl3r8n$4li$2@ai
oe.org:
> At 28 Dec 2007 17:29:26 +0000 Larry wrote:
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> Yeah, the "miracle" of synching.
>
> The movies will load from your computer (or likely also over WiFi,
> since Apple enabled iTunes purchasing on the phone directly via WiFi
> some months ago.)
>
> Why does this invalidate movies on the iPhone in your mind?
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Ah, I see. Thanks.
Can you store the movies on the iPhone so you can play them away from
your hotspot from the iPhone memory? What restrictions on them are there
from this "rental"?
Remember the DivX movies Circuit City sold that would only run 3 days
before self-destruct. Is it like that or you only get to play them once
or the like?
Again, thanks for the information, I couldn't figure out how they were
going to deliver them over EDGE crawling along like a snail on 2G.
Larry
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I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?
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| Todd Allcock 2007-12-29, 4:33 am |
| At 29 Dec 2007 04:15:31 +0000 Larry wrote:
> Can you store the movies on the iPhone so you can play them away from
> your hotspot from the iPhone memory? What restrictions on them are there
> from this "rental"?
I'm not sure they've hammere
out all of the details, but I assume you can play them without a
connection (but perhaps a connection will be necessary at first to verify
they're still playable) and I assume they'll self-destruct like the reel-to-
reel tape in an episode of Mission: Impossible after x# of plays and/or days.
> Remember the DivX movies Circuit City sold that would only run 3 days
> before self-destruct. Is it like that or you only get to play them once
> or the like?
We'll see- as always, I assume the devil's in the details! ;-)
> Again, thanks for the information, I couldn't figure out how they were
> going to deliver them over EDGE crawling along like a snail on 2G.
What would be cool would be a Microsoft Zune-like subscription for Video.
(MS offers a $15 subscription that lets you download and play virtually any
song in their store for $15/month. The catch is that all the songs
"expire" and refuse to play when you stop paying.) A similar
"subscription" for video would be a neat competitor to cable or satellite,
and a natural extension of the Netflix concept.
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| Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in news:fl4j9o$3a9$1
@aioe.org:
> What would be cool would be a Microsoft Zune-like subscription for Video.
Naw. What will be cool is when Western Digital comes out with the self-
powered hard drive that plugs into the SD socket on my N800 tablet so I can
take more movies with me than will fit on the 8GB SD that's in there now.
alt.binaries.movies.divx
Ever downloaded any?...........................................liars!
Larry
--
I worked hard under Social Security since I was 12.
My SS retirement check is one oz of gold per month.
Can we afford to start any more wars for corporations?
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| Todd Allcock 2007-12-29, 10:33 pm |
| At 29 Dec 2007 05:34:04 +0000 Larry wrote:
> Naw. What will be cool is when Western Digital comes out with the self-
> powered hard drive that plugs into the SD socket on my N800 tablet so I
can
> take more movies with me than will fit on the 8GB SD that's in there now.
Blame Nokia for not allowing the USB port on the tablet for being a "host"
as well as a "client."
> alt.binaries.movies.divx
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> Ever downloaded any?...........................................liars!
Actually I haven't. I won't pretend I'm lily white and pure- but I tend to
limit my illegal downloading to content that's unavailable to purchase-
i.e. the BBC's new "Doctor Who" series that won't be broadcast here for up
to a year after it's broadcast there, then after the US Broadcast it'll
finally come out on DVD, over a year after it's released on DVD there. I
just pulled the Christmas episode with a bittorrent client a couple of days
ago. Some nice Brit uploaded it less than 90 minutes after it aired in the
UK.
I don't have a problem paying the legitimate copyright holders for their
product, I just get annoyed at the stupidity, particularly in this digital
age where you don't even have to press and distribute a physical disc
anymore, of not making content available.
Classic TV is a perfect example- I realize not enough people would buy,
say, the entire series of "The Wild, Wild West" or "Route 66" on DVD to
justify pressing it, but this kind of stuff would be perfect fodder for a
download it/burn it yourself distribution model.
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| Elmo P. Shagnasty 2007-12-29, 10:33 pm |
| In article <bOCdj.47553$aR6.36104@fe103.usenetserver.com>,
Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
> Classic TV is a perfect example- I realize not enough people would buy,
> say, the entire series of "The Wild, Wild West" or "Route 66" on DVD to
> justify pressing it, but this kind of stuff would be perfect fodder for a
> download it/burn it yourself distribution model.
Or just watch it as you wish.
hulu.com is coming on VERY strong; if they continue as they are, they
will force a huge change in how people do this kind of thing.
Joost was there first, but buggered it up with bad programming and the
absolute worst user interface they could come up with.
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