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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-12, 10:33 am |
| I'm about to come into a Cingular 8525 phone,
and have a decision to make.
1. Use it, then sell it on ebay when iPhone comes out in ~ 2 months.
($350 ?)
2. Sell it new in Box for top dollar on ebay. ($425 ?)
Anyone with experience with this "SmartPhone " ?
I do know one needs to ask for the SmartPhone Connect Plan (at $19.99
/month); rather than be sold a more expensive data plan.
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| Don Udel \(ETC\) 2007-04-12, 10:33 am |
| I have the 8125 version of the phone. It's a great phone. Use it at your
own risk though, because the iPhone will be major step down in functionality
(IMHO).
The 8525 adds 3G. Lots of software available for it. I also have the
$19.99 plan which works great. Voice Command from Microsoft really gives it
alot of flexibility. Screen is very good (get a protector). RF has been
been better than many of other phones I've tried. Add a memory card and you
have a good MP3/movie player. Add a bluetooth GPS (Holux makes a nice one)
and GPS software (I like iGuidance) and you have a very competent GPS. Tons
of tweeks available to really customize the phone to do what you want and
how you want. WiFi works well. Battery life is good. Bluetooth works well.
Camera is ok, but not many phones have great cameras. Syncing via
ActiveSync has been trouble free (especially over BT). Friend of mine got
one and he loves it. I've not met anyone unhappy with this phone. I've
kept this phone longer than most. I would certainly upgrade to an 8525, but
Cingular does not provide 3G in my area, so for me, there is little
advantage over the 8125. I'll get an 8535 with WM6 though.
If you are going to sell it on eBay, better move quick. Cingular should be
dropping prices soon.
Don
< karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net> wrote in message
news:b2ds13943eb3s6k
v7tmqk906jaohkv1nn9@
4ax.com...
> I'm about to come into a Cingular 8525 phone,
> and have a decision to make.
>
> 1. Use it, then sell it on ebay when iPhone comes out in ~ 2 months.
> ($350 ?)
>
> 2. Sell it new in Box for top dollar on ebay. ($425 ?)
>
>
> Anyone with experience with this "SmartPhone " ?
>
>
> I do know one needs to ask for the SmartPhone Connect Plan (at $19.99
> /month); rather than be sold a more expensive data plan.
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| Todd Allcock 2007-04-12, 3:33 pm |
| At 12 Apr 2007 11:13:50 -0400 Don Udel (ETC) wrote:
> I have the 8125 version of the phone. It's a great phone. Use it at
> your
> own risk though, because the iPhone will be major step down in
> functionality
> (IMHO).
That won't matter to the OP- he's an Apple man through and through. If
you cut him, he bleeds cider instead of blood! ;-)
I'll second your entire post, Don. I was going to write a similar one,
but
you saved me the trouble! I have the T-Mobile MDA (T-Mo's version of the
8125, which are both HTC "Wizards.") Since T-Mo hasn't gone 3G yet, they
don't offer a version of the 8525 (aka the HTC Tytn.)
If one doesn't mind a few small bugs, "leaked" pre-release versions of
WM6 are all over the net for these HTC devices. (Check out xda-
developers.com for info.) I've been using the "X-plore 1.1" ROM for a
few days, and it's good- certainly the least buggy WM6 version of the 4
or 5 I've tried. (Probably no more buggy than the "real" WM5 T-Mo ROM
that came with my device!)
WM6 is certainly "prettier," FINALLY adds HTML e-mail to the Messaging app,
and uses the new internet sharing app (instead of "Modem Link") that
makes using the device as a GPRS modem much easier- pretty much plug-n-
play. Memory handling seems a little better- I see less memory "leaking"
from available memory throughout the day.
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| Don Udel \(ETC\) 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
|
"Todd Allcock" < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in message
news:evm240$rf4$2@ai
oe.org...
> At 12 Apr 2007 11:13:50 -0400 Don Udel (ETC) wrote:
>
> That won't matter to the OP- he's an Apple man through and through. If
> you cut him, he bleeds cider instead of blood! ;-)
>
> I'll second your entire post, Don. I was going to write a similar one,
> but
> you saved me the trouble! I have the T-Mobile MDA (T-Mo's version of the
> 8125, which are both HTC "Wizards.") Since T-Mo hasn't gone 3G yet, they
> don't offer a version of the 8525 (aka the HTC Tytn.)
>
> If one doesn't mind a few small bugs, "leaked" pre-release versions of
> WM6 are all over the net for these HTC devices. (Check out xda-
> developers.com for info.) I've been using the "X-plore 1.1" ROM for a
> few days, and it's good- certainly the least buggy WM6 version of the 4
> or 5 I've tried. (Probably no more buggy than the "real" WM5 T-Mo ROM
> that came with my device!)
>
> WM6 is certainly "prettier," FINALLY adds HTML e-mail to the Messaging
> app,
>
> and uses the new internet sharing app (instead of "Modem Link") that
> makes using the device as a GPRS modem much easier- pretty much plug-n-
> play. Memory handling seems a little better- I see less memory "leaking"
> from available memory throughout the day.
>
>
Todd,
I realize the OP is an apple bigot ;-) but the truth is (IMHO), that the
iPhone is a step down in functionality from the 8x25. Cingular did a good
thing hooking up with the HTC products. I'll second xda-developers.com!
They were one of the sites I was thinking of when I mentioned there is lots
of software available and registry entries that will make the 8x25 sing and
dance the way YOU want it to.
I'm using WM6 (Crossbow) for another application development project.. I
like the way it handles memory and multi tasking over WM5. The app set it
comes with is also an improvment over WM5 (but then WM5 was an improvement
over WM4!).
The OP is welcome to his iPhone when it comes out. You couldn't get me to
make that switch. He's probably better off never getting a taste of the
8x25 phones and getting his version 1.0 iPhone.
Don
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:26:54 -0400, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
<donudel@ellijay.com> wrote:
>
>"Todd Allcock" < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in message
> news:evm240$rf4$2@ai
oe.org...
>Todd,
>
>I realize the OP is an apple bigot ;-) but the truth is (IMHO), that the
>iPhone is a step down in functionality from the 8x25. Cingular did a good
>thing hooking up with the HTC products. I'll second xda-developers.com!
>They were one of the sites I was thinking of when I mentioned there is lots
>of software available and registry entries that will make the 8x25 sing and
>dance the way YOU want it to.
>
>I'm using WM6 (Crossbow) for another application development project.. I
>like the way it handles memory and multi tasking over WM5. The app set it
>comes with is also an improvment over WM5 (but then WM5 was an improvement
>over WM4!).
>
>The OP is welcome to his iPhone when it comes out. You couldn't get me to
>make that switch. He's probably better off never getting a taste of the
>8x25 phones and getting his version 1.0 iPhone.
>
>Don
>
The WM5 on the 8525 might as well be Vista Mobile, its such a piece of
Bloatware, as opposed to a user friendly Palm OS or IPhone OS.
It'll be on Ebay tomorrow, as soon as Cingular provides the SIM it was
supposed to come with.
Even though it runs fine on the $19.99 SmartPhone Connect Plan,
Cingular CSRs are told to sell you the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimited,
and lie that the cheaper plan wont handle true html.
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| Scott 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:26et13ddj7rdel1
8plirv94vdcqh1n2t5b@
4ax.com:
>
> Even though it runs fine on the $19.99 SmartPhone Connect Plan,
> Cingular CSRs are told to sell you the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimited,
> and lie that the cheaper plan wont handle true html.
>
Oooo- let me guess- more secret insider information that you have acquired?
The Great Cellular Conspiracy continues...
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:34:50 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> news:26et13ddj7rdel1
8plirv94vdcqh1n2t5b@
4ax.com:
>
>
>
>Oooo- let me guess- more secret insider information that you have acquired?
>
>The Great Cellular Conspiracy continues...
Sorry, merely sitting in a VP's office while he called his Supervisor
of CSRs, and then reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.
If you weren't so busy trashing Cingular, you could learn a thing or
two there.
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...d=206810#M26984
Cingular - Worst Cellular company there is, except for all the others.
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| Scott 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:amjt13tg8rlfvd0
diqn4tmmuai0cajnpka@
4ax.com:
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:34:50 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
>
> Sorry, merely sitting in a VP's office while he called his Supervisor
> of CSRs, and then reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.
Really? I met with the Pope today and had lunch with J-Lo.
>
> If you weren't so busy trashing Cingular, you could learn a thing or
> two there.
When have I trashed Cingular? Don't take my dislike for your lies and
Navas' lack of a clue for anything against Cingular. You need to come up
for air ocassionally- nobody was meant to have their head up their a$$ for
such a lengthy period of time.
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:46:25 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> news:amjt13tg8rlfvd0
diqn4tmmuai0cajnpka@
4ax.com:
>
>
>Really? I met with the Pope today and had lunch with J-Lo.
>
>
>When have I trashed Cingular? Don't take my dislike for your lies and
>Navas' lack of a clue for anything against Cingular. You need to come up
>for air ocassionally- nobody was meant to have their head up their a$$ for
>such a lengthy period of time.
>
I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
insults. You're just like Navas.
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| Scott 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:jelt13lad1drbl6
92d1jcki6bepv73qc70@
4ax.com:
>
>
> I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
> instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
> insults. You're just like Navas.
>
What kind of URL are you looking for, moron? How would I refute such an
obvious lie with a URL?
The fact is that no URL is neede for you- you trash your own credibility
with your conspiracy theories and very baltent and obvious lies.
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:10:22 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> news:jelt13lad1drbl6
92d1jcki6bepv73qc70@
4ax.com:
>
>
>
>What kind of URL are you looking for, moron? How would I refute such an
>obvious lie with a URL?
>
>The fact is that no URL is neede for you- you trash your own credibility
>with your conspiracy theories and very baltent and obvious lies.
Thats right continue with childish insults, and make sure you delete
the link I put in.
reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.
If Scott wqasn't so busy trashing Cingular,, he could learn a thing or
two there.
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...d=206810#M26984
Where's your URL with different info on the 8525 ??
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| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:kgpt13hehq698gi
0gm7h3iskvcvptmm1pr@
4ax.com:
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:10:22 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thats right continue with childish insults, and make sure you delete
> the link I put in.
>
> reading Cingular's own online Discussion Groups.
>
> If Scott wqasn't so busy trashing Cingular,, he could learn a thing or
> two there.
Lies, but you'll just clip out the truth- you always do.
>
> http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...ngular&message.
> id=26984&query.id=206810#M26984
\
An unmoderated message board is hardly authoritative, you twit. And it
certainly is not stated as company policy.
I thought you heard about this in the VP's office??
>
>
> Where's your URL with different info on the 8525 ??
>
>
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| John Navas 2007-04-13, 4:33 am |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:00:03 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
< jelt13lad1drbl692d1j
cki6bepv73qc70@4ax.com>:
>I always know when I'm accurate with my comments cause the other side
>instead of coming up with a URL to refute me resorts to childish
>insults. ...
That is indeed strong evidence. Funny how those doing the insults don't
see how they only serve to make themselves look bad.
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-13, 4:33 am |
| On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 22:35:56 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
[color=darkred]
> karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> news:kgpt13hehq698gi
0gm7h3iskvcvptmm1pr@
4ax.com:
>
>
>Lies, but you'll just clip out the truth- you always do.
>
>\
>
>An unmoderated message board is hardly authoritative, you twit. And it
>certainly is not stated as company policy.
>
>I thought you heard about this in the VP's office??
>
Still with childish insults instead of any information to the
contrary.
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-13, 4:33 am |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:24:16 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:00:03 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
>< jelt13lad1drbl692d1j
cki6bepv73qc70@4ax.com>:
>
>
>That is indeed strong evidence. Funny how those doing the insults don't
>see how they only serve to make themselves look bad.
Exactly, except often Navas is guilty of same when he is proven wrong,
as in integrating the ATTWS network into Cingular which he had told us
would be easy and done by the end of 2006, but now tells us its not
done yet.
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-13, 4:33 am |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:22:51 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:31:01 -0500, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
>< amjt13tg8rlfvd0diqn4
tmmuai0cajnpka@4ax.com>:
>
>
>Unfortunately, there's a good deal of misinformation there; e.g., the
>claim you can't do streaming data through MEdia wap.cingular -- I'm
>streaming both Internet radio and video.
If you continue on you find there is a difference between the MediaNet
or SmartPhone Connect (which go through a Cingular Proxy) and the more
expensive PDA Connect which allows direct Internet Connection.
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| Don Udel \(ETC\) 2007-04-13, 7:33 am |
|
< karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net> wrote in message
news:26et13ddj7rdel1
8plirv94vdcqh1n2t5b@
4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:26:54 -0400, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
> <donudel@ellijay.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> The WM5 on the 8525 might as well be Vista Mobile, its such a piece of
> Bloatware, as opposed to a user friendly Palm OS or IPhone OS.
>
> It'll be on Ebay tomorrow, as soon as Cingular provides the SIM it was
> supposed to come with.
>
> Even though it runs fine on the $19.99 SmartPhone Connect Plan,
> Cingular CSRs are told to sell you the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimited,
> and lie that the cheaper plan wont handle true html.
Why bother to ask if you had already made up you mind? Exactly where is
Palm OS headed? Even Treo has seen the light. For integrating with a
Windows environment, WM beats Palm hands down. iPhone OS, who knows?
iPhone extensibility? I'll believe it when I see it.
The $19.99 plan works fine. I got signed up at the local Cingular store
across the road. No one pushed a $39.99 plan. I think even a casual review
of most Cingular related newsgroups will inform any interested party that
the $19.99 plan works just fine.
Don
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| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:e4eu13lsf71frv3
n4huvesf29le2t8pjvn@
4ax.com:
>
> Still with childish insults instead of any information to the
> contrary.
>
Nothing to counter- the opinion of an average user (which is what you
precious link was) is hardly authoritative, as you claim it is.
| |
|
| John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote in
news:pt4u13l4qd2qc61
so3h52vb7c1t9i2bq1b@
4ax.com:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:00:03 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> < jelt13lad1drbl692d1j
cki6bepv73qc70@4ax.com>:
>
>
> That is indeed strong evidence.
The only thing it is strong revidence of (where you are both concerned) is
your inabiility to engage in a dialogue, Throw in the lies and attempts to
mislead that both of you are guilty of and you have a recipe for people
thinking very unhighly of you. The only reason some of respond is to
prevent the casual reader of these groups from thinking that your opinions
and fables are actually fact.
> Funny how those doing the insults don't
> see how they only serve to make themselves look bad.
>
Now that's funny coming from you.
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-13, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:20:13 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
> karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
> news:e4eu13lsf71frv3
n4huvesf29le2t8pjvn@
4ax.com:
>
>
>
>Nothing to counter- the opinion of an average user (which is what you
>precious link was) is hardly authoritative, as you claim it is.
And why do you not let other readers decide for themselves and NOT cut
out the link. And maybe read the WHOLE thread, rather than one post
(as you apparently did).
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...d=206810#M26984
Afraid that it contradicts your anti-Cincular rantings?
| |
| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-13, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:24:54 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote in
> news:pt4u13l4qd2qc61
so3h52vb7c1t9i2bq1b@
4ax.com:
>
>
>The only thing it is strong revidence of (where you are both concerned) is
>your inabiility to engage in a dialogue, Throw in the lies and attempts to
>mislead that both of you are guilty of and you have a recipe for people
>thinking very unhighly of you. The only reason some of respond is to
>prevent the casual reader of these groups from thinking that your opinions
>and fables are actually fact.
>
>
>Now that's funny coming from you.
I'm not the one thowing childish insults.
| |
| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-13, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:21:16 -0400, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
<donudel@ellijay.com> wrote:
>
>< karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net> wrote in message
> news:26et13ddj7rdel1
8plirv94vdcqh1n2t5b@
4ax.com...
>
>Why bother to ask if you had already made up you mind? Exactly where is
>Palm OS headed? Even Treo has seen the light. For integrating with a
>Windows environment, WM beats Palm hands down. iPhone OS, who knows?
>iPhone extensibility? I'll believe it when I see it.
>
>The $19.99 plan works fine. I got signed up at the local Cingular store
>across the road. No one pushed a $39.99 plan. I think even a casual review
>of most Cingular related newsgroups will inform any interested party that
>the $19.99 plan works just fine.
>
>Don
>
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...d=206810#M26984
Exactly, just that you have to go through a PROXY with the cheaper
plan, and you'd get better throughput connecting directly to the
Internet whioch requires the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimted Plan.
Indeed if you go online at Cingular.com, log in to "MY Account" and
configure it to show the 8525 as your phone, and then click on "Add
Services", the ONLY pure data plan shown is the $19.99 SmartPhone
Connect plan. Lots of plans showing a finite number of MediaNet
megabytes with a finite or unlimited number of TXT Messages.
But with a 8525 why use txt message when you can use email,
and its free to SEND a txt message.
You ask 4 different CSRs which data plan you can have or should have
with the 8525, and you'd get 5 different answers. Yesterday one
started reading me a script about buying hardware and their
running a credit check.
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| Scott 2007-04-13, 10:33 am |
| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:mg3v13tiq9iru2i
npm0tjus7i3oh903elg@
4ax.com:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:20:13 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
>
> And why do you not let other readers decide for themselves and NOT cut
> out the link. And maybe read the WHOLE thread, rather than one post
> (as you apparently did).
I read the whole thing- nothing but consumer opinions. Are you really as
stupid as you act? I cut the link (and other portions of the post because
they did not pertain to my response.
>
> Afraid that it contradicts your anti-Cincular rantings?
>
What anti-Cingular rantings? My rants are not against Cingular- they are
against your fabrications and Navas' lack of a clue.
Quit being so delusional and childish.
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| Scott 2007-04-13, 10:33 am |
| karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
news:0l3v135ekqpm6ne
cqb2nlftv2vtbrskdm4@
4ax.com:
> On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 06:24:54 -0500, Scott <how.do@you.do> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'm not the one thowing childish insults.
>
No- you are the one making things up.
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| Thurman 2007-04-13, 10:33 am |
|
< karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net> wrote in message
news:b2ds13943eb3s6k
v7tmqk906jaohkv1nn9@
4ax.com...
> I'm about to come into a Cingular 8525 phone,
> and have a decision to make.
>
> 1. Use it, then sell it on ebay when iPhone comes out in ~ 2 months.
> ($350 ?)
>
> 2. Sell it new in Box for top dollar on ebay. ($425 ?)
>
>
> Anyone with experience with this "SmartPhone " ?
It isn't a Smartphone, it's a Cellular Pocket PC; now known as a Windows
Mobile 5 (6) Professional. basic test is a touch screen. Smartphones don't
have touch screens.
The capabilities far exceed the ability of most cell phone users. I've had
mine five months can only find 'nits' to complain about. If you are a power
user, you have a wonderful learning curve ahead. If not, enjoy the iPhone
for what appears to be 3 hours at a time. ;-o
> I do know one needs to ask for the SmartPhone Connect Plan (at $19.99
> /month); rather than be sold a more expensive data plan.
I got unlimited Internet for the 8525 plus tethering for $39/mon which I
understand has been increased.
On today's website PDA connect is $45.
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| John Navas 2007-04-13, 12:33 pm |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:02:31 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
< 86eu13l8e7fpoocgl1go
opdirqq2d4k7lq@4ax.com>:
>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:24:16 GMT, John Navas
>< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>Exactly, except often Navas is guilty of same when he is proven wrong,
>as in integrating the ATTWS network into Cingular which he had told us
>would be easy and done by the end of 2006, but now tells us its not
>done yet.
Not true. And funny how you fail to post any proof, the very thing you
accuse Scott of doing. ;)
--
Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| John Navas 2007-04-13, 12:33 pm |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:05:27 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
< n9eu139mg0mflevrkb47
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>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:22:51 GMT, John Navas
>< spamfilter1@navasgro
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>If you continue on you find there is a difference between the MediaNet
>or SmartPhone Connect (which go through a Cingular Proxy) and the more
>expensive PDA Connect which allows direct Internet Connection.
I'm streaming on MEdia.
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| John Navas 2007-04-13, 12:33 pm |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:15:23 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
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>On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 07:21:16 -0400, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
><donudel@ellijay.com> wrote:
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>Exactly, just that you have to go through a PROXY with the cheaper
>plan, and you'd get better throughput connecting directly to the
>Internet whioch requires the $39.99 PDA Connect Unlimted Plan.
The only difference in speed comes for the optional data compression on
Data (PDA/Laptop) Connect. Speed is otherwise the same.
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In article < i3av13lqt3n9g0dp7sf8
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John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
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> Not true. And funny how you fail to post any proof, the very thing you
> accuse Scott of doing. ;)
Rubbish.
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| In article <evnp3l02uiq@enews4.newsguy.com>,
"Don Udel \(ETC\)" <donudel@ellijay.com> wrote:
> Why bother to ask if you had already made up you mind? Exactly where is
> Palm OS headed? Even Treo has seen the light. For integrating with a
> Windows environment, WM beats Palm hands down. iPhone OS, who knows?
> iPhone extensibility? I'll believe it when I see it.
But many of us are happy not integrating with Windows, or having
anything to do with it.
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-04-14, 7:33 am |
| On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:28:38 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
wrote:
>In article <evnp3l02uiq@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> "Don Udel \(ETC\)" <donudel@ellijay.com> wrote:
>
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>But many of us are happy not integrating with Windows, or having
>anything to do with it.
Apple has learned that when anyone can sell software for your phone,
some may in a rush to market fail to properlyor completely follow
programming guidelines, and deliver a product than can cause other
phone functions to mis-perform. Treo's and Windows Mobile are all too
likely to Lock Up from this effect.
You lose extensibility, you gain stability. Pick your poison.
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| Todd Allcock 2007-04-14, 10:33 am |
| At 14 Apr 2007 11:15:26 +0000 karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote:
> some may in a rush to market fail to properlyor completely follow
> programming guidelines, and deliver a product than can cause other
> phone functions to mis-perform. Treo's and Windows Mobile are all too
> likely to Lock Up from this effect.
>
> You lose extensibility, you gain stability. Pick your poison.
But that's the point, isn't it? With WinMobile, Palm, or Symbian I CAN
pick my poison, or choose not to- I can weigh the benefits of added
functionality vs. the "poison" of potential instabilitity. With iPhone,
I WON'T get a bite at the poison apple...
I'm posting this from a mildly unstable app right now. It's a freeware
mail app with an excellent newsreader that very occasionally locks my
phone up as tight as the proverbial drum, but for price, features and
flexibility, (HTML e-mail, newsreader and RSS feed support) I'm much
happier with QMail than without it.
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| 3Gfreak 2007-04-15, 3:33 pm |
| On Apr 12, 8:33 am, karlkrand...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> I'm about to come into a Cingular 8525 phone,
> and have a decision to make.
>
> 1. Use it, then sell it on ebay when iPhone comes out in ~ 2 months.
> ($350 ?)
>
> 2. Sell it new in Box for top dollar on ebay. ($425 ?)
>
> Anyone with experience with this "SmartPhone " ?
>
> I do know one needs to ask for the SmartPhone Connect Plan (at $19.99
> /month); rather than be sold a more expensive data plan.
The 8525 ISA buggy phone and has been plagued by screen issues since
launch. I don't know if anyone would even buy it except for spare
parts - course you could pawn it off on someone who doesn't have a
clue about the history of the phone.
3GFreak
www.mobilevertigo.com
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| John Navas 2007-04-17, 10:33 am |
| On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:15:26 GMT, karlkrandall@sbcglob
al.net wrote in
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>Apple has learned that when anyone can sell software for your phone,
>some may in a rush to market fail to properlyor completely follow
>programming guidelines, and deliver a product than can cause other
>phone functions to mis-perform. Treo's and Windows Mobile are all too
>likely to Lock Up from this effect.
>
>You lose extensibility, you gain stability. Pick your poison.
Not necessarily. Java was designed from the ground up to avoid that
problem, part of why many phones feature Java (J2ME) support. So it's
more an excuse for lock-in than a valid reason. Much like not
supporting other portable players in iTunes.
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