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Blackjack with WIFI
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| My contract is expiring soon, and I like the Blackjack, but really want WIFI
which the Blackjack lacks. Where would one find information about the next
phone model from Samsung (or others)?
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| John Navas 2007-04-23, 10:33 pm |
| On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:19:28 GMT, "Jeff" <nada@nowhere.com> wrote in
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>My contract is expiring soon, and I like the Blackjack, but really want WIFI
>which the Blackjack lacks. Where would one find information about the next
>phone model from Samsung (or others)?
Websites like PhoneScoop.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
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| Jeff wrote:
> My contract is expiring soon, and I like the Blackjack, but really want WIFI
> which the Blackjack lacks. Where would one find information about the next
> phone model from Samsung (or others)?
There aren't a lot of phones with WiFi.
Look at the HTC 8525. It lacks HSDPA 3.6, but it has HSDPA 1.8, and it
has WiFi.
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| Thurman 2007-04-24, 4:33 am |
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"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> Jeff wrote:
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> There aren't a lot of phones with WiFi.
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> Look at the HTC 8525. It lacks HSDPA 3.6, but it has HSDPA 1.8, and it has
> WiFi.
I've got both the Blackjack and 8525. The 8525 is a great 'communicator' but
requires some tech expertise even though it has lots of buttons, good
implementation of Mobile 5 (soon to be Mobile 6). The camera capabilities
alone would cost $200+ in a standalone.
The Blackjack engineers did a better job of creating a cellphone for a
larger market, but it's not as intuitive. With fewer buttons doing multiple
functions, it can be cumbersome navigating.
I seldom use WiFi; most often it's during peak cell traffic periods when
large graphics like maps or radar images crawl.
As of a week ago, in the DFW area, using CNet's download benchmarks, the
8525 rated 1.083 Mbs:
http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html
I start testing LBS apps on the Blackjack tomorrow.
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| "Thurman" wrote ...
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> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:462d3f34$0$2721
9$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
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> I've got both the Blackjack and 8525. The 8525 is a great 'communicator'
> but requires some tech expertise even though it has lots of buttons, good
> implementation of Mobile 5 (soon to be Mobile 6). The camera capabilities
> alone would cost $200+ in a standalone.
>
> The Blackjack engineers did a better job of creating a cellphone for a
> larger market, but it's not as intuitive. With fewer buttons doing
> multiple functions, it can be cumbersome navigating.
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> I seldom use WiFi; most often it's during peak cell traffic periods when
> large graphics like maps or radar images crawl.
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> As of a week ago, in the DFW area, using CNet's download benchmarks, the
> 8525 rated 1.083 Mbs:
> http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html
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> I start testing LBS apps on the Blackjack tomorrow.
>
Searching the web, I came across a review of the Blackjack Ultra Edition on
a site out of the UK ...
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/0...w_samsung_i600/
It looks like what I want, but there was no indication as to whether it
would be available in the states.
Comments?
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| Jeff wrote:
> Searching the web, I came across a review of the Blackjack Ultra Edition on
> a site out of the UK ...
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> http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/0...w_samsung_i600/
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> It looks like what I want, but there was no indication as to whether it
> would be available in the states.
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> Comments?
You won't see it in the U.S. anytime soon, due to pressure from the
competition. While Samsung could sell it unlocked and unsubsidized, as
Nokia is doing with some models, without a carrier behind it I don't
think it'll come to the U.S.
Also note that it isn't a world phone, at least the version sold n the
UK, as it lacks GSM 800 MHz. So even if you bought one over there, it
wouldn't be usable in the U.S., except on 1900 MHz only, which is mainly
T-Mobile.
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| Thurman wrote:
> I seldom use WiFi; most often it's during peak cell traffic periods when
> large graphics like maps or radar images crawl.
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> As of a week ago, in the DFW area, using CNet's download benchmarks, the
> 8525 rated 1.083 Mbs:
> http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html
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> I start testing LBS apps on the Blackjack tomorrow.
I'd like a phone with WiFi and GPS so I could stop carrying a PDA as
well as a phone. Actually I don't really care about HSDPA, as there is
so much free WiFi available, that for my needs I wouldn't pay $50 per
month for high speed data anyway.
Alas, no such animal yet, except the $750 Nokia N95. Of course I'd
prefer all this in a CDMA handset, since GSM coverage in my area (San
Francisco Bay Area) is still significantly poorer than CDMA coverage.
However within a couple of years, the experts say that GSM coverage
nationwide will catch up with CDMA coverage, so maybe by that time
they're will be a handset for $400 or so that has the necessary features.
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| John Navas 2007-04-28, 3:33 pm |
| On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:45:06 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 462e17f4$0$27248$742
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>Alas, no such animal yet, except the $750 Nokia N95. Of course I'd
>prefer all this in a CDMA handset, since GSM coverage in my area (San
>Francisco Bay Area) is still significantly poorer than CDMA coverage.
In fact AT&T/Cingular has the best overall coverage in the San Francisco
Bay Area, followed by Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint (in that order).
That said, no one carrier has the best coverage in all areas, so you
should check coverage in areas you care about most before selecting a
carrier.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
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| "John Navas" ...
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:45:06 -0700, SMS wrote in:
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> In fact AT&T/Cingular has the best overall coverage in the San Francisco
> Bay Area, followed by Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint (in that order).
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> That said, no one carrier has the best coverage in all areas, so you
> should check coverage in areas you care about most before selecting a
> carrier.
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> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
What does this have to do with Blackjacks and WIFI?
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| Jeff wrote:
> What does this have to do with Blackjacks and WIFI?
It has to do with WiFi, not the Blackjack. I guess it was assumed that
since there is no Blackjack with WiFi, that you might be interested in
other WiFi enabled handsets.
Personally, I wouldn't pay $50/month for high speed data, whether it was
HSDPA or EV-DO, but I would like to have WiFi and GPS in order to stop
carrying my old PDA which has both. Most places I go there is free
Wi-Fi, and I don't have the need to for ubiquitous web access.
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| "SMS" wrote ...
> Jeff wrote:
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> It has to do with WiFi, not the Blackjack. I guess it was assumed that
> since there is no Blackjack with WiFi, that you might be interested in
> other WiFi enabled handsets.
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> Personally, I wouldn't pay $50/month for high speed data, whether it was
> HSDPA or EV-DO, but I would like to have WiFi and GPS in order to stop
> carrying my old PDA which has both. Most places I go there is free Wi-Fi,
> and I don't have the need to for ubiquitous web access.
Appreciate the input. I was really referring to Navas piping in about
coverage in SF.
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| Jeff wrote:
> "SMS" wrote ...
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> Appreciate the input. I was really referring to Navas piping in about
> coverage in SF.
His whole life centers around shilling for Cingular. Must be pretty sad
to not have anything else to do.
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| John Navas 2007-04-30, 3:33 pm |
| On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:12:23 -0500, "Jeff" <nada@nowhere.com> wrote in
<YWlZh.2310$tp5.37@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>:
>"John Navas" ...
[color=darkred]
>What does this have to do with Blackjacks and WIFI?
Good question. Steven dishes out false and misleading CDMA propaganda
even when it's not relevant to the issue at hand.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
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| John Navas 2007-04-30, 3:33 pm |
| On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:20:57 -0500, "Jeff" <nada@nowhere.com> wrote in
<sPnZh.2330$tp5.2117@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>:
>"SMS" wrote ...
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>Appreciate the input. I was really referring to Navas piping in about
>coverage in SF.
In fact I was rebutting Steven's piping in with his usual anti-GSM
pro-CDMA baloney.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
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| John Navas 2007-04-30, 3:33 pm |
| On Mon, 30 Apr 2007 08:31:33 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 46360bd4$0$27158$742
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>Jeff wrote:
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>His whole life centers around shilling for Cingular. Must be pretty sad
>to not have anything else to do.
You've described yourself pretty well -- amazing how much time you spend
on trolling here and dissing AT&T/Cingular given your low regard for it.
Your grudge just goes on and on.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
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