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Richy

2005-10-27, 5:48 am

I've been with Verizon since it was still AirTouch.

Needless to say, normally when someone calls the phone rings. And
normally, if I don't answer and they leave a voicemail, I am notified
of that voicemail within a minute or two.

But occasionally, when someone calls my phone won't ring. And if they
leave a voicemail, that voicemail doesn't get delivered until hours or
even days after they called. What is happening here?

Is this a problem with my phone or with Verizon?

Kyocera 2135

The above problem has been going on sporadically for about the last 3
years.

But I also have a new problem. And that is reception at home. I
recently moved. At my previous residence, I always had all the
reception bars all the time when I was home. But at my new home I get
either no bars or 1 bar or 2 if I'm lucky.

Can I fix either of these two problems by replacing my phone with a
newer/better/different phone?
Quaoar

2005-10-27, 5:48 pm

Richy wrote:
> I've been with Verizon since it was still AirTouch.
>
> Needless to say, normally when someone calls the phone rings. And
> normally, if I don't answer and they leave a voicemail, I am notified
> of that voicemail within a minute or two.
>
> But occasionally, when someone calls my phone won't ring. And if they
> leave a voicemail, that voicemail doesn't get delivered until hours or
> even days after they called. What is happening here?
>
> Is this a problem with my phone or with Verizon?
>
> Kyocera 2135
>
> The above problem has been going on sporadically for about the last 3
> years.
>
> But I also have a new problem. And that is reception at home. I
> recently moved. At my previous residence, I always had all the
> reception bars all the time when I was home. But at my new home I get
> either no bars or 1 bar or 2 if I'm lucky.
>
> Can I fix either of these two problems by replacing my phone with a
> newer/better/different phone?


You might get better reception with a newer phone. Many of the new
phones no longer have analog that you would benefit from for fringe
reception, so you would have to try a new phone to see if there is any
benefit. All of these problems can be traced to poor or no reception.

Q


Tester

2005-10-28, 5:48 pm

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:59:55 GMT, Richy <no@spam.here> wrote:

>I've been with Verizon since it was still AirTouch.
>
>Needless to say, normally when someone calls the phone rings. And
>normally, if I don't answer and they leave a voicemail, I am notified
>of that voicemail within a minute or two.
>
>But occasionally, when someone calls my phone won't ring. And if they
>leave a voicemail, that voicemail doesn't get delivered until hours or
>even days after they called. What is happening here?
>
>Is this a problem with my phone or with Verizon?
>
>Kyocera 2135
>
>The above problem has been going on sporadically for about the last 3
>years.
>
>But I also have a new problem. And that is reception at home. I
>recently moved. At my previous residence, I always had all the
>reception bars all the time when I was home. But at my new home I get
>either no bars or 1 bar or 2 if I'm lucky.
>
>Can I fix either of these two problems by replacing my phone with a
>newer/better/different phone?


I understand the phone not ringing if no reception for the moment.
I don't understand the message or voice mail taking hours or days to
Show up once you have service again.
Example: Walk in to a store, reception may cut in and out. Wife calls
and
Phone won't ring due to the cut out of reception. Get back out side
the voice mail
Should ring though in a few minutes not days
Richy

2005-10-29, 2:48 am

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:56:17 -0600, "Quaoar" <quaoar@tenthplanet.net>
wrote:

>Richy wrote:
>
>You might get better reception with a newer phone. Many of the new
>phones no longer have analog that you would benefit from for fringe
>reception, so you would have to try a new phone to see if there is any
>benefit. All of these problems can be traced to poor or no reception.
>
>Q
>


Any particular brand? Would I just have to buy one and try it to see
if it improves my reception?

Is there really any chance that the phone itself is going to make any
difference? Or is it more a function of my location?

What about a differerent carrier? Would that make any difference or do
all the carriers use (share) the same cell towers or whatever?
The Ghost of General Lee

2005-10-29, 2:48 am

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 04:38:21 GMT, Richy <no@spam.here> wrote:

>Any particular brand? Would I just have to buy one and try it to see
>if it improves my reception?
>
>Is there really any chance that the phone itself is going to make any
>difference? Or is it more a function of my location?
>
>What about a differerent carrier? Would that make any difference or do
>all the carriers use (share) the same cell towers or whatever?


In my experience, Kyoceras have been pretty good phones. I still have
a Kyo-3035 and love it. I too had signal issues at home when I first
bought the phone, but those problems went away when VZW finally
brought a new site online about 1.2 miles away. So, I guess that
gives you part of your answer right there.

As for VM taking days to reach you, it too could be an issue of
reception, but a number of threads have been posted here about the
same problem with various models of phones, so I suspect capacity
issues or other system problems in your area.

As for a different carrier, they may or may not make a difference.
Sure, some carriers will share towers, but if Cingular is operating
1900Mhz GSM and VZW is operating 800Mhz CDMA on the same tower, it's
like comparing apples and oranges.

Your best bet for now may be to try an external antenna, or switch
carriers. I have serious doubts it's a phone issue. But to be sure,
why not find a friend who has VZW service and borrow their phone to
test at your home. If you get the same poor results, you can pretty
much rule out the phone.

Steve Sobol

2005-10-29, 2:48 am

The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 04:38:21 GMT, Richy <no@spam.here> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> In my experience, Kyoceras have been pretty good phones.


They have great reception like Motorola CDMA handsets, without the
exorbitant prices. I had a 3035 and 2325 when I was on Verizon and liked 'em
both (tho I liked the 2325 more).

--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek 888-480-4638 PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
Company website: http://JustThe.net/
Personal blog, resume, portfolio: http://SteveSobol.com/
E: sjsobol@JustThe.net Snail: 22674 Motnocab Road, Apple Valley, CA 92307
RVer Don

2005-10-29, 2:48 am



> Is there really any chance that the phone itself is going to make any
> difference? Or is it more a function of my location?


I have this same problem. Location doesn't seem to matter. I have dialed
my cell phone from my home phone with the cell phone right next to the home
phone. Most times it will ring normally before going to voice mail. But
every once in awhile it will go immediately to voice mail and the phone
never rings at all.

Don in Tracy, Calif.


Scott Ehrlich

2005-10-29, 5:48 pm

In article <ibqdnRhuztvKlv7eRVn-rw@comcast.com>,
RVer Don < burallymaster@comcas
t.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>I have this same problem. Location doesn't seem to matter. I have dialed
>my cell phone from my home phone with the cell phone right next to the home
>phone. Most times it will ring normally before going to voice mail. But
>every once in awhile it will go immediately to voice mail and the phone
>never rings at all.
>
>Don in Tracy, Calif.
>
>


I currently work in downtown Boston, where Verizon does an excellent job.
My office has two large windows overlooking the airport. I generally
have five bars, regardless of whether the antenna is raised or retracted.

If I swing my chair in circle, the reception can quickly go from full, to
nothing, then back to full.

Sometimes I get instantly notified of an incoming call. Other times, I
will only get voicemail a few minutes later. The phone has been in the
same spot the whole time.

What is my point? Although a carrier (Verizon) can have excellent
coverage where you are, and the phone (in my case, an older but
still very reliable Motorola) receive excellent ratings and performance,
the combination can prove to not always work 100% no matter what.

If you like Verizon and have good success with them, stay with them. If
you have a contract with them, and are not near completion of said
contract, see if you can swap the phone with another of the same type. If
you have had the same phone for a while, bring it into the store and see
if a software upgrade might help before possible swapping it. If you are
at the end of your contract, look for a new phone. If you are on prepay,
maybe it is time to simply get a new phone?

Hope that helps.

Scott
The Ghost of General Lee

2005-10-29, 5:48 pm

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:31:03 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
wrote:

>I had a 3035 and 2325 when I was on Verizon and liked 'em
>both (tho I liked the 2325 more).


OOC, why did you like the 2325 more than the 3035? My mother still
has her 2325, and if pressed, I don't think I'd trade with her. Was
it the 3035's nav button?

Michael

2005-10-29, 5:48 pm

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 06:59:55 GMT, Richy <no@spam.here> wrote:[color=darkred
]
>
I've got the same problem with Alltel. People leave voicemail and it can be
hours and even days before I get notified. I have noticed that if I check
for voicemail it will be there even though I received no notification. It's
very annoying and I'm considering switching carriers, but it seems the
problem may not be confined to Alltel.

mike


Richy

2005-10-29, 11:48 pm

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:31:03 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
wrote:

>The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
>
>They have great reception like Motorola CDMA handsets, without the
>exorbitant prices. I had a 3035 and 2325 when I was on Verizon and liked 'em
>both (tho I liked the 2325 more).


So you guys think I should just stick with my Kyocera 2135? I have to
try something. I have no bars when I'm at home. No matter what
direction I'm facing. It's terrible. I used to have all four bars all
the time at my old home. I never thought moving to a new place could
have such a detrimental effect on reception. And I'm only a few miles
down the road from where I used to live!

Steve Sobol

2005-10-30, 2:48 am

The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:31:03 -0700, Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> OOC, why did you like the 2325 more than the 3035? My mother still
> has her 2325, and if pressed, I don't think I'd trade with her. Was
> it the 3035's nav button?


Partially. That button was a piece of crap. :D

The 3035 wasn't 1x-capable either.

--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek 888-480-4638 PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
Company website: http://JustThe.net/
Personal blog, resume, portfolio: http://SteveSobol.com/
E: sjsobol@JustThe.net Snail: 22674 Motnocab Road, Apple Valley, CA 92307
The Ghost of General Lee

2005-10-30, 2:48 am

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:51:43 GMT, Richy <no@spam.here> wrote:

>
>So you guys think I should just stick with my Kyocera 2135? I have to
>try something. I have no bars when I'm at home. No matter what
>direction I'm facing. It's terrible. I used to have all four bars all
>the time at my old home. I never thought moving to a new place could
>have such a detrimental effect on reception. And I'm only a few miles
>down the road from where I used to live!


Again, I'd have to suggest trying to find a friend who has VZW service
and try their phone at your home. If theirs gets poor service, too,
and you want to stay with VZW, then you'll have to start harping on
VZW to do something about the service in that area. The solution may
range from the expense and difficulty of installing a new cell site to
the relative simplicity of reaiming an antenna on an existing site.
If you want a quicker, easier solution, you'll probably have to change
providers, or go with an external antenna or perhaps even a repeater
system for your home.

But, if theirs gets significantly better service, then it's likely
your phone, and a simple phone upgrade will probably suffice. Just be
mindful of the cancellation grace periods when you re-sign, and if
your new phone doesn't give the service quality you need, then you can
cancel without penalty and go with someone else.

Good luck!

Richy

2005-10-30, 2:48 am

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:01:18 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> wrote:

>external antenna


Didn't know such an animal existed.
The Ghost of General Lee

2005-10-30, 2:48 am

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 05:12:56 GMT, Richy <no@spam.ming> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:01:18 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
><ghost@general.lee> wrote:
>
>
>Didn't know such an animal existed.


Check these sites:

http://www.wilsonelectronics.com
http://www.cellantenna.com
http://www.criterioncellular.com/antennas/

Be sure to check for phone compatibility. You may need a special
adapter for your particular model.

Richy

2005-10-30, 5:48 pm

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:27:08 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> wrote:

>On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 05:12:56 GMT, Richy <no@spam.ming> wrote:
>
>
>Check these sites:
>
>http://www.wilsonelectronics.com
>http://www.cellantenna.com
>http://www.criterioncellular.com/antennas/
>
>Be sure to check for phone compatibility. You may need a special
>adapter for your particular model.



Cool. First I'll check the reception on the phones of other Verizon
users while at my home. If the reception on their phones is poor also
then I may need to get one of these antennas.

On the http://www.cellantenna.com/Antennas/yagi.htm page, Model CAY810
looks like a good deal. It says it works with Verizon 806-896 MHZ
band. The square shaped one is for Verizon "PCS" 1850-1990 MHZ band,
which I don't think I have.
The Ghost of General Lee

2005-10-30, 11:48 pm

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 20:24:46 GMT, Richy <no@spam.ming> wrote:

>On the http://www.cellantenna.com/Antennas/yagi.htm page, Model CAY810
>looks like a good deal. It says it works with Verizon 806-896 MHZ
>band. The square shaped one is for Verizon "PCS" 1850-1990 MHZ band,
>which I don't think I have.


Double check with VZW to see which band they use in your area. Or you
can post your location (city and state) here and someone may already
know which one they use there.

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