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karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net

2007-03-14, 10:33 am

Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
deactivated.

They went through many interatiions.

First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message

Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
Message.

Today the VP called it an accident..


Elmo P. Shagnasty

2007-03-14, 10:33 am

In article < ua0gv259l29l475q072u
f4tfh7v8hfar9i@4ax.com>,
karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote:

> Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
> Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
> deactivated.
>
> They went through many interatiions.
>
> First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>
> Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
> Message.
>
> Today the VP called it an accident..


Don't tell Navas. His head will explode.

Hey, Navas--what's your response to THIS one, eh? Even Cingular's VP
doesn't try to defend it. So what's YOUR problem?

Oh, I see. You're not that far up the food chain. You're only up as
far as...the CSR level.

HEY--YOU'RE A CSR AT CINGULAR. Now we know the truth.

Scott

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:ua0gv259l29l475
q072uf4tfh7v8hfar9i@
4ax.com:

> Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
> Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
> deactivated.
>
> They went through many interatiions.
>
> First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>
> Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
> Message.
>
> Today the VP called it an accident..
>
>
>


Called it an accident or you an accident.

Glad to see that you're ringing up the nuisance credits just as you did
with Sprint- you must be starving for attention again.
karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:46:34 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:

> karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> news:ua0gv259l29l475
q072uf4tfh7v8hfar9i@
4ax.com:
>
[color=darkred]
>
>Glad to see that you're ringing up the nuisance credits just as you did
>with Sprint- you must be starving for attention again.


It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
dropped calls with Sprint. But finally the Biodegradable plastic
phones that held a grand total of 8 ringtones was a downer.


I will always hold corporations to account when they screw up, rather
than look to make excuses for them. And it was ATTWS that
I previously held their feet to the fire.

Doesn't mean I'm not a happy Cingular customer (jeez anything is
better than Sprint), and happily awaiting an iPhone.
Scott

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:cl2hv297tj7v3sj
b1g3n26t5alhkhrrbad@
4ax.com:


>
> It was fun using the automatic system to get credits for the myriad
> dropped calls with Sprint.



Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.

> But finally the Biodegradable plastic
> phones that held a grand total of 8 ringtones was a downer.



I see that the urban myths still run rampant in your tiny little brain.


>
>
> I will always hold corporations to account when they screw up, rather
> than look to make excuses for them. And it was ATTWS that
> I previously held their feet to the fire.


How did they screw up? They were well within their rights to contact you
as an existing customer. You were simply looking for a nuisance credit,
which is very appropriately named in this case.


>
> Doesn't mean I'm not a happy Cingular customer (jeez anything is
> better than Sprint),



No- nothing is better than Sprint now that you left.

> and happily awaiting an iPhone.
>


Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.
Kurt

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

In article < U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2d
nUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphi
a.com>,
Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:

>
> Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
> have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
> least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.


I'd rather carry just one phone.

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John Navas

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:

>In article < U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2d
nUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphi
a.com>,
> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
>I'd rather carry just one phone.


I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.

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>
Elmo P. Shagnasty

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

In article < U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2d
nUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphi
a.com>,
Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:

>
>
> Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.


How is that an admission of fraud?

He got credit for the myriad of dropped calls. That's not fraud.

Mary

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:47 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote:

>Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
>Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
>deactivated.
>
>They went through many interatiions.
>
>First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>
>Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
>Message.
>
>Today the VP called it an accident..
>


Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
message?

What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
would satisfy you and get you off the line.

Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
takers? <GRIN>


karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:05:41 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:

> karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> news:cl2hv297tj7v3sj
b1g3n26t5alhkhrrbad@
4ax.com:
>
>
>
>
>Admission of fraud- how cavalier, you slug.


Whats fraudulent. All you like to do is insult someone foor leaving
Sprint? You left Ohio !

>
>
>
>I see that the urban myths still run rampant in your tiny little brain.


Not Myths, experience with Sanyo phones.

>
>
>
>How did they screw up? They were well within their rights to contact you
>as an existing customer. You were simply looking for a nuisance credit,
>which is very appropriately named in this case.
>
>
>
>
>No- nothing is better than Sprint now that you left.


Funny, Consumer Reports, J.D. Power, and Yankee group have for each of
the last three years since I left Sprint,
still rank it WORST in Customer Service. Nothing has changed there.

>
>
>Good- let me know how the Flinstone technology works for you. I'd rather
>have cutting-edge technology for that price rather than a repackage of at
>least ten less-than-$200 phones that I can think of.


Insulting the iPhone cause Sprint can't have one? How lame !!

karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:19:08 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
>I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
>HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.


We'll see who has the last laugh come July 1. meanwhile I was 100%
correct that V3 phones would be free by now, indeed they're at minus
$50 if bought through Amazon,
karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:30:12 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article < U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2d
nUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphi
a.com>,
> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
>How is that an admission of fraud?
>
>He got credit for the myriad of dropped calls. That's not fraud.



You have to excuse Scott, he's your basic Sprint apologist.
Kurt

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

In article < d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b0
6i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
> I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
> HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.


Yes, we know... ;-)

Never owned a Mac recently, have you?

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karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:33:55 -0400, Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:47 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote:
>
>
>Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
>think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
>message?
>
>What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
>just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
>would satisfy you and get you off the line.
>
>Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
>takers? <GRIN>
>



Nope it was the Vice President. No CSR has the authority to do what he
did.
Kurt

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

In article < da8hv212ffcjegt1vjob
c327kn8ss4345a@4ax.com>,
Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:10:47 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote:
>
>
> Do you honestly think that "the VP" called you? For that matter do you
> think that any VP of the company called you about a single text
> message?
>
> What you got was an intelligent customer service rep. who realized
> just by saying he/she was a VP and saying something was an accident
> would satisfy you and get you off the line.
>
> Now I have some ocean front property for sale in South Dakota - any
> takers? <GRIN>


It's a fine tradition going back to the titles on car dealership
business cards, where every salesperson was a VP of something ("VP of
Fleet Sales" was always a good one).

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Mary

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:50:09 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:33:55 -0400, Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Nope it was the Vice President. No CSR has the authority to do what he
>did.


Can I interpret this to mean you are interested in buying my ocean
front property?

Scott

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
56F5ED. 20301214032007@nntp1
.usenetserver.com:

> In article < U_Kdnc1i279IEGXYnZ2d
nUVZ_oavnZ2d@adelphi
a.com>,
> Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
> How is that an admission of fraud?
>
> He got credit for the myriad of dropped calls. That's not fraud.
>


Google the prtintpcs group archives for postingd by Phillipe, circa 2003-
2004. They will explain themselves.
Scott

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:179hv2tqskmpbkt
r289ut0o6asu0qeha4a@
4ax.com:

> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:05:41 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
> Whats fraudulent. All you like to do is insult someone foor leaving
> Sprint? You left Ohio !


Left Ohio? Do you mean left Ohio as in never lived there?


>
>
> Not Myths, experience with Sanyo phones.


The experience of a single user is hardly authoritative- ask John
Novice.


>
>
> Funny, Consumer Reports, J.D. Power, and Yankee group have for each of
> the last three years since I left Sprint,
> still rank it WORST in Customer Service. Nothing has changed there.


And the most recently released independent study of dropped calls rated
them higher than Cingular (the self -professed leader). The legacy
Cingular network came in fifth, I believe.

>
>
> Insulting the iPhone cause Sprint can't have one? How lame !!
>
>


How is stating the obvious an insult? The phone will do nothing useful
on the network that any one of about a dozen current production models
and a couple of dozen retired production models of various manufacturers
already do. And any one of those phones can be had for under $200, with
a few available for a little more than $100. Hell, the Razr has the
network functionality of your beloved iPhone. And based on the publicly
acknowledged supply issues Apple is experiencing to manufacture the
phone, the chances of getting a defective phone will be extremely high.

No thanks, I'll pass- I'd rather own a phone that will work and not pay
a price reserved for the clueless.

Scott

2007-03-14, 10:33 pm

karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in news:7h9hv25q1dailp1
s87tvcdr1cje77a12a0
@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:33:55 -0400, Mary <zzz@zzz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Nope it was the Vice President. No CSR has the authority to do what he
> did.


Not true- they all have the ability to issue nuisance credits.
John Navas

2007-03-15, 4:33 am

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:47:37 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
< ac9hv2httr2g2mfk9k9i
v3co22e3vcsg8l@4ax.com>:

>On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:19:08 GMT, John Navas
>< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>We'll see who has the last laugh come July 1.


I already have the last laugh -- my phone is working very well indeed,
not to mention being considerably less expensive.

>meanwhile I was 100%
>correct that V3 phones would be free by now, indeed they're at minus
>$50 if bought through Amazon,


V3xx? On an upgrade? Really? Suggest you actually check instead of
just guessing. ;)

--
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>
John Navas

2007-03-15, 4:33 am

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-1CEFEE.18504014032007@news.giganews.com>:

>In article < d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b0
6i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>,
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>Yes, we know... ;-)
>
>Never owned a Mac recently, have you?


My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
major vendors, Apple included.

--
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Q
>
John Navas

2007-03-15, 4:33 am

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:19:08 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote in
< d64hv2pn5fms2j5je4b0
6i6ruhs34me10m@4ax.com>:

>On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:14:17 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
>in <labolide-FF23DC.17141714032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
>I'd rather have a real phone than vaporware, and I'd rather have an
>HSDPA phone than an expensive music player.


For that matter, my V3xx is quite good at playing music, and podcasts as
well. I just might buy a dirt cheap 1 GB memory card. :)
--
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Q
>
Bucky

2007-03-15, 4:33 am

On Mar 14, 7:12 pm, Mary <z...@zzz.com> wrote:
> Can I interpret this to mean you are interested in buying my ocean
> front property?


Yes, but I mistakenly sent you a money order for twice the amount.
Please wire me the difference.

P.S. Did you know that the President of the United States personally
signed those achievement certificates that I got in grade school?

Mary

2007-03-15, 7:33 am

On 15 Mar 2007 00:31:54 -0700, "Bucky" <uw_badgers@email.com> wrote:

>On Mar 14, 7:12 pm, Mary <z...@zzz.com> wrote:
>
>Yes, but I mistakenly sent you a money order for twice the amount.
>Please wire me the difference.


OK, already done. Let me know if it doesn't show up.

>
>P.S. Did you know that the President of the United States personally
>signed those achievement certificates that I got in grade school?


Yes I did. I graduated from Abraham Lincoln High School in 1973 and
President Lincoln personnally signed all of our diplomas.

Kurt

2007-03-15, 12:33 pm

In article < ssihv25l3ov7grdoaqfv
ujlod4t5h78e7p@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 18:50:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-1CEFEE.18504014032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
> My rather extensive hardware inventory includes gear from most of the
> major vendors, Apple included.


You own and use a Mac computer?

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

2007-03-15, 12:33 pm

In article <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>,
Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:

>
> You own and use a Mac computer?


He owns and uses a computer, obviously, but the rest of it is all in his
mind.

Navas would tell you all sorts of stories, on the thought that you might
actually believe him.

John Navas

2007-03-15, 12:33 pm

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:38:08 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>:

>In article < ssihv25l3ov7grdoaqfv
ujlod4t5h78e7p@4ax.com>,
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>You own and use a Mac computer?


What part of what I wrote was unclear?

My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)

Regardless, the characteristics of current Macs have no real bearing the
upcoming iPhone -- the iPod is probably more relevant, although only
partially relevant. Only time will tell how well the iPhone measures up
to and will do against offerings from established major cellular
manufacturers. I would frankly be surprised if the iPhone amounts to
more than a niche product, with small market share like the Mac (not the
iPod). Or was that what you meant? ;)

--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>
Kurt

2007-03-15, 10:33 pm

In article < 63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p
0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:38:08 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
> What part of what I wrote was unclear?


Ambiguous answer. You made it sound like you might have a Mac peripheral
plugged to a PC.
>
> My practice is to use the best tool for the job at hand. For some of my
> professional work, that will be Solaris on a Sun workstation. For other
> things, that will be Windows, BSD, or Linux on an Intel machine. For
> still other things, that will be a Mac, especially when my client is
> using Macs. (For what it's worth, my personal machine of choice is
> Windows XP with guest BSD and Linux on an IBM ThinkPad T41.)


Which Mac?

>
> Regardless, the characteristics of current Macs have no real bearing the
> upcoming iPhone -- the iPod is probably more relevant, although only
> partially relevant. Only time will tell how well the iPhone measures up
> to and will do against offerings from established major cellular
> manufacturers. I would frankly be surprised if the iPhone amounts to
> more than a niche product, with small market share like the Mac (not the
> iPod). Or was that what you meant? ;)


The same was said by a few when the iPod came out.
I'll let you know how it works when I get mine. The current "major
offerings" are dismal. The industry needed a shakeup.

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Kurt

2007-03-15, 10:33 pm

In article <elmop-046201. 12195715032007@nntp1
.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <labolide-F85925.08380815032007@news.giganews.com>,
> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> He owns and uses a computer, obviously, but the rest of it is all in his
> mind.
>
> Navas would tell you all sorts of stories, on the thought that you might
> actually believe him.


I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Would be truly sad if
he were presenting himself as something he's not. Doesn't bother me
either way.

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sw

2007-03-15, 10:33 pm

In article <labolide-67672A.12571815032007@news.giganews.com>,
Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:

> In article <elmop-046201. 12195715032007@nntp1
.usenetserver.com>,
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>
> I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Would be truly sad if
> he were presenting himself as something he's not. Doesn't bother me
> either way.


I doubt he uses Mac. It is like his claim that writing wiki is equal to
writing decertation.
John Navas

2007-03-16, 12:33 pm

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-DA9136.12545515032007@news.giganews.com>:

>In article < 63tiv2lnotabn9v6648p
0pdps7okq4stoh@4ax.com>,


> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>Which Mac?


What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How far
back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
personal ThinkPad? ;)

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Q
>
Kurt

2007-03-16, 3:33 pm

In article < feflv21v6n4raq0r39ve
i2timkegahit4f@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:54:55 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-DA9136.12545515032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
>
> What possible relevance or importance would that have in this context?
> I've used lots of different Macs. Do you want a complete list? How far
> back must I go? Do you also want the model numbers of the Sun
> workstation, all the non-Mac Intel boxes, and the configuration of my
> personal ThinkPad? ;)


So you don't actually own any Macs.

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John Navas

2007-03-17, 7:33 am

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-F06FE0.13131616032007@news.giganews.com>:

>In article < feflv21v6n4raq0r39ve
i2timkegahit4f@4ax.com>,
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>So you don't actually own any Macs.


I didn't say that. Read more carefully.

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Q
>
Kurt

2007-03-17, 7:33 am

In article < secmv2h5o1cqs6kdp094
kcsimqnch53ar0@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-F06FE0.13131616032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
> I didn't say that. Read more carefully.


You insist on speaking obliquely. What's the big deal?

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John Navas

2007-03-17, 7:33 am

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:15:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
in <labolide-D9E4D6.17154016032007@news.giganews.com>:

>In article < secmv2h5o1cqs6kdp094
kcsimqnch53ar0@4ax.com>,
> John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>You insist on speaking obliquely. What's the big deal?


lack of relevance. Waste of time.

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Kurt

2007-03-17, 7:33 am

In article < lkdmv2hkf5nj3vhg2rda
f1tvha0v6knhn8@4ax.com>,
John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 17:15:40 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote
> in <labolide-D9E4D6.17154016032007@news.giganews.com>:
>
>
> lack of relevance. Waste of time.


Yet enough time to write mini dissertations on the matter.

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Andy S

2007-03-19, 12:33 pm

>< karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net> wrote in message
> news:ua0gv259l29l475
q072uf4tfh7v8hfar9i@
4ax.com...
> Finally worked my way up to a Vice President; and got satisfaction for
> Cingular sending txt message SPAM to an account that had txt messaging
> deactivated.
>
> They went through many interatiions.
>
> First the CSRs said it was an Administrative Message
>
> Then the head of the "Office of the President" said it was a Marketing
> Message.
>
> Today the VP called it an accident..
>
>

Here is what you need to know about this issue.
Cingular/AT&T has the ok to send SMS to you.

Read the following
a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your wireless
phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone number -
unless you have given prior express permission for the call or the call is
made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is necessary in a situation
that affects the health and safety of consumers. There is a limited
exception allowing cell phone companies to contact their own subscribers.
b.. If you have registered your cell phone number on the National
Do-Not-Call Registry, no one may make a telephone solicitation to that
telephone number, unless you have given prior express permission for the
solicitation or have an established business relationship with the caller.
If you tell a company not to call again - even if it has a business
relationship with you - that company is prohibited from calling you with
solicitations.
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SonyEricsson W300i CINGULAR NATION SINCE MARCH 2006


clifto

2007-03-19, 3:33 pm

Andy S wrote:
> Read the following
> a.. No one may use an automatic dialing machine to call your wireless
> phone number - including to send a text message to that telephone number -
> unless you have given prior express permission for the call or the call is
> made for an emergency purpose, i.e., the call is necessary in a situation
> that affects the health and safety of consumers. There is a limited
> exception allowing cell phone companies to contact their own subscribers.


Unfortunately, all entities with whom you have a business relationship
are exempt.

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