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Author Re: can I flash my own Startac 7868w w/latest firmware? and... where to get it?
David L

2005-05-24, 10:55 pm

I have a couple of startacs with the atest firmare. About the only
thing the latest version does is add movile web and ext meassaging
capability.The web is way to hard to read on the phone and the test
messaging output doesn't have an kind of T-9 predictive test input,
which means it's very slow and pinful to send a test message.

I've taken my startacs out on numerous occaision to fringe areas and
modern phones have much better digital reception. As far as analog my
Audiovox 9500 is just as good if not better.
The only thing about the startac that is better is the voice quality,
since it is pre 1xrtt and the form factor.

If you hunt carefully among some of the more modern phones, you can get
a phone with nearly as good analog reception and a much better digital
reception and a whole lot better screen and feature set.

Many more modern handsets still have an external antenna adapter which
will provide excellent analog fringe performance in a pinch.

I loved my startac, but after LOTS of side by side reception with many
more modern phones. My Audiovox 9500 is still better, the v60i is just
about as good.

Digital reception, for the Startac has been eclipsed by most modern
phones as well.

In short a firmware upgrade isn't going to add a lot more to the 7868
useability.

It's probably cheaper to buy a 7868 refurb, than find a VZW store to do
an update. The Canadian made Timeport is another good option, instead
of the Chinese built 7868. The keypads on the 7868 are one of the first
parts to fail in my experience.

Forget the milliwatt ratings and try a real comparison with some
friends current model cell phones in a fringe analog area. You might be
surprised how little difference the specs makes.
AN unactivated phone can still be used to call 611 for test calls.

Sure there are some real dog analog performers, just about any phone
with a stub antenna will be poor.

Generally, the longer antenna the better the fringe analog reception.

-
David

Reuben L

2005-05-26, 6:55 am

I did some reading that said that the newer firmware did some other
improvements as well- something about it's 'sleep' function or whatever.

but basically, you're right- I just want to update it "because I can...!"

are there other flip-phones besides the Audiovox 9500 you'd recommend? I
like thin and small, w/a real (retractable) antenna.... and I care not a
lick for color screens, other features like that. I have a Palm Pilot, and
a computer for that other stuff!

~R.


"David L" <davlindi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

> I have a couple of startacs with the atest firmare. About the only
> thing the latest version does is add movile web and ext meassaging
> capability.The web is way to hard to read on the phone and the test
> messaging output doesn't have an kind of T-9 predictive test input,
> which means it's very slow and pinful to send a test message.
>
> I've taken my startacs out on numerous occaision to fringe areas and
> modern phones have much better digital reception. As far as analog my
> Audiovox 9500 is just as good if not better.
> The only thing about the startac that is better is the voice quality,
> since it is pre 1xrtt and the form factor.
>
> If you hunt carefully among some of the more modern phones, you can get
> a phone with nearly as good analog reception and a much better digital
> reception and a whole lot better screen and feature set.
>
> Many more modern handsets still have an external antenna adapter which
> will provide excellent analog fringe performance in a pinch.
>
> I loved my startac, but after LOTS of side by side reception with many
> more modern phones. My Audiovox 9500 is still better, the v60i is just
> about as good.
>
> Digital reception, for the Startac has been eclipsed by most modern
> phones as well.
>
> In short a firmware upgrade isn't going to add a lot more to the 7868
> useability.
>
> It's probably cheaper to buy a 7868 refurb, than find a VZW store to do
> an update. The Canadian made Timeport is another good option, instead
> of the Chinese built 7868. The keypads on the 7868 are one of the first
> parts to fail in my experience.
>
> Forget the milliwatt ratings and try a real comparison with some
> friends current model cell phones in a fringe analog area. You might be
> surprised how little difference the specs makes.
> AN unactivated phone can still be used to call 611 for test calls.
>
> Sure there are some real dog analog performers, just about any phone
> with a stub antenna will be poor.
>
> Generally, the longer antenna the better the fringe analog reception.
>
> -
> David
>



Dean

2005-05-27, 4:55 pm

Yes, the latest firmware was supposed to solve the problem of the phone not
"waking up" on occasion. I never had the problem, but got almost all my
StarTacs upgraded while it was still free to do so.

My bet is you will eventually find a Verizon store with the equipment and
software to do the job, but they'll charge you.

Another solution--I started accumulating StarTacs a couple of years ago from
friends who "upgraded" their phones, and I went a little overboard. I have 4
or 5 of them in excellent shape, all with the newer firmware, so they are
able to do 2-way SMS. You can buy one for about the same as they will charge
you to upgrade, and you'll have a spare phone.

Dean
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"Reuben L" <ReubenL1 --AT-- hotmail.com> wrote in message
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quote:

>I did some reading that said that the newer firmware did some other
> improvements as well- something about it's 'sleep' function or whatever.
>
> but basically, you're right- I just want to update it "because I can...!"
>
> are there other flip-phones besides the Audiovox 9500 you'd recommend? I
> like thin and small, w/a real (retractable) antenna.... and I care not a
> lick for color screens, other features like that. I have a Palm Pilot,
> and
> a computer for that other stuff!
>
> ~R.
>
>
> "David L" <davlindi@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1116982766.259204.55350@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>



Larry W4CSC

2005-05-27, 10:55 pm

"Dean" <dean173@yahoo.com> wrote in news:OSFle.4558$Fb.2884@trndny07:
quote:

> Another solution--I started accumulating StarTacs a couple of years
> ago from friends who "upgraded" their phones, and I went a little
> overboard. I have 4 or 5 of them in excellent shape, all with the
> newer firmware, so they are able to do 2-way SMS. You can buy one for
> about the same as they will charge you to upgrade, and you'll have a
> spare phone.
>
> Dean
> _


Shhhh....I have a 99 cent, 3W bagphone in each car. It WILL call 911 on
whichever A or B system it likes....whether the goddamned company
bureaucrats want it to or not....(c; No dead battery...plugs into ciggie
lighter.

Everyone should have one in their trunk..just in case. It'll call the cops
or an ambulance when all the picture-taking gizmophones are dead meat.

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