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Re: Apple Flops: iPhone will flop like Mac Mini, Cube, Newton, etc, etc

Kurt

2007-07-04, 12:33 pm

In article <1183533448.834802.119500@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
dj.john.england@gmail.com wrote:

> On Jun 29, 8:25 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> And it just sold close to 700,000 over its first weekend. How ya like
> me now????

I wouldn't worry, the asjbio poster disappeared pretty fast off this
board after all the success.

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Todd Allcock

2007-07-05, 3:33 pm

At 05 Jul 2007 11:01:34 -0700 Kurt wrote:

> The industry needed a shakeup. Phone manufacturers have been too
> complacent with their offerings.

Yes and no- I think the Palm and some WinMo devices are quite usable with
a minimal learning curve. Blackberries still bug me- no matter how long
I play with them, I can't get used to the menu system! (But that's a
personal thing- BBs have their raving fanatics as well.) I agree, however,
basic phones are becoming too comple for the traditional drill-down menus
with arcane titles. (Is Call Forwarding under Tools/Options/Network
Settings or under Settings/Call Settings/Services?)

And when did indecipherable 16x16 icons on a 160x160 screen become a
better idea for menu items than a simple text list?

I find this stuff far less of a problem on higher-res sartphone devices
with cascading menus than on low-res low-end phones like a Nokia Series 40.

> Apple knows good industrial design and
> function. Hopefully, we'll see a shake up with the others. I think the
> Apple is only going to get better.

I'm sure they will. But I hope others choose to adapt the design elements
they like to their own designs rather than foist a bunch of lower-end rip-
offs on us.

I personally like using a stylus, for example, because it affords me more
accuracy than my fat fingers could. It's a personal choice, no doubt
powered as much by habit (I've used touchscreen PDAs for a number of
years) as any other rationalizations I can come up with. Finger control
would be nice for some apps (in-car navigation for example) but I'd want
it as a option- not an absolute.

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Todd Allcock

2007-07-06, 4:33 am

At 05 Jul 2007 15:24:25 -1000 Mitch wrote:

> Boy, I was paying attention, but I guess I didn't read the nutcase
> press. Not one wild guess that I read was anything like this kind of
> childish nonsense.

Some form of personal flying device was bandied about quasi-seriously by
idiot "experts" interviewed on the 24-news outlets. Admittedly the Star
Trek transporter suggestion was tongue-in-cheek.

> And I don't think many actually believed those were real possibilities,
> either. In other words, I don't b=think people expected a jet-pack, I
> think they expected to be disappointed.

Agreed. I did expect the iPhone to get the same treatment, however- I
think it's a pretty interesting device, but I don't think ANY device
can live up to that level of hype.

> Whatever they thought, what was released is actually revolutionary and
> innovative.

Agreed (about the Segway, at least!)

> Yes, I suppose there will always be a few nutcase press reports trying
> to exaggerate (probably to get readers attention), and certainly there
> are always a very few people who actually expect some kind of bizarre
> miracle (largely because they minimize the real effort and science that
> new products require).

Agreed.

> But that doesn't mean that anything would be judged by them. We judge
> by the real and intelligent comments, right?

;-)

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