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Creating video for playback on Motorola V3xx
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| John Navas 2007-06-11, 10:33 pm |
| Used QuickTime Pro to Export as 3GP file
Encoder settings:
H.263 Video, 176 x 144, 128 Kbps, 15 fps
AAC-LC Music, Mono, 48 Kbps, 32 kHz
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| tmoran@acm.org 2007-06-12, 4:33 am |
| > Used QuickTime Pro to Export as 3GP file
> Encoder settings:
> H.263 Video, 176 x 144, 128 Kbps, 15 fps
> AAC-LC Music, Mono, 48 Kbps, 32 kHz
Using FFmpeg, the command line
ffmpeg -an -i source.avi -s 176x144 -fs 90 target.3gp
converts a short avi video to a file that plays on my Sony-Ericsson Z520a.
I'd hope that would also work on the Motorola.
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| John Navas 2007-06-12, 4:33 am |
| On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:39:19 -0500, tmoran@acm.org wrote in
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>Using FFmpeg, the command line
> ffmpeg -an -i source.avi -s 176x144 -fs 90 target.3gp
>converts a short avi video to a file that plays on my Sony-Ericsson Z520a.
No audio with that, and QuickTime Pro is a better video encoder.
>I'd hope that would also work on the Motorola.
The V3xx is more capable than the Z520a.
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| tmoran@acm.org 2007-06-12, 12:33 pm |
| > No audio with that, and QuickTime Pro is a better video encoder.
FFmpeg will do audio too. In what way is Quicktime Pro a better encoder?
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> The V3xx is more capable than the Z520a.
Ie, anything that works on the Z520a should work on the V3xx?
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| John Navas 2007-06-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:48:11 GMT, John Navas
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>Used QuickTime Pro to Export as 3GP file
>Encoder settings:
>H.263 Video, 176 x 144, 128 Kbps, 15 fps
UPDATE: MPEG-4 (ASP) Video, 176 x 144, 128 Kbps, 15 fps
>AAC-LC Music, Mono, 48 Kbps, 32 kHz
UPDATE: AAC-LC Music, Stereo, 64 Kbps, 32 kHz
(Mono not actually supported)
Nero Recode encoding:
Nero Digital Category: 3GPP
Nero Digital Profile: 3GPP
Video Quality: 128Kbps (or higher)
Audio: AAC 2-ch 44.1KHz, Automatic settings
Nero Digital Settings: Encoder: High quality encoding (2-pass)
FFmpeg encoding options:
-f mp4 -r 15 -s 176x144 -b 128000 -ar 44100 -ab 64000
Ideally use 2-pass encoding, -pass 1 followed by -pass 2
Notes:
1. H.263 is similar to and comparable in quality to MPEG-4 ASP
(Advanced Simple Profile; e.g., XviD, DivX), depending more on
features and quality of encoder than the basic technologies.
2. H.264/MPEG-4 AVC (Advanced Video Codec) is better than H.263 or
MPEG-4 ASP, but the V3xx doesn't support it.
3. The V3xx is able to handle much higher bitrates (e.g., 256 Kbps),
but 128 Kbps is sufficient for good quality at 176 x 144, while
keeping file size down.
4. AAC gives better audio results at low bitrates than MP3.
5. The V3xx is able to handle much higher bitrates (e.g., 256 Kbps),
but 64 Kbps AAC is sufficient for good audio quality, while
keeping file size down.
6. Although QuickTime Pro is relatively inexpensive ($30), it's not
free, and free alternatives (e.g., FFmpeg) are available.
7. FFmpeg isn't as good at encoding as QuickTime Pro, both in terms
of quality and in terms of maintaining audio-video sync, and is
less stable (experimental).
8. Other transcoding options:
(a) Nero Recode, trialware, very good and fast, 2-pass encoding.
Not tested:
(b) SUPER, freeware, FFmpeg GUI, simple to use.
(c) Total Video Converter, trialware, supports many formats.
9. YouTube FLV video can be converted online to other formats at
<http://vixy.net/>. Transcoding to MPEG-4 ASP is free and very
good, but output is not compatible with the V3xx.
Links:
* Apple QuickTime <http://www.apple.com/quicktime/>
* FFmpeg <http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/>
Windows binaries <http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/ffmpeg/>
* Nero Recode <http://www.nero.com/>
* SUPER <http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html>
* Total Video Converter
<http://www.effectmatrix.com/total-video-converter/>
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John Navas <http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/Motorola>
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| John Navas 2007-06-12, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:27:46 -0500, tmoran@acm.org wrote in
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>FFmpeg will do audio too.
True. See my later post to this thread.
>In what way is Quicktime Pro a better encoder?
Quality of output is better, A-V sync is more reliable.
Nero Recode likewise. These are commercial grade encoders.
>Ie, anything that works on the Z520a should work on the V3xx?
Possibly, but not necessarily -- I can't say.
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| tmoran@acm.org 2007-06-12, 10:33 pm |
| > ... various programs and setting to create 3gp videos
Thanks!
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| John Navas 2007-06-13, 4:33 am |
| On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:10:12 GMT, John Navas
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>4. AAC gives better audio results at low bitrates than MP3.
The V3xx also supports AMR, which is lower quality than ACC and MP3, and
whose only real virtue is very low bitrate.
All of this information is now published at
<http://cell.wikia.com/wiki/ Motorol...o_
player>.
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