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| John Navas 2007-03-10, 10:33 am |
| Yes, it is possible to connect a computer to the Internet over low-cost
Cingular MEdia with the Motorola RAZR V3xx (aka IZAR), which features
blistering speed in areas with HSDPA coverage (falling back to
EGPRS[EDGE]/GPRS in other areas), but no, not with the procedure I've
documented in the Cingular Wireless FAQ (link in my sig block). (The
latter will result in Error 734.)
Instead, use the method documented below, which works over both
Bluetooth and USB with Windows XP. But first a caveat: You do this
entirely at your own risk! Be sure to check the terms and conditions of
your MEdia package before proceeding.
1. Prepare to install the V3xx "modem":
(a) Bluetooth: I recommend using the Windows XP SP2 Bluetooth
stack, not a third-party Bluetooth stack (e.g., Widcomm).
(b) USB: Be sure to install the Motorola USB Modem driver _before_
connecting the V3xxx. To install drivers, you can either
install Motorola Phone Tools (available at low cost from
shopoem.com) or Cingular Communication Manager (free download
from <http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr> ).
2. Install the V3xx "modem"
(a) Bluetooth: Pair the V3xx with the computer using the Windows
XP SP2 Bluetooth stack, which should install "Standard Modem
over Bluetooth link".
(b) USB: Connect the V3xx to the computer with a standard 5-pin
mini-USB cable, which should install "Motorola USB Modem"
(in my case version 3.4.0.0, 03/22/2006).
3. Configure the V3xx "modem":
(a) Right-click My Computer.
(b) Click Manage.
(c) Click Device Manager.
(d) Right-click the V3xx "modem" (identified above).
(e) Click Advanced tab.
(f) Put in Extra initialization commands:
AT+CGDCONT=1, "IP", "WAP.CINGULAR"
(g) Click OK.
(h) Close Computer Management.
4. Create "dial-up" Connection:
(a) Open Control Panel.
(b) Double-click Network Connections.
(c) Under Network Tasks, click Create a new connection.
(d) When the New Connection Wizard starts, click Next.
(e) Select Connect to the Internet (if not already selected),
and click Next.
(f) Select Set up my connection manually, and click Next.
(g) Select Connect using a dial-up modem, and click Next.
(h) Check the Motorola V3xx modem (identified above); uncheck
everything else; and click Next.
(i) Type ISP Name for this connection (e.g., "AT&T MEdia"),
and click Next.
(j) In Phone number enter "*99#", and click Next.
(k) Leave User name and Password _blank_; set the options as you
wish; and click Next.
(l) Click Finish to launch the Connect dialog box.
5. Configure "dial-up" Connection:
(a) Leave User name and Password _blank_; check Save this user
name; select the option you prefer; and click Properties.
(b) Click Configure button next to All devices call the same
numbers
(c) Select maximum speed (921600); and click OK.
(d) Set any other options you wish, and click OK.
(e) Click Dial to test the connection.
(f) Close Network Connections.
6. Prepare to be impressed if you're in a 3G area (shown by 3G symbol
on the phone)!
--
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| John Navas 2007-03-10, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:26:25 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote in
< t1r3v2dkqhiqa2shbe4i
982jg1c4n556ea@4ax.com>:
>5. Configure "dial-up" Connection:
> (a) Leave User name and Password _blank_; check Save this user
> name; select the option you prefer; and click Properties.
> (b) Click Configure button next to All devices call the same
> numbers
> (c) Select maximum speed (921600); and click OK.
(c.1) Uncheck Enable hardware flow control.
(No options should be checked.)
> (d) Set any other options you wish, and click OK.
> (e) Click Dial to test the connection.
> (f) Close Network Connections.
--
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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| John Navas 2007-03-10, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:26:41 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote in
< 39r3v2lus6si53ml73gr
u2n6nteib825a9@4ax.com>:
>5. Configure "dial-up" Connection:
> (a) Leave User name and Password _blank_; check Save this user
> name; select the option you prefer; and click Properties.
> (b) Click Configure button next to All devices call the same
> numbers
> (c) Select maximum speed (921600); and click OK.
(c.1) Uncheck Enable hardware flow control.
(No options should be checked.)
> (d) Set any other options you wish, and click OK.
> (e) Click Dial to test the connection.
> (f) Close Network Connections.
--
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| John Navas 2007-03-10, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:26:58 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote in
< i9r3v2dgta7br93djh5j
705cjnj9no4ho3@4ax.com>:
>5. Configure "dial-up" Connection:
> (a) Leave User name and Password _blank_; check Save this user
> name; select the option you prefer; and click Properties.
> (b) Click Configure button next to All devices call the same
> numbers
> (c) Select maximum speed (921600); and click OK.
(c.1) Uncheck Enable hardware flow control.
(No options should be checked.)
> (d) Set any other options you wish, and click OK.
> (e) Click Dial to test the connection.
> (f) Close Network Connections.
--
Best regards,
John Navas
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| Jack D. Russell, Sr. 2007-03-11, 7:33 am |
| ====================
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* Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. < jackru$$ell2@notmail
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* Newsgroup: alt.cellular.cingular,alt.cellular.motorola
* Reply to: All; "John Navas" < spamfilter1@navasgro
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* Date:Sun, 11 Mar 2007 06:46:21 -0400
* Subj: Re: Tethering Motorola RAZR V3xx (aka IZAR) on Cingular MEdia
====================
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JN> This HOW TO now updated and posted in the Cingular FAQ at
JN> <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...g
uration>
JN>
JN> --
JN> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
JN> John Navas
JN> <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
Thank you, John.
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|
| John Navas wrote:
> Yes, it is possible to connect a computer to the Internet over low-cost
> Cingular MEdia with the Motorola RAZR V3xx (aka IZAR), which features
> blistering speed in areas with HSDPA coverage (falling back to
> EGPRS[EDGE]/GPRS in other areas), but no, not with the procedure I've
> documented in the Cingular Wireless FAQ (link in my sig block). (The
> latter will result in Error 734.)
>
> Instead, use the method documented below, which works over both
> Bluetooth and USB with Windows XP. But first a caveat: You do this
> entirely at your own risk! Be sure to check the terms and conditions of
> your MEdia package before proceeding.
>
> 1. Prepare to install the V3xx "modem":
> (a) Bluetooth: I recommend using the Windows XP SP2 Bluetooth
> stack, not a third-party Bluetooth stack (e.g., Widcomm).
> (b) USB: Be sure to install the Motorola USB Modem driver _before_
> connecting the V3xxx. To install drivers, you can either
> install Motorola Phone Tools (available at low cost from
> shopoem.com) or Cingular Communication Manager (free download
> from <http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr> ).
>
> 2. Install the V3xx "modem"
> (a) Bluetooth: Pair the V3xx with the computer using the Windows
> XP SP2 Bluetooth stack, which should install "Standard Modem
> over Bluetooth link".
> (b) USB: Connect the V3xx to the computer with a standard 5-pin
> mini-USB cable, which should install "Motorola USB Modem"
> (in my case version 3.4.0.0, 03/22/2006).
>
> 3. Configure the V3xx "modem":
> (a) Right-click My Computer.
> (b) Click Manage.
> (c) Click Device Manager.
> (d) Right-click the V3xx "modem" (identified above).
> (e) Click Advanced tab.
> (f) Put in Extra initialization commands:
> AT+CGDCONT=1, "IP", "WAP.CINGULAR"
> (g) Click OK.
> (h) Close Computer Management.
>
> 4. Create "dial-up" Connection:
> (a) Open Control Panel.
> (b) Double-click Network Connections.
> (c) Under Network Tasks, click Create a new connection.
> (d) When the New Connection Wizard starts, click Next.
> (e) Select Connect to the Internet (if not already selected),
> and click Next.
> (f) Select Set up my connection manually, and click Next.
> (g) Select Connect using a dial-up modem, and click Next.
> (h) Check the Motorola V3xx modem (identified above); uncheck
> everything else; and click Next.
> (i) Type ISP Name for this connection (e.g., "AT&T MEdia"),
> and click Next.
> (j) In Phone number enter "*99#", and click Next.
> (k) Leave User name and Password _blank_; set the options as you
> wish; and click Next.
> (l) Click Finish to launch the Connect dialog box.
>
> 5. Configure "dial-up" Connection:
> (a) Leave User name and Password _blank_; check Save this user
> name; select the option you prefer; and click Properties.
> (b) Click Configure button next to All devices call the same
> numbers
> (c) Select maximum speed (921600); and click OK.
> (d) Set any other options you wish, and click OK.
> (e) Click Dial to test the connection.
> (f) Close Network Connections.
>
> 6. Prepare to be impressed if you're in a 3G area (shown by 3G symbol
> on the phone)!
>
Is there any significant danger in using a cable that does not have a
ferrite module on it? If so, what?
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-12, 7:33 am |
| On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:01:05 -0700, Ken <ken@comcast.net> wrote in
< HsudnWDRuIxmzGnYnZ2d
nUVZ_sLinZ2d@comcast
.com>:
>John Navas wrote:
>[SNIP]
>Is there any significant danger in using a cable that does not have a
>ferrite module on it? If so, what?
Repeating my prior reply to one of your many redundant posts: The
ferrite core helps to reduce RFI (radio frequency interference) with
other devices, especially with hi-speed USB 2.0. There are other ways
of achieving the same result (e.g., shielding). OTOH, there are some
cheap cables that don't bother with RFI suppression.
--
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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
| |
| Dennis Ferguson 2007-03-12, 12:33 pm |
| On 2007-03-11, Ken <ken@comcast.net> wrote:
> Is there any significant danger in using a cable that does not have a
> ferrite module on it? If so, what?
The cable which comes with the V3xx (the overseas version at least) has
no ferrite, for what that's worth. I'm pretty sure pretty sure putting
ferrite on the cable is a deprecated design practice for USB 2.0, since
while it is good for noise immunity it also causes degradation of high
speed signals.
Dennis Ferguson
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:31:36 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
<dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
<slrnevb3jo.89.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>On 2007-03-11, Ken <ken@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>The cable which comes with the V3xx (the overseas version at least) has
>no ferrite, for what that's worth. I'm pretty sure pretty sure putting
>ferrite on the cable is a deprecated design practice for USB 2.0, since
>while it is good for noise immunity it also causes degradation of high
>speed signals.
Intel's EMI Design Guidelines for USB Components specifically recommends
using ferrite beads on USB cables.
--
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Q>
| |
| Dennis Ferguson 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| On 2007-03-12, John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:31:36 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
><dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
><slrnevb3jo.89.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>
>
> Intel's EMI Design Guidelines for USB Components specifically recommends
> using ferrite beads on USB cables.
See
http://tinyurl.com/2rkcz9
in the section titled "Immunize". The Intel guideline is very early
(certainly pre-USB 2.0, perhaps pre-standardization) and the USB
spec itself discourages this.
Dennis Ferguson
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:24:51 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
<dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
<slrnevbh93.83.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>On 2007-03-12, John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>See
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2rkcz9
>
>in the section titled "Immunize". The Intel guideline is very early
>(certainly pre-USB 2.0, perhaps pre-standardization) and the USB
>spec itself discourages this.
I'm familiar with that article, which I think misstates the facts.
Intel is a world-class engineering firm and a USB principal. Martin
Rowe is a journalist, and his USB2.0 citation says nothing about
ferrite.
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Q>
| |
| Dennis Ferguson 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| On 2007-03-12, John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:24:51 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
><dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
><slrnevbh93.83.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>
>
> I'm familiar with that article, which I think misstates the facts.
> Intel is a world-class engineering firm and a USB principal. Martin
> Rowe is a journalist, and his USB2.0 citation says nothing about
> ferrite.
It doesn't? The last sentence of Section 7.1.6.1 in the USB2.0 specification
says:
"Use of ferrite beads on the D+ or D- lines of full-speed devices
is discouraged."
Dennis Ferguson
| |
| Kevin Weaver 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| Tell Motorola that. The usb cable in the box does not have one. L7 phone.
And If Intel Is saying that, then why when I bought a Motherboard from
them there USB Cable that was in the box did not have one ?
John Navas wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:31:36 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
> <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
> <slrnevb3jo.89.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>
>
> Intel's EMI Design Guidelines for USB Components specifically recommends
> using ferrite beads on USB cables.
>
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:39:27 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
<dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
<slrnevbslv.8e.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>It doesn't? The last sentence of Section 7.1.6.1 in the USB2.0 specification
>says:
>
> "Use of ferrite beads on the D+ or D- lines of full-speed devices
> is discouraged."
The keys phrases there are "USB 2.0" and "full-speed", which doesn't
apply here.
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Q>
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| I have no idea. I suggest you it up with Motorola and/or Intel.
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:53:53 -0700, Kevin Weaver
< kevinkeithweaver@sbc
global.net> wrote in
<BCmJh.7923$P47.4157@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net>:
[color=darkred]
>Tell Motorola that. The usb cable in the box does not have one. L7 phone.
>
>And If Intel Is saying that, then why when I bought a Motherboard from
>them there USB Cable that was in the box did not have one ?
>
>John Navas wrote:
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Q>
| |
| Dennis Ferguson 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| On 2007-03-13, John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:39:27 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
><dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
><slrnevbslv.8e.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>
>
> The keys phrases there are "USB 2.0" and "full-speed", which doesn't
> apply here.
Why not? We're talking about the V3xx, right? From the USB spec:
Full-speed USB operation at 12 Mb/s. See also low-speed and high-speed.
The V3xx manual says it is a USB2.0 device (though the same constraint
on ferrite also appears in the 1.1 spec). The V3xx USB interface is a
full-speed interface, it runs at 12 Mb/s. How do those key phrases
"not apply here"?
Dennis Ferguson
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-13, 4:33 am |
| On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:54:08 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
<dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
<slrnevc4if.8q.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com>:
>On 2007-03-13, John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>Why not? We're talking about the V3xx, right? From the USB spec:
>
> Full-speed USB operation at 12 Mb/s. See also low-speed and high-speed.
>
>The V3xx manual says it is a USB2.0 device (though the same constraint
>on ferrite also appears in the 1.1 spec). The V3xx USB interface is a
>full-speed interface, it runs at 12 Mb/s. How do those key phrases
>"not apply here"?
Oops. I was confusing full speed with high speed (thanks to silly
marketing labels), where use of ferrite is "strongly discouraged". Use
on full speed isn't really an issue, as evidenced by "discouraged"
without a qualifier, and by the Intel advice, which did apply to full
speed.
p.s. USB 2.0 has nothing to do with speed.
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Q>
| |
|
| Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> It doesn't? The last sentence of Section 7.1.6.1 in the USB2.0 specification
> says:
>
> "Use of ferrite beads on the D+ or D- lines of full-speed devices
> is discouraged."
The ferrite beads will attenuate the signal, but on a full-speed device
it probably won't hurt anything. You definitely wouldn't want them on a
high-speed device.
"In some applications, ferrite beads around cables can reduce
common-mode currents that disrupt a product’s operation. The USB spec
discourages the use of ferrite beads because they may slow a data
signal’s edges to where a USB device no longer recognizes bits. Be
aware, though, that Intel’s EMI Design Guidelines for USB Components
suggests using ferrite beads as a method for reducing interference.2
According to Locke, Intel’s design guideline (which is undated) was
written early in USB’s life and you shouldn’t use ferrite beads."
The whole argument is ridiculous, as you can buy the same sort of cable,
without the ferrite, for less than the version with the ferrite. I've
seen them for less than $1. Or you can cut the ferrite off the cable if
it has one.
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-13, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 13:31:46 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 45f70a35$0$27177$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Dennis Ferguson wrote:
>
>
>The ferrite beads will attenuate the signal, but on a full-speed device
>it probably won't hurt anything. You definitely wouldn't want them on a
>high-speed device.
>
>"In some applications, ferrite beads around cables can reduce
>common-mode currents that disrupt a product’s operation. The USB spec
>discourages the use of ferrite beads because they may slow a data
>signal’s edges to where a USB device no longer recognizes bits. Be
>aware, though, that Intel’s EMI Design Guidelines for USB Components
>suggests using ferrite beads as a method for reducing interference.2
>According to Locke, Intel’s design guideline (which is undated) was
>written early in USB’s life and you shouldn’t use ferrite beads."
>
>The whole argument is ridiculous,
Indeed it is, because...
>as you can buy the same sort of cable,
>without the ferrite, for less than the version with the ferrite. I've
>seen them for less than $1.
....those $1 non-ferrite cables are usually crap. To get quality, you'll
usually have to pay more.
>Or you can cut the ferrite off the cable if
>it has one.
Equally bad idea.
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Q>
| |
|
| Kevin Weaver wrote:
> Tell Motorola that. The usb cable in the box does not have one. L7 phone.
>
> And If Intel Is saying that, then why when I bought a Motherboard from
> them there USB Cable that was in the box did not have one ?
There was an e-mail from Intel's engineers that eliminated the
recommendation for a ferrite bead, but it was accidentally deleted.
| |
|
| Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> See
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2rkcz9
>
> in the section titled "Immunize". The Intel guideline is very early
> (certainly pre-USB 2.0, perhaps pre-standardization) and the USB
> spec itself discourages this.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
Isn't it time for the standard Navas "agree to disagree" cop-out?
| |
| John Navas 2007-03-13, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:49:42 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 45f746a9$0$27167$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>Kevin Weaver wrote:
>
>There was an e-mail from Intel's engineers that eliminated the
>recommendation for a ferrite bead, but it was accidentally deleted.
And pigs have wings.
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| John Navas 2007-04-05, 10:33 pm |
| On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:26:25 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote in
< t1r3v2dkqhiqa2shbe4i
982jg1c4n556ea@4ax.com>:
>1. Prepare to install the V3xx "modem":
....
> (b) USB: Be sure to install the Motorola USB Modem driver _before_
> connecting the V3xxx. To install drivers, you can either
> install Motorola Phone Tools (available at low cost from
> shopoem.com) or Cingular Communication Manager (free download
> from <http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr> ).
>2. Install the V3xx "modem"
....
> (b) USB: Connect the V3xx to the computer with a standard 5-pin
> mini-USB cable, which should install "Motorola USB Modem"
> (in my case version 3.4.0.0, 03/22/2006).
....
>5. Configure "dial-up" Connection:
....
> (c) Select maximum speed (921600); and click OK.
The latest version of the Motorola USB modem driver now permits full USB
speed to be selected.
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| dold@90.usenet.us.com 2007-04-05, 10:33 pm |
| In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> The latest version of the Motorola USB modem driver now permits full USB
> speed to be selected.
I wasn't following the 47 posts in this thread closely enough...
Is the new speed high enough that Bluetooth isn't sufficient?
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| John Navas 2007-04-05, 10:33 pm |
| On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 02:22:42 +0000 (UTC), dold@90.usenet.us.com wrote in
<ev4ati$cb3$1@blue.rahul.net>:
>In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
[color=darkred]
>I wasn't following the 47 posts in this thread closely enough...
I don't blame you. :)
>Is the new speed high enough that Bluetooth isn't sufficient?
My ancient ThinkPad 600 (which I'm using while my ThinkPad T41 is being
repaired) has only USB 1.1, and I can select a port speed of 12 Mbps.
The current sustained speed of HSDPA is within the speed range of
Bluetooth, but high-speed bursts can exceed Bluetooth speed and would
thus work better with USB. In addition, latency is reduced by the
higher USB speed. Subjectively, my USB connection does now seem to be
faster and more responsive than Bluetooth, but I haven't yet run
carefully controlled tests.
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| John Navas 2007-04-06, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 02:49:29 GMT, John Navas
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>On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 02:22:42 +0000 (UTC), dold@90.usenet.us.com wrote in
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>I don't blame you. :)
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>My ancient ThinkPad 600 (which I'm using while my ThinkPad T41 is being
>repaired) has only USB 1.1, and I can select a port speed of 12 Mbps.
>The current sustained speed of HSDPA is within the speed range of
>Bluetooth, but high-speed bursts can exceed Bluetooth speed and would
>thus work better with USB. In addition, latency is reduced by the
>higher USB speed. Subjectively, my USB connection does now seem to be
>faster and more responsive than Bluetooth, but I haven't yet run
>carefully controlled tests.
The USB cable, of course, has the additional benefit of charging the
phone while it's tethered.
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| dold@90.usenet.us.com 2007-04-08, 10:33 pm |
| In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
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.... Something about the USB charging the phone while connected to the PC.
I wondered if that was selectable, as my cellphone battery might be less
precious than my laptop battery in a given situation.
I don't see any mention of the V3xx charging from a PC in the User Guide or
FAQs. Does it charge? Is it selectable?
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| xPosTech 2007-04-08, 10:33 pm |
| On 4/8/2007 6:31 PM, dold@90.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
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> ... Something about the USB charging the phone while connected to the PC.
>
> I wondered if that was selectable, as my cellphone battery might be less
> precious than my laptop battery in a given situation.
>
> I don't see any mention of the V3xx charging from a PC in the User Guide or
> FAQs. Does it charge? Is it selectable?
>
That will depend on the USB cable. I've heard of some active, others
inactive. Small USB devices usually derive power from the port. I
think cables furnished with Sony cameras for instance, are inactive. In
other words, all pins of the PC (large) are not connected to the device
(mini) end. At least I think (there I go again) so.
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Ted
I wasn't born in Texas but
I got back here as soon as I could
(Don't forget to take out the trash)
Deserves death! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve
death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to
them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.
-- J. R. R. Tolkein
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| John Navas 2007-04-09, 3:33 pm |
| On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 23:31:44 +0000 (UTC), dold@90.usenet.us.com wrote in
<evbu10$5gb$1@blue.rahul.net>:
>In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
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>... Something about the USB charging the phone while connected to the PC.
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>I wondered if that was selectable, as my cellphone battery might be less
>precious than my laptop battery in a given situation.
Not selectable AFAIK, but not a big issue (to me in any event), since
the cell phone battery has so much less capacity than the laptop
battery.
>I don't see any mention of the V3xx charging from a PC in the User Guide or
>FAQs. Does it charge?
Yes, and the charge is quite fast.
>Is it selectable?
No (AFAIK).
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Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
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| Lyman Green 2007-04-13, 3:33 pm |
| On Mar 9, 7:26 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> Yes, it is possible to connect a computer to the Internet over low-cost
> Cingular MEdia with the Motorola RAZRV3xx(aka IZAR), which features
> blistering speed in areas with HSDPA coverage (falling back to
> EGPRS[EDGE]/GPRS in other areas), but no, not with the procedure I've
> documented in the Cingular Wireless FAQ (link in my sig block). (The
> latter will result in Error 734.)
>
> Instead, use the method documented below, which works over both
> Bluetooth and USB with Windows XP. But first a caveat: You do this
> entirely at your own risk! Be sure to check the terms and conditions of
> your MEdia package before proceeding.
>
> 1. Prepare to install theV3xx"modem":
> (a) Bluetooth: I recommend using the Windows XP SP2 Bluetooth
> stack, not a third-party Bluetooth stack (e.g., Widcomm).
> (b) USB: Be sure to install the Motorola USB Modem driver _before_
> connecting the V3xxx. To install drivers, you can either
> install Motorola Phone Tools (available at low cost from
> shopoem.com) or Cingular Communication Manager (free download
> from <http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr> ).
>
> 2. Install theV3xx"modem"
> (a) Bluetooth: Pair theV3xxwith the computer using the Windows
> XP SP2 Bluetooth stack, which should install "Standard Modem
> over Bluetooth link".
> (b) USB: Connect theV3xxto the computer with a standard 5-pin
> mini-USB cable, which should install "Motorola USB Modem"
> (in my case version 3.4.0.0, 03/22/2006).
>
> 3. Configure theV3xx"modem":
> (a) Right-click My Computer.
> (b) Click Manage.
> (c) Click Device Manager.
> (d) Right-click theV3xx"modem" (identified above).
> (e) Click Advanced tab.
> (f) Put in Extra initialization commands:
> AT+CGDCONT=1, "IP", "WAP.CINGULAR"
> (g) Click OK.
> (h) Close Computer Management.
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> 4. Create "dial-up" Connection:
> (a) Open Control Panel.
> (b) Double-click Network Connections.
> (c) Under Network Tasks, click Create a new connection.
> (d) When the New Connection Wizard starts, click Next.
> (e) Select Connect to the Internet (if not already selected),
> and click Next.
> (f) Select Set up my connection manually, and click Next.
> (g) Select Connect using a dial-up modem, and click Next.
> (h) Check the MotorolaV3xxmodem (identified above); uncheck
> everything else; and click Next.
> (i) Type ISP Name for this connection (e.g., "AT&T MEdia"),
> and click Next.
> (j) In Phone number enter "*99#", and click Next.
> (k) Leave User name and Password _blank_; set the options as you
> wish; and click Next.
> (l) Click Finish to launch the Connect dialog box.
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> 5. Configure "dial-up" Connection:
> (a) Leave User name and Password _blank_; check Save this user
> name; select the option you prefer; and click Properties.
> (b) Click Configure button next to All devices call the same
> numbers
> (c) Select maximum speed (921600); and click OK.
> (d) Set any other options you wish, and click OK.
> (e) Click Dial to test the connection.
> (f) Close Network Connections.
>
> 6. Prepare to be impressed if you're in a 3G area (shown by 3G symbol
> on the phone)!
>
Wow that seems awfully complicated.
I just upgraded to a V3XX and got (for the first two months) the Media
Max 200 plan. So I've got 3G. I tethered via USB my V3XX to my PC,
ran the Mobile Tools app (which I'd run to get updated to support my
new phone) and when it came up, I clicked on "Connect" and it made a
connection to the Internet. I didn't have to do anything.
I'm not saying what you wrote up there is wrong, just that it's way,
way more complicated that it seemed to me, at least using the Mobile
Tools app.
I have done a bit of hunting and if I understand correctly, Cingular
doesn't actually approve/support of this kind of thing if your'e not
getting a real "data" plan but I just wanted to see if it worked, and
it did.
I was even able to get decent 3G speeds with a VPN tunnel to my
company's corporate network. Very impressive.
Lyman Green
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| John Navas 2007-04-13, 3:33 pm |
| On 13 Apr 2007 10:35:46 -0700, "Lyman Green" <lymang@gmail.com> wrote in
<1176485746.147390.303710@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>:
>On Mar 9, 7:26 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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>Wow that seems awfully complicated.
>I just upgraded to a V3XX and got (for the first two months) the Media
>Max 200 plan. So I've got 3G. I tethered via USB my V3XX to my PC,
>ran the Mobile Tools app (which I'd run to get updated to support my
>new phone) and when it came up, I clicked on "Connect" and it made a
>connection to the Internet. I didn't have to do anything.
>
>I'm not saying what you wrote up there is wrong, just that it's way,
>way more complicated that it seemed to me, at least using the Mobile
>Tools app.
What "Mobile Tools" app? If you mean Motorola Phone Tools, it didn't
work for me because it configured the modem driver incorrectly.
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| dold@90.usenet.us.com 2007-04-13, 3:33 pm |
| Lyman Green <lymang@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 7:26 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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> Wow that seems awfully complicated.
> I just upgraded to a V3XX and got (for the first two months) the Media
> Max 200 plan. So I've got 3G. I tethered via USB my V3XX to my PC,
> ran the Mobile Tools app (which I'd run to get updated to support my
> new phone) and when it came up, I clicked on "Connect" and it made a
> connection to the Internet. I didn't have to do anything.
When you say "Mobile Tools App" are you referring to Motorola Phone Tools?
That will create a connection to ISP@ login, not the WAP@ login used for
Media Net, unless it has changed since I used it.
You probably made a pay-as-you-go connection.
You should be able to go through the steps John notes to verify which
connection was built.
Have you looked at your data usage online since then?
If you have MPT, it might be simplest to create that login, and then go
adjust it from ISP to WAP to get the MEdiaNet connection instead of Laptop
Connect.
If you don't have MPT, then John's steps would let you do the configuration
from scratch.
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