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Jane

2007-04-05, 10:33 pm

Does the information from the SIM card get loaded into the phone's
memory somewhere when the phone is powered on?

I ask because every time I turn my phone on and try to access my
Address Book it takes almost a full minute of "Please Wait" until the
Address Book comes up. I have my AB entries stored to the SIM card.

If I don't access the AB after I power up the phone, and try to 'quick
dial' an entry in my AB it tells me it can't find it.

John Navas

2007-04-06, 4:33 am

On 5 Apr 2007 17:16:03 -0700, "Jane" < googlemail2003@yahoo
.com> wrote in
<1175818563.740691.56700@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:

>Does the information from the SIM card get loaded into the phone's
>memory somewhere when the phone is powered on?
>
>I ask because every time I turn my phone on and try to access my
>Address Book it takes almost a full minute of "Please Wait" until the
>Address Book comes up. I have my AB entries stored to the SIM card.
>
>If I don't access the AB after I power up the phone, and try to 'quick
>dial' an entry in my AB it tells me it can't find it.


What phone???

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Jane

2007-04-06, 10:33 am

On Apr 5, 11:53 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2007 17:16:03 -0700, "Jane" <googlemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <1175818563.740691.56...@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:
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> What phone???
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> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>


GoPhone C139

John Navas

2007-04-06, 10:33 am

On 6 Apr 2007 05:42:38 -0700, "Jane" < googlemail2003@yahoo
.com> wrote in
<1175863358.007513.117590@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:

>On Apr 5, 11:53 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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>GoPhone C139


Not a phone I'm familiar with -- perhaps someone else can help.

Have you tried your SIM in a different phone (e.g., at a Cingular
dealer)?

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Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>
Jane

2007-04-06, 10:33 pm

On Apr 6, 10:50 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2007 05:42:38 -0700, "Jane" <googlemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <1175863358.007513.117...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
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> Not a phone I'm familiar with -- perhaps someone else can help.
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> Have you tried your SIM in a different phone (e.g., at a Cingular
> dealer)?
>
> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>


Yup. They sent me another phone but same results. There's either a
problem with the SIM card or this is the way it's supposed to work -
which would be a real pain.

John Navas

2007-04-06, 10:33 pm

On 6 Apr 2007 14:05:25 -0700, "Jane" < googlemail2003@yahoo
.com> wrote in
<1175893524.992119.230850@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:

>On Apr 6, 10:50 am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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>Yup. They sent me another phone but same results. There's either a
>problem with the SIM card or this is the way it's supposed to work -
>which would be a real pain.


I meant _really different_ phone, as in not the same brand and model.

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Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
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Q
>
Todd Allcock

2007-04-07, 4:33 am

At 06 Apr 2007 14:05:25 -0700 Jane wrote:

> Yup. They sent me another phone but same results. There's either a
> problem with the SIM card or this is the way it's supposed to work -
> which would be a real pain.


Ahhh, the good ol' days. My first GSM phone (a Nokia 8290) worked that
way- it had no internal phonebook memory- just the SIM card. It took
about 20-30 seconds after startup to be able to access the phonebook.

Of course, that phone is now 7 years old!

Doesn't the Moto have a memory you can copy the SIM to? That should
allow you to access the phonebook immediately.

Alternatively, just avoid turning the phone off- modern "simple" phones
usually last a week or more on a single charge. I hardly ever noticed
the startup delay on my old Nokia because I rarely, if ever, turned it off.






John Navas

2007-04-07, 3:33 pm

On 6 Apr 2007 05:42:38 -0700, "Jane" < googlemail2003@yahoo
.com> wrote in
<1175863358.007513.117590@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:

>On Apr 5, 11:53 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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>GoPhone C139


Have you checked the manual and the menus to see if there is an option
to store phonebook entries in the phone or on the SIM? If so, you may
be able to copy SIM entries to the phone (and then delete them from the
SIM to avoid duplicates).

--
Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>
3Gfreak

2007-04-07, 3:33 pm

On Apr 7, 12:38 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2007 05:42:38 -0700, "Jane" <googlemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <1175863358.007513.117...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
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> Have you checked the manual and the menus to see if there is an option
> to store phonebook entries in the phone or on the SIM? If so, you may
> be able to copy SIM entries to the phone (and then delete them from the
> SIM to avoid duplicates).
>
> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>



Nothing new here, the C139 is such a basic phone that the speed is not
what other phones are. But what it is doing - it is loading the
numbers into memory, it should be faster once you access the contact
list a second time.

Hope this help!
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Todd Allcock

2007-04-07, 3:33 pm

At 07 Apr 2007 17:38:03 +0000 John Navas wrote:

> Have you checked the manual and the menus to see if there is an option
> to store phonebook entries in the phone or on the SIM? If so, you may
> be able to copy SIM entries to the phone (and then delete them from the
> SIM to avoid duplicates).


Normally I'd suggest rather than deleting the numbers from the SIM, see
if the phone has a "memory-only" option for displaying phonebook entries
(many of my Nokias have had SIM-only, Memory-only, or SIM+Memory as
display options.)

Preserving the SIM contents is a low-tech contacts backup if the phone
ever goes belly-up.

Jane

2007-04-07, 10:33 pm

On Apr 7, 1:38 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> On 6 Apr 2007 05:42:38 -0700, "Jane" <googlemail2...@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <1175863358.007513.117...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>:
>
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> Have you checked the manual and the menus to see if there is an option
> to store phonebook entries in the phone or on the SIM? If so, you may
> be able to copy SIM entries to the phone (and then delete them from the
> SIM to avoid duplicates).
>
> --
> Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q
>


Yes I checked the manual. It says I have to save the numbers to the
SIM card to use the quick dial function. I think I'll just leave the
phone turned on.

Thanks anyway.

Fat Ass Fred

2007-04-09, 12:33 pm

On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:02:06 -0600, Todd Allcock
< elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:

>Doesn't the Moto have a memory you can copy the SIM to? That should
>allow you to access the phonebook immediately.


That's what I would recommend. Personally, I have gotten to the point
that when I get a new phone and Cingular tries to copy my phone
numbers over, I tell them PLEASE DON'T! I've got software on my
computer and Data Cables / BlueTooth for all my phones, I don't need
them to copy my address books over for me.... When they copy it to the
SIM card, it creates 1 entry per phone number and all upper case
usually. Then I end up having several phone book entries for the same
person... Not to mention, their copying process now only copies the
first 10-15 numbers and stops.... It'd make since that the SIM card
access is slower than on-board RAM.

>Alternatively, just avoid turning the phone off- modern "simple" phones
>usually last a week or more on a single charge. I hardly ever noticed
>the startup delay on my old Nokia because I rarely, if ever, turned it off.

Actually, this depends on the phone its self. While I've yet to see a
phone that you can't actually leave on and talk on while its being
charged (eliminating the need to turn it off for charging...) You
still are recommended to turn you phone off and back on once a day by
Cingular, depending on the modal and brand. Certain phones if you
don't turn them off and wait a few minutes, then turn them back on at
least once a day, the phone starts to lock up on you (The OS crashes
basically). Also, when you turn your phone off and back on, it
re-sync's with the towers and Cingular some times says that fixes some
of the problems with service.
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