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Article: Where's My Free Wi-Fi?

Ness Net

2007-09-28, 10:33 pm

"Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
news:colalovesmacs-EED02B.18434218092007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
>
> yes, the cell industry is in a state of "collapse", there is no way they
> can compete against the iPhone AND free / or closed WiFi. "the internet"
> is the network, not some proprietary format that is decades old.
>
> cell networks = punch cards
>

Why municipal wireless networks have been such a flop.
http://www.slate.com/id/2174858/

.........cities have labored under the illusion that, somehow, everything
could be built easily and for free by private parties. That illusion has run
straight into the ancient economics of infrastructure and natural monopoly.
The bottom line: City dwellers won't be able to get high-quality wireless
Internet access for free. If they want it, collectively, they'll have to pay
for it.

Bottom line Oxford- WiFi will NEVER even make a very minor dent in
the bottom line of the major cellular companies. Even the minor ones...

It will remain as it is. Nice for WLAN type applications. maybe some
smallish muni
implementations. But large scale? It will NEVER happen. You be smokin'
crack....

To make the statements you continue to make is not only moronic, it clearly
demonstrates
a lack of even the most BASIC knowledge of the subject.

ZnU

2007-09-28, 10:33 pm

In article < kYedne9wGZaM8WDbnZ2d
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s.com>,
"Ness Net" <richard@nomore.damn.spam.nessnet.com> wrote:

> "Oxford" <colalovesmacs@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:colalovesmacs-EED02B.18434218092007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net..
> .
>
> Why municipal wireless networks have been such a flop.
> http://www.slate.com/id/2174858/
>
> ........cities have labored under the illusion that, somehow,
> everything could be built easily and for free by private parties.
> That illusion has run straight into the ancient economics of
> infrastructure and natural monopoly. The bottom line: City dwellers
> won't be able to get high-quality wireless Internet access for free.
> If they want it, collectively, they'll have to pay for it.
>
> Bottom line Oxford- WiFi will NEVER even make a very minor dent in
> the bottom line of the major cellular companies. Even the minor
> ones...
>
> It will remain as it is. Nice for WLAN type applications. maybe some
> smallish muni implementations. But large scale? It will NEVER happen.
> You be smokin' crack....

If by "WiFi" one means specifically the 802.11x technologies currently
on the market, this is almost certainly true.

I wouldn't write off decentralized unlicensed wireless in general as a
long-term threat to traditional mobile operators, though.

> To make the statements you continue to make is not only moronic, it
> clearly demonstrates a lack of even the most BASIC knowledge of the
> subject.

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Scott

2007-09-28, 10:33 pm

ZnU <znu@fake.invalid> wrote in news:znu-1E8CF9.17375328092007
@news.individual.net:

>
> I wouldn't write off decentralized unlicensed wireless in general as a
> long-term threat to traditional mobile operators, though.
>

I would. The american consumer is , if nothing else, lazy and comfortable
with the status quo. This is not a statement specific to communication, but
to every aspect of their life. Unless the government mandates a change,
the average american consumer does not change the technology and goods in
their life until brand-new technology comes along. Wimax will have enough
of a lead over any future version of wifi to make it a fringe product.
Free is not the immediate draw that many would have us believe. Quality
and functionality are the draws, and until wifi is able to hand-off from
hub to hub and provide the spectral efficiency to handle a large number of
users without a degradation of quality, Wimax will always win. And an
improved wifi won't be new technology at that point- it will be yet another
version of wireless transmission.

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