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| P.Schuman 2007-06-06, 10:33 pm |
| a freind mentioned that there is a law/rule that all cell phones
must have the "5" deliniated in some manner.... for disability access..
Some have a "raised" dot on the 5, or dots on each side of the 5 -
So - we were wondering, how will the iPhone comply with this ??
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| Todd Allcock 2007-06-07, 4:33 am |
| At 06 Jun 2007 18:57:29 -0500 P.Schuman wrote:
> a freind mentioned that there is a law/rule that all cell phones
> must have the "5" deliniated in some manner.... for disability access..
I'm not aware of any such law- it's just a convenience/safety feature
AFAIK, to aid dialing without looking at the keypad.
> Some have a "raised" dot on the 5, or dots on each side of the 5 -
>
> So - we were wondering, how will the iPhone comply with this ??
Voice dialing? I can push a button and speak "dial 555-1212" on my
Pocket PC phone.
As revolutionary as everyone seems to want every aspect of the iPhone to
be, Pocket PC phones, which have been around for about five years now,
have touchscreens and no physical phone dial pad either.
However, I'm pretty sure clownfish screensavers are a recent
technological breakthrough, though...
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| Thurman 2007-06-07, 7:33 am |
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"Todd Allcock" < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in message
news:f487eg$eet$2@ai
oe.org...
<snip>...
> As revolutionary as everyone seems to want every aspect of the iPhone to
> be, Pocket PC phones, which have been around for about five years now,
> have touchscreens and no physical phone dial pad either.
>
> However, I'm pretty sure clownfish screensavers are a recent
> technological breakthrough, though...
LOL!
Don't forget the use of a cell phone as a finger wipe.
The self checkout at one of the local grocery stores works best in
'fingerprint' mode,
as in the iPhone commercial,
which retains the 'tracks' of those that have gone before you.
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| John Navas 2007-06-13, 4:33 am |
| On Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:03:13 -0600, Todd Allcock
< elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in <f487eg$eet$2@aioe.org>:
>At 06 Jun 2007 18:57:29 -0500 P.Schuman wrote:
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>Voice dialing? I can push a button and speak "dial 555-1212" on my
>Pocket PC phone.
>
>As revolutionary as everyone seems to want every aspect of the iPhone to
>be, Pocket PC phones, which have been around for about five years now,
>have touchscreens and no physical phone dial pad either.
Moto RAZR V3xx has excellent speaker-independent voice dialing. [yawn]
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| Todd Allcock 2007-06-13, 12:33 pm |
| At 13 Jun 2007 06:08:24 +0000 John Navas wrote:
> Moto RAZR V3xx has excellent speaker-independent voice dialing. [yawn]
As do many phones. My point, simply, was that there's nothing
revolutionary about the iPhone in concept. (Perhaps it will be so
streamlined and seamless in execution it will be a beauty to behold, but
that still remains to be seen.)
I found the new iPhone commercials ironic- like the guy watching "Pirates",
then calling up Google maps to find a seafood restaurant. Most of us
here have been kicking around cellphones long enough to see how non-
revolutionary any of that is. I'm on vacation right now in DC. In the
last6 hours, besides the "mundane" stuff like check and reply to e-mail
and check accuweather.com, I've used my phone to watch the most recent
episode of Doctor Who, downloaded the DC Metro map for future reference,
read the alt.cellular groups and posted this message, and logged into my
home PC via LogMeIn.com to retrieve a Mapopolis mapfile I forgot to load
on my SD card before leaving. "I feel like calamari...?" Puh-lease! ;-)
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| John Navas 2007-06-13, 3:33 pm |
| On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 12:07:03 -0400, Todd Allcock
< elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in <f4p96h$8g0$3@aioe.org>:
>At 13 Jun 2007 06:08:24 +0000 John Navas wrote:
>
>
>As do many phones. ...
Some yes, but few are truly >> speaker independent << with no need to
train -- many have to at least be trained, or have voice tags
pre-recorded.
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| dold@16.usenet.us.com 2007-06-13, 10:33 pm |
| John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> Moto RAZR V3xx has excellent speaker-independent voice dialing. [yawn]
The V3xx is quite flexible. It does a good job of recognition, and it
offers voice command alternatives if the ID is ambiguous, and is easily
handled by voice. It also offers training to your voice, if needed, which
didn't seem to be necessary for me, although it might have improved some
ambiguities.
The Nokia 6126 forges blindly ahead, dialing the first number that it
thinks is correct after 1.5 seconds. You can scroll by hand to a different
number, but I don't find any voice way to do it. There are no customized
tags or training in the Nokia.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
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| John Navas 2007-06-13, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 22:09:43 +0000 (UTC), dold@16.usenet.us.com wrote in
<f4ppv7$q1o$4@blue.rahul.net>:
>John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>The V3xx is quite flexible. It does a good job of recognition, and it
>offers voice command alternatives if the ID is ambiguous, and is easily
>handled by voice. It also offers training to your voice, if needed, which
>didn't seem to be necessary for me, although it might have improved some
>ambiguities.
>
>The Nokia 6126 forges blindly ahead, dialing the first number that it
>thinks is correct after 1.5 seconds. You can scroll by hand to a different
>number, but I don't find any voice way to do it. There are no customized
>tags or training in the Nokia.
One of several reasons for me to prefer the V3xx over the 6126.
IM(ns)HO, they're not even in the same league.
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| dold@16.usenet.us.com 2007-06-13, 10:33 pm |
| John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> One of several reasons for me to prefer the V3xx over the 6126.
> IM(ns)HO, they're not even in the same league.
I prefer the 6126 for it's ability to hold a connection, either voice or
web, in an area where the V3xx will not. In feature list, the V3xx is
superior. I just wish it had a better radio, which isn't quantified in the
feature list.
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
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| John Navas 2007-06-13, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:34:07 +0000 (UTC), dold@16.usenet.us.com wrote in
<f4putf$2dh$2@blue.rahul.net>:
>John Navas < spamfilter1@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>I prefer the 6126 for it's ability to hold a connection, either voice or
>web, in an area where the V3xx will not.
For you. For me the V3xx performs very well indeed. I think it quite
likely that you have a defective V3xx.
>In feature list, the V3xx is
>superior. I just wish it had a better radio, which isn't quantified in the
>feature list.
It has a better radio.
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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/ Cingu...less_FA
Q>
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