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The iPhlop sales disaster
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| asjbiotek@gmail.com 2007-07-25, 10:33 pm |
| On Jul 25, 9:04 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 25, 7:57 pm, Oxford <colalovesm...@mac.com> wrote:
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> Oh, I just HAD to get back in after hearing this blathering idiot go
> on....
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> ROTFLOL....are all the macnuts here complete idiots? Are all you
> losers complete morons?
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> Even Apple itself says it MAY hit 1 million after ONE QUARTER of sales
> (that's 3 months)....
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> Says Jobs: "we hope to sell our one-millionth iPhone by the end of its
> first full quarter of sales"
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> Notice the term "hope" and "its first full quarter of sales"....
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> And how in God's earth will it sell 14 million in the next 5 months or
> so when it sells only 1 million in the first 3 months? Helloo?????Is
> there anything in that hairy thing on top of ur head?
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/news...icleID=20120...
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> hey iPhone, meet the Lisa, and the Cube, and the mac mini, and the
> Apple TV (another burgeoning nothing) and the newton....and throw in
> the NeXT disaster while we're at it....
Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
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| asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 25, 9:04 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
Which model of handset?
--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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| Oxford 2007-07-25, 10:33 pm |
| asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
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> Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
but nokia is the DeLL of the phone world. 5 nokia phones equals 1
iPhone, so while Apple now commands the high end of the cell market. so
it's only a matter of time before Apple releases an iPhone nano, and
nokia goes bye-bye.
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| karlkrandall@sbcglobal.net 2007-07-25, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:31:07 -0500, Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote:
>asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
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>Which model of handset?
Exactly; Nokia only wishes it could sell that many of any one handset
model in ONE market. Divide the trollers 1 million by the myriad
models, and then by the myriad markets.
How many MP3 players does Nokia sell?
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| Peter 2007-07-25, 10:33 pm |
| In article <1185412666.717751.189600@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 25, 9:04 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
That may or may not be true but the vast majority of these phones will
be at the dirt cheap end. Apple is not targeting this market. They are
after the top end ( as with computers ). They will have at least half of
this top 10% in a few years (ie 50 million) no worries. I would much
rather be selling 50 million $500 ( at ~$150 markup on each) phones than
300 million $50 phones ( at what, $10 profit?).
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| Timberwoof 2007-07-25, 10:33 pm |
| In article <1185412666.717751.189600@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 25, 9:04 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
So a well-known company with an established reputation sells a million
phones every day, and a newcomer to the market sells a tenth of that
amount every day on the first two days. Hm. I'd say the newcomer did
well.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
an important web site: http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/
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| In article <1185412666.717751.189600@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 25, 9:04 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
Across the entire world (the iPhone is only available in the US so far,
which represents maybe 6% of the total mobile market), across all models
(Nokia has dozens), and at, one can be certain, a vastly lower average
unit price.
You're not making a meaningful comparison.
--
"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing
about him is that I read three--three or four books about him last year. Isn't
that interesting?"
- George W. Bush to reporter Kai Diekmann, May 5, 2006
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| Alan Baker 2007-07-26, 4:33 am |
| In article <1185412666.717751.189600@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 25, 9:04 pm, asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Btw, just so you guys know how big this market is compared to 270k
> phones sold in 2 days, Nokia last year sold 345 MILLION phones in one
> year, which comes to almost 1 MILLION phones EVERY DAY....
Wow.
A company that sells many models of phones outsells...
....one model of phone.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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| asjbiotek@gmail.com 2007-07-26, 4:33 am |
| On Jul 26, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
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> Wow.
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> A company that sells many models of phones outsells...
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> ...one model of phone.
It's funny how you morons focus on ONE point i made (when all i wanted
to show was how big the market is) and cannot argue any others because
you actually have no arguments that stand.
Btw, here's a 200 million units sold handset model from Nokia.
http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/07/...million-served/
Think the iPhlop can make it to 200 million? bwahahabwahahaha.....
Ok, much as i'd like to continue to pound your macnut heads, it's time
to gooooo..
hasta la vista, morons.
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| Alan Baker 2007-07-26, 4:33 am |
| In article <1185429421.718266.99060@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 26, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
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> It's funny how you morons focus on ONE point i made (when all i wanted
> to show was how big the market is) and cannot argue any others because
> you actually have no arguments that stand.
>
> Btw, here's a 200 million units sold handset model from Nokia.
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/07/...-million-served
> /
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> Think the iPhlop can make it to 200 million? bwahahabwahahaha.....
No.
But unlike you (apparently) I'm not stupid enough to think it needs to.
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> Ok, much as i'd like to continue to pound your macnut heads, it's time
> to gooooo..
>
> hasta la vista, morons.
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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| In article <alangbaker-7BA06A.22481725072007@news.telus.net>, Alan
Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
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> Wow.
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> A company that sells many models of phones outsells...
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> ...one model of phone.
Yes, and almost all of those at very very low margins.
But still, why would this matter? It's like everyone attacking Apple
assumes the only way to have success is to beat down others or win huge
market share.
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| Steve de Mena 2007-07-26, 4:33 am |
| asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 26, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
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> It's funny how you morons focus on ONE point i made (when all i wanted
> to show was how big the market is) and cannot argue any others because
> you actually have no arguments that stand.
>
> Btw, here's a 200 million units sold handset model from Nokia.
> http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/07/...million-served/
Probably 100 million, not 200 million.
" - Nokia 1100 family of phones has sold more than
100 million units to date."
Nokia press release April 2006.
http://press.nokia.com/PR/200604/1045813_5.html
Steve
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| In article <alangbaker-FFBCBF.23341725072007@news.telus.net>, Alan
Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
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> No.
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> But unlike you (apparently) I'm not stupid enough to think it needs to.
No, and he didn't show a model that did,
and he didn't show that it made much profit,
and he didn't show that Apple should ever try to sell so many.
This kind of moronic, third-grade comparison is like saying no one can
play basketball except the one guy that makes the most money.
It's just filled with bad thinking, non-logic, and error.
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| Peter Hayes 2007-07-26, 7:33 am |
| Oxford <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote:
> asjbiotek@gmail.com wrote:
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> but nokia is the DeLL of the phone world. 5 nokia phones equals 1
> iPhone, so while Apple now commands the high end of the cell market. so
> it's only a matter of time before Apple releases an iPhone nano, and
> nokia goes bye-bye.
No they won't, and Nokia won't "go bye-bye". Apple don't do low end
phones any more than they do low end computers. End of story.
--
Immunity is better than innoculation.
Peter
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| Elmo P. Shagnasty 2007-07-26, 7:33 am |
| In article <1i1utdm. 1qqjrvl1d0jl2tN%noti
nuse2@btinternet.com>,
notinuse2@btinternet
.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
> Apple don't do low end
> phones any more than they do low end computers.
Mac Mini.
So in fact, Apple does low end computers.
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| On Jul 26, 3:04 am, Steve de Mena <ste...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
> asjbio...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Probably 100 million, not 200 million.
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> " - Nokia 1100 family of phones has sold more than
> 100 million units to date."
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> Nokia press release April 2006.
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> http://press.nokia.com/PR/200604/1045813_5.html
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> Steve- Hide quoted text -
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Why do you think Apple is interested in selling low end phones? THe
1100 is Nokias candy bar stye phone.
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| George Kerby 2007-07-26, 10:33 am |
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On 7/26/07 12:57 AM, in article
1185429421.718266.99060@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com, "asjbiotek@gmail.com"
<asjbiotek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 26, 1:48 am, Alan Baker <alangba...@telus.net> wrote:
>
> It's funny how you morons focus on ONE point i made (when all i wanted
> to show was how big the market is) and cannot argue any others because
> you actually have no arguments that stand.
It's funny why you keep posting here among "morons".
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> hasta la vista, morons.
>
You KNOW that is a lie. You WILL be back.
Like your dick, you just CANNOT keep your hands off of the keyboard...
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| Oxford 2007-07-26, 10:33 am |
| notinuse2@btinternet
.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
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> No they won't, and Nokia won't "go bye-bye". Apple don't do low end
> phones any more than they do low end computers. End of story.
someday they will... the iphone shuffle :)
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| Peter Hayes 2007-07-26, 10:33 am |
| Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <1i1utdm. 1qqjrvl1d0jl2tN%noti
nuse2@btinternet.com>,
> notinuse2@btinternet
.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
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> Mac Mini.
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> So in fact, Apple does low end computers.
The MacMini isn't low-end. I replaced a banshee Shuttle with a Mini.
it's a very nice little machine and knocks spots its Shuttle equivalent.
This is low end,
http://www.dell.com/content/product...inspndt_53x?c=u
s&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
The 530 - Celeron and Vista Home Basic, what could be more low end than
that?
--
Immunity is better than innoculation.
Peter
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| Elmo P. Shagnasty 2007-07-26, 12:33 pm |
| In article <1i1v8ny. 1idqevx1cg76i9N%noti
nuse2@btinternet.com>,
notinuse2@btinternet
.com (Peter Hayes) wrote:
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> The MacMini isn't low-end.
Yes it is. It's CHEAP. Therefore, low end. No accessories--bring your
own. Low end.
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| Steve de Mena 2007-07-26, 3:33 pm |
| KDT wrote:
> On Jul 26, 3:04 am, Steve de Mena <ste...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
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> Why do you think Apple is interested in selling low end phones? THe
> 1100 is Nokias candy bar stye phone.
I never made any comment about what kind of phones
Apple is interested in selling.
I was just correcting that horribly inflated "200
million phones sold" post to reflect the true
number, which is 100 million less.
Steve
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| In article < 46a8f676$0$30617$4c3
68faf@roadrunner.com>, Steve de Mena
<steven@stevedemena.com> wrote:
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> I never made any comment about what kind of phones
> Apple is interested in selling.
>
> I was just correcting that horribly inflated "200
> million phones sold" post to reflect the true
> number, which is 100 million less.
I was hoping someone would comment on the 'candy bar' part.
Maybe someone is under some impression that 'candy bar' implies
'low-end'? Or that some other minor (and probably nonsensical) fault is
true if a phone is flat rather than folding?
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| On Jul 27, 12:50 am, Mitch <mi...@hawaii.rr> wrote:
> In article < 46a8f676$0$30617$4c3
68...@roadrunner.com>, Steve de Mena
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> <ste...@stevedemena.com> wrote:
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> I was hoping someone would comment on the 'candy bar' part.
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> Maybe someone is under some impression that 'candy bar' implies
> 'low-end'? Or that some other minor (and probably nonsensical) fault is
> true if a phone is flat rather than folding?
The candy bar style was just meant to be descriptive. But the candy
bar phones are Nokias low-end, low margin phones.
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