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Apple slowly bumping up the speed on iPhones?

4phun

2007-12-29, 10:33 pm

With the new 1.1.2 firmware many users reported that their iPhones
'felt a little snappier'. This could be in part due to the fact that
with the 1.1.2 firmware the processor is actually being used at a
slightly higher speed. iPhones ship with a 624mz processor, but
originally Apple capped them at 400mz for typical use to help enhance
the battery life. With 1.1.2 that's been bumped up to 412.

While this may not be major news right now, it does hint that Apple
may have more features planned which require the additional
horsepower. Another side of the coin may be that as Apple continues to
refine the iPhone code base and make various functions more efficient
they can ramp up the processor without adversely affecting battery
life. Whatever the cause we can hopefully look forward to seeing our
iPhones get faster and faster with each coming software update.

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4phun

2007-12-29, 10:33 pm

On Dec 29, 7:43 pm, 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> With the new 1.1.2 firmware many users reported that their iPhones
> 'felt a little snappier'. This could be in part due to the fact that
> with the 1.1.2 firmware the processor is actually being used at a
> slightly higher speed. iPhones ship with a 624mz processor, but
> originally Apple capped them at 400mz for typical use to help enhance
> the battery life. With 1.1.2 that's been bumped up to 412.
>
> While this may not be major news right now, it does hint that Apple
> may have more features planned which require the additional
> horsepower. Another side of the coin may be that as Apple continues to
> refine the iPhone code base and make various functions more efficient
> they can ramp up the processor without adversely affecting battery
> life. Whatever the cause we can hopefully look forward to seeing our
> iPhones get faster and faster with each coming software update.
>
> ---

If the iPhone is getting faster then the developers need to include a
slower speed routine in the stand alone games to keep them from being
too fast. The iPhone Chess game is downright unnerving with the other
side making a move in the blink of an eye just after you complete your
move. If you blink, you will fail to even see the iPhone's move as it
happens.

CozmicDebris

2007-12-29, 10:33 pm

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:8d970ac5-5596-416a-bfee-
0c29081befa9@i3g2000
hsf.googlegroups.com:

> With the new 1.1.2 firmware many users reported that their iPhones
> 'felt a little snappier'. This could be in part due to the fact that
> with the 1.1.2 firmware the processor is actually being used at a
> slightly higher speed. iPhones ship with a 624mz processor, but
> originally Apple capped them at 400mz for typical use to help enhance
> the battery life. With 1.1.2 that's been bumped up to 412.
>
> While this may not be major news right now, it does hint that Apple
> may have more features planned which require the additional
> horsepower. Another side of the coin may be that as Apple continues to
> refine the iPhone code base and make various functions more efficient
> they can ramp up the processor without adversely affecting battery
> life. Whatever the cause we can hopefully look forward to seeing our
> iPhones get faster and faster with each coming software update.
>
> ---
>
>

And watch the battery life drop through the floor. So much for that
selling point.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2007-12-29, 10:33 pm

In article
<8d970ac5-5596-416a-bfee- 0c29081befa9@i3g2000
hsf.googlegroups.com>,
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:

> With the new 1.1.2 firmware many users reported that their iPhones
> 'felt a little snappier'.

Oh, come ON.

This has been going on with Macintosh users since day 1. "Oh, look--I
just went from System 6.0.7 to System 6.0.8, and my system is SO MUCH
FASTER and MORE STABLE! It's INCREDIBLE!"

People want to think they got something for their efforts, so they
imagine things that just aren't true.

Larry

2007-12-29, 10:33 pm

CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote in news:Xns9A15BD86C9B7
2isheforreal@
216.196.97.136:

> And watch the battery life drop through the floor. So much for that
> selling point.
>
>

Oh, no, that only happens in mere mortal computers. iPhones can run for
weeks at 12, even 14 Ghz, with the display full bright on a 300ma battery
pack. It's part of the Apple Perpetual iMotion Device in every iPhone.

The new model will not even require charging! You'll be able to crank your
SUV off its surplus power, if your SUV battery goes dead!

version 1.2.1, coming out in another few weeks, will turn the iPhone into a
whole-house power plant! Utility companies are terrified, stock
dropping....

Larry
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When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

Larry

2007-12-29, 10:33 pm

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
BB8645. 20401629122007@nntp1
.usenetserver.com:

> In article
> <8d970ac5-5596-416a-bfee- 0c29081befa9@i3g2000
hsf.googlegroups.com>,
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Oh, come ON.
>
> This has been going on with Macintosh users since day 1. "Oh, look--I
> just went from System 6.0.7 to System 6.0.8, and my system is SO MUCH
> FASTER and MORE STABLE! It's INCREDIBLE!"
>
> People want to think they got something for their efforts, so they
> imagine things that just aren't true.
>
>

MAC OS-X is much faster than the Apple 2 was.....

They been gettin' better'n better!

Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
TODAY its $838/oz, up $40 since Christmas, up $11 just TODAY!
1yearchg +204.60 +32.26%
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

Kevin Weaver

2007-12-29, 10:33 pm

"4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8d970ac5-5596-416a-bfee- 0c29081befa9@i3g2000
hsf.googlegroups.com...
> With the new 1.1.2 firmware many users reported that their iPhones
> 'felt a little snappier'. This could be in part due to the fact that
> with the 1.1.2 firmware the processor is actually being used at a
> slightly higher speed. iPhones ship with a 624mz processor, but
> originally Apple capped them at 400mz for typical use to help enhance
> the battery life. With 1.1.2 that's been bumped up to 412.
>
> While this may not be major news right now, it does hint that Apple
> may have more features planned which require the additional
> horsepower. Another side of the coin may be that as Apple continues to
> refine the iPhone code base and make various functions more efficient
> they can ramp up the processor without adversely affecting battery
> life. Whatever the cause we can hopefully look forward to seeing our
> iPhones get faster and faster with each coming software update.
>
> ---
>

The battery life sucks already. With this, It's going to suck even more.

Todd Allcock

2007-12-30, 4:33 am

At 29 Dec 2007 20:40:16 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> Oh, come ON.
>
> This has been going on with Macintosh users since day 1. "Oh, look--I
> just went from System 6.0.7 to System 6.0.8, and my system is SO MUCH
> FASTER and MORE STABLE! It's INCREDIBLE!"
>
> People want to think they got something for their efforts, so they
> imagine things that just aren't true.
>

Agreed, but it's not exclusive to Apple devotees. Everytime a new ROM is
released for a WinMo phone, posters on XDA-developers and Howard Forums
make equally ludicrous claims of phones seeming "twice as fast" or battery
life lasting "twice as long."

Kurt

2007-12-30, 3:33 pm

In article <e7Ddj.33111$lD6.24425@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
"Kevin Weaver" < kevinkeithweaver@sbc
global.net> wrote:

> "4phun" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8d970ac5-5596-416a-bfee- 0c29081befa9@i3g2000
hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> The battery life sucks already. With this, It's going to suck even more.

The battery life on my iPhone is far better than my Treo ever was.
I charge about once every 3 days.

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Kevin Weaver

2007-12-30, 3:33 pm

"Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
news:labolide-C5B5CF.10505130122007@news.giganews.com...
> In article <e7Ddj.33111$lD6.24425@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
> "Kevin Weaver" < kevinkeithweaver@sbc
global.net> wrote:
>
>
> The battery life on my iPhone is far better than my Treo ever was.
> I charge about once every 3 days.
>
> --
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3 days on standby only then yes. But real world use is about a day, day and
a half. I've played with a friends for a weekend and starting at a full
charge talked about 1 hour, with Bluetooth on for that hour call. Surf over
the painful slow edge connection and the battery was showing one bar left. 3
days on standby, yes. using the other functions, not going to happen.

Sad part of not letting the user swap the battery has the user watching the
battery more and more. Will I have enough to last and If so, how long ? Can
I make it thru the day ? All of which could have been avoided if apple were
to have allowed the user to change the battery on his own.

Todd Allcock

2007-12-30, 10:33 pm

At 30 Dec 2007 13:31:51 -0600 tmoran@acm.org wrote:

> No. Battery life depends on CPU speed but not on code efficiency.
> So they can keep the old CPU speed and battery life and use better
> code to speed things up, or they can slow down the CPU and increase
> battery life use better code to retain the same functional speed.

True, but CPU speed can be controlled by software, and I assume the
iPhone's is. It can be set to stay low when the device is "idling" and
cranked up when doing processor-intensive stuff like playing video. Love
the iPhone, hate it, or anything inbetween, it has a phenomenal battery
life for such a loaded device (WiFi, BT, etc.)

Kevin Weaver

2007-12-30, 10:33 pm

"Todd Allcock" < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in message
news:fl931d$773$1@ai
oe.org...
> At 30 Dec 2007 13:31:51 -0600 tmoran@acm.org wrote:
>
>
>
> True, but CPU speed can be controlled by software, and I assume the
> iPhone's is. It can be set to stay low when the device is "idling" and
> cranked up when doing processor-intensive stuff like playing video. Love
> the iPhone, hate it, or anything inbetween, it has a phenomenal battery
> life for such a loaded device (WiFi, BT, etc.)
>
>
>

Your tilt has great battery life as well. I tried one and after hours of
playing with it it only lost about 25%

It is a big one. And it's a user replacement. My friend loves his. He had
the Moto Q But loved the Tilt so much he paid the 175.00 ETF to Verizon just
to get one. Sold the Q for 150.00 so it was almost a wash for the ETF.

Larry

2007-12-30, 10:33 pm

"Kevin Weaver" < kevinkeithweaver@sbc
global.net> wrote in
news:SWTdj.33175$lD6.20630@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net:

> All of which could have been avoided if apple were
> to have allowed the user to change the battery on his own.
>
>

Being designed for the most incredibly stupid amoungst us, they left
out many tasks it was determined were too complex for "web
appliance users" to accomplish, without driiving tech support
bananas, such as changing batteries, memory cards, plugging and
unplugging external data gadgets, or pairing useful bluettooth
devices like the external keyboard I'm typing this message on from my
Nokia BT keyboard, paired with the n800 Linux tablet bluetoothed to
my MotoROKR SELLphone to the home XP box via another omitted feature,
installable free software, rdesktop.

Same reason disposable flashlights were invented...(c;)

Larry
--
http://kitco.com/charts/livegold.html
9-11-2001 gold was $270/oz
TODAY its $838/oz, up $40 since Christmas, up $11 just TODAY!
1yearchg +204.60 +32.26%
When does a "slide" become a "crash"?

DTC

2007-12-30, 10:33 pm

Kevin Weaver wrote:
> Sad part of not letting the user swap the battery has the user watching
> the battery more and more. Will I have enough to last and If so, how
> long ? Can I make it thru the day ? All of which could have been avoided
> if apple were to have allowed the user to change the battery on his own.

Sad part is, Apple didn't deploy an iCharger function to charge (pardon
the pun) users to charge the phone on their own.

Kurt

2007-12-30, 10:33 pm

In article < Xns9A16C02DA357Dnoon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Being designed for the most incredibly stupid amoungst us

People who like things to work without spending all their time
troubleshooting and finding third party software that doesn't crash the
unit?
Count me in.

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Kurt

2007-12-30, 10:33 pm

In article <fl931d$773$1@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:

> At 30 Dec 2007 13:31:51 -0600 tmoran@acm.org wrote:
>
>
>
> True, but CPU speed can be controlled by software, and I assume the
> iPhone's is. It can be set to stay low when the device is "idling" and
> cranked up when doing processor-intensive stuff like playing video. Love
> the iPhone, hate it, or anything inbetween, it has a phenomenal battery
> life for such a loaded device (WiFi, BT, etc.)

This has been my experience, and why I've often gotten 3 days between
charges - even with WIFI use (which I use a lot).

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Todd Allcock

2007-12-30, 10:33 pm

At 30 Dec 2007 23:22:14 +0000 Kevin Weaver wrote:

> Your tilt has great battery life as well. I tried one and after
> hours of playing with it it only lost about 25%

I wish I had a Tilt! I'm still using a T-Mo MDA (HTC Wizard)- I'm waiting
for T-Mo to release a version of the Tilt (HTC Kaiser) that will be
compatible with T-Mo's oddball 3G frequency.

> It is a big one. And it's a user replacement. My friend loves his.
> He had the Moto Q But loved the Tilt so much he paid the 175.00
> ETF to Verizon just to get one. Sold the Q for 150.00 so it was
> almost a wash for the ETF.

Not bad. I'm hoping T-Mo releases a version soon- my MDA is getting a
little outdated, despite the er, um, "unofficial" WM6 ROM I've installed on
it. I have a 2400mAH extended battery for the MDA that makes an already
thick phone thicker, because the standard battery (even when new) barely
makes it through a day with my use. I generally only use the extended one
when traveling and can't guarantee I'll have access to an AC or car charger
at some point throughout the day for a quick "freshen up."

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2007-12-31, 7:33 am

In article <labolide-B39A3B.18541830122007@news.giganews.com>,
Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:

> In article < Xns9A16C02DA357Dnoon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
> Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> People who like things to work without spending all their time
> troubleshooting and finding third party software that doesn't crash the
> unit?
> Count me in.

One can only imagine what Larry's refrigerator looks like, and how much
time he has to devote to keeping it running.

In fact, I wonder how he has any time to read news at all...

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