Cingular cell phone service

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Cingular 8125

Chris Holub

2007-05-20, 10:33 am

Hello all,
I just got a Cingular 8125 a few weeks ago. Like it a lot so far. I
only paid $50 from Cingular online for it. My current contract came
due and I wanted a phone that I could sync my Outlook with and other
PDA functions and since this one also has WiFi built in I was sold.
Anyway I would like to get a bluetooth GPS sometime but till these was
looking to find out if someone has a Location tracking software that
uses Cellular towers to triangulate your position to give you your
location on a map just like a GPS receiver would.

Cheers,
Chris

Bill Kraski

2007-05-21, 4:33 am

Chris Holub wrote:

> Anyway I would like to get a bluetooth GPS sometime but till these was
> looking to find out if someone has a Location tracking software that
> uses Cellular towers to triangulate your position to give you your
> location on a map just like a GPS receiver would.

Others may know of something else, but the only one I've seen is
Navizon. There's a pay version that maps based on WiFi hotspots & cell
towers, plus a free version that uses GPS as well. Once you have a GPS
unit, you can map the towers & hotspots in your area via GPS, send them
back to Navizon's database, with Paypal payments to you for your info.

--
Bill K

Todd Allcock

2007-05-21, 4:33 am

At 20 May 2007 06:49:54 -0700 Chris Holub wrote:
> Hello all,
> I just got a Cingular 8125 a few weeks ago...
> Anyway I would like to get a bluetooth GPS sometime but till these was
> looking to find out if someone has a Location tracking software that
> uses Cellular towers to triangulate your position to give you your
> location on a map just like a GPS receiver would.

No, because your 8125 doesn't have access to that information. Cingular
triangulates your phone's position; your phone doesn't have access to
that info, unless Cingular gives (sells) it to you.

No 3rd party app can extract that info from the network- you'll have to
ask Cingular if they have a subscription nav service available like
Verizon does.

Once you buy a BT GPS unit, of course, you'll be able to use whatever nav
software is compatible with your device.

Thurman

2007-05-21, 10:33 am

"Todd Allcock" < elecconnec@AmericaOn
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> At 20 May 2007 06:49:54 -0700 Chris Holub wrote:
>
> No, because your 8125 doesn't have access to that information. Cingular
> triangulates your phone's position; your phone doesn't have access to
> that info, unless Cingular gives (sells) it to you.
>
> No 3rd party app can extract that info from the network- you'll have to
> ask Cingular if they have a subscription nav service available like
> Verizon does.

You'll have to do some searching, but there was a high school student that
figured out how to extract the tower ID from the cell phone heartbeat. He
started building a database of towers by lat-long. It was a daunting task.

When he entered college, he came up with a better plan, but frankly not
enough to attract me. He asked people with certain models of PDAs that had
GPS units to send him the lat-long and tower ID using the software he
supplied. In exchange for x number of submissions, you would gain access to
the growing database. All others would have to pay a fee. It was ingenious
to have the customers do the heavy lifting.

In about the March issue of Popular Science, the editors promoted a web
article that would allow you to place any cell phone in test mode. That was
to allow you to read the tower ID then do a database lookup. It was
interesting that the web link went to print in the magazine, but the URL
never appeared. I suspect Homeland Security may have killed the link or the
cell phone companies threatened to sue.

Wi-Fi is prevalent enough to use that database for location, but most Wi-Fi
places have street addresses. Bluetooth GPS units that work with many cell
phones as well as Smartphones are available for ~$100.

I still explore ways to determine where you are located between Peaster and
Paradise, TX.

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