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| Seriously...yea, I still use and have Verizon. I XXXXX and complain about
them all the time since they hire complete idiots and suck money right out
of people with unethical business practices but my god man...where the XXXX
are some decent phones with this company? While GSM and others have over 20
Bluetooth models easily...this shit company has what...2 or 3? Hell, I'd
like to use a wireless headset one XXXXing day, but with this shit XXX
company your options are so god damn limited to the phones it's pathetic.
I'd still be weary about buying a new Bluetooth from this place anyway since
I've heard stories about how the money sucker bastards cripple features of
the phone so you have to use certain procedures that just suck more money
out of you. Sheesh....rat bastards!
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| Xman wrote:
> Seriously...yea, I still use and have Verizon. I XXXXX and complain about
> them all the time since they hire complete idiots and suck money right out
> of people with unethical business practices but my god man...where the XXXX
> are some decent phones with this company? While GSM and others have over 20
> Bluetooth models easily...this shit company has what...2 or 3? Hell, I'd
> like to use a wireless headset one XXXXing day, but with this shit XXX
> company your options are so god damn limited to the phones it's pathetic.
> I'd still be weary about buying a new Bluetooth from this place anyway since
> I've heard stories about how the money sucker bastards cripple features of
> the phone so you have to use certain procedures that just suck more money
> out of you. Sheesh....rat bastards!
>
>
The rumors are just that: rumors. They can't modify bluetooth, it's a
regulated standard. As for money-sucking/bad phone availability: my
store has always carried a crapload of phones, all of which are
reasonably priced (except for the PDA phones, which are ungodly
expensive no matter where you go). Oh, and I have yet to meet an idiot
working there. I can't speak for other places, but here, Verizon is THE
best.
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| Hey Sean
What do you know about the Verizon/Vodaphone relationship. It's too bad VZW
isn't GSM that way people would have the best GSM network here in the US and
the largest network in Europe too. I just got back from Europe and borrowed
a GSM (MOt Razr) phone to use there on T-Mobile. Thinking that T-Mobile was
the biggest and best. Found out differently when I got outside Germany. Also
they (Vodaphone) have a plan in Europe that looks just like our Americas
Choice. The brochures and everything look the same except it says Vodaphone.
I almost bought the Samsung world phone but the cost!!!!!!!!! Way too much
for what doesn't seem to be that great of a phone. So I got 3 new Mot 815's
instead. BTW we originally got 710's but boy were they buggy and the screens
and cameras basically not so good. Amazing how much better the 815 is.
Anyway it would be really cool if VZW went GSM and we could have "World
Choice" instead of Americas Choice ;-)
Larry
"Sean" <someguy@someplace.net> wrote in message
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> Xman wrote:
> The rumors are just that: rumors. They can't modify bluetooth, it's a
> regulated standard. As for money-sucking/bad phone availability: my store
> has always carried a crapload of phones, all of which are reasonably
> priced (except for the PDA phones, which are ungodly expensive no matter
> where you go). Oh, and I have yet to meet an idiot working there. I
> can't speak for other places, but here, Verizon is THE best.
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| Joseph 2005-08-21, 5:48 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:52:49 -0400, "Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote:
>...where the XXXX
>are some decent phones with this company? While GSM and others have over 20
>Bluetooth models easily...this shit company has what...2 or 3? Hell, I'd
>like to use a wireless headset one XXXXing day, but with this shit XXX
>company your options are so god damn limited to the phones it's pathetic.
So quit whining and go to cingular or T-Mobile with GSM and use any
compatible phone with bluetooth that you like. Evidently bluetooth is
that important to you. If that's the case the solution's obvious!
Verizon can do whatever the heck they want to. They're not obligated
to bring out phones or features. They figure they have the upper hand
in better coverage so they don't have to offer phones or rates as low
as the others. It's your choice. Go with what works for you.
Whining about Verizon's policies won't change anything. Pick yourself
up and go to cingular or T-Mobile. You may be happier then or maybe
you won't.
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| Mij Adyaw 2005-08-21, 5:48 pm |
| GSM is an inferior protocol to CDMA.
"jdoe" <jdoe@msn.com> wrote in message
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> Hey Sean
> What do you know about the Verizon/Vodaphone relationship. It's too bad
> VZW isn't GSM that way people would have the best GSM network here in the
> US and the largest network in Europe too. I just got back from Europe and
> borrowed a GSM (MOt Razr) phone to use there on T-Mobile. Thinking that
> T-Mobile was the biggest and best. Found out differently when I got
> outside Germany. Also they (Vodaphone) have a plan in Europe that looks
> just like our Americas Choice. The brochures and everything look the same
> except it says Vodaphone. I almost bought the Samsung world phone but the
> cost!!!!!!!!! Way too much for what doesn't seem to be that great of a
> phone. So I got 3 new Mot 815's instead. BTW we originally got 710's but
> boy were they buggy and the screens and cameras basically not so good.
> Amazing how much better the 815 is. Anyway it would be really cool if VZW
> went GSM and we could have "World Choice" instead of Americas Choice ;-)
> Larry
> "Sean" <someguy@someplace.net> wrote in message
> news:59KdnUQCAM_e2JX
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>
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| Joseph wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 00:52:49 -0400, "Xman"
> <cdripper@rip,net> wrote:
>
>
> So quit whining and go to cingular or T-Mobile with GSM
> and use any compatible phone with bluetooth that you
> like. Evidently bluetooth is that important to you. If
> that's the case the solution's obvious!
He did that! He got a cool phone. Sometime later he
wanted to make phone calls too. He came back. One
of VZW's most loyal customers. Xman pretty much
defines "company man".
-Quick
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| Steve Sobol 2005-08-21, 5:48 pm |
| jdoe wrote:
> Hey Sean
> What do you know about the Verizon/Vodaphone relationship.
I know Vodafone has not had a high degree of involvement. I know that they'd
rather own a GSM carrier in the US, and I know that they have, in the past,
wanted to get out of the joint venture.
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| Jerome Zelinske 2005-08-21, 11:48 pm |
| It would be really stupid if verizon downgraded from 3G cdma to 2g gsm.
gsm can not do as much and what it can do costs more. It would be
really stupid for verizon to switch from cdma to gsm to wcdma. When USA
gsm carriers finally upgrade to wcdma, it will still be inferior to the
then current CDMA of verizon and Sprint PCS.
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| Scott Ehrlich 2005-08-21, 11:48 pm |
| In article <Nm7Oe.9519$WD.5465@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
> It would be really stupid if verizon downgraded from 3G cdma to 2g gsm.
> gsm can not do as much and what it can do costs more. It would be
>really stupid for verizon to switch from cdma to gsm to wcdma. When USA
>gsm carriers finally upgrade to wcdma, it will still be inferior to the
>then current CDMA of verizon and Sprint PCS.
And let's not forget not ALL countries use GSM. I think China and a
couple other countries use CDMA.
Anyway, buttom line always is not who makes the best phone or has the best
plans, but who provides the best reception for where you need service.
Scott
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| Joseph 2005-08-21, 11:48 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:43:12 GMT, "Quick"
<quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>He did that! He got a cool phone. Sometime later he
>wanted to make phone calls too. He came back. One
>of VZW's most loyal customers. Xman pretty much
>defines "company man".
Like I said. You want the bestest coverage you go with Verizon. You
want the kewlest phones you go with cingular or T-Mobile or get your
GSM phone outside of the carrier. Unfortunately it's either one or
the other either kewl phones or the best coverage. Evidently Verizon
doesn't believe they have an obligation to bring out the latest and
greatest phones. Know that and make your choice on what's the most
important thing to you price, different models or the best coverage.+
- -
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| Joseph 2005-08-21, 11:48 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:28:10 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.net>
wrote:
>GSM is an inferior protocol to CDMA.
And your momma dresses you funny too! :)
Silly. You're not supposed to trash GSM you're supposed to trash the
other carriers Sprint PCS, T-Mobile, Nextel and cingular! What's the
matter with you? Don't you know who you're supposed to trash?!
Sheesh these amateurs!
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| Mij Adyaw 2005-08-21, 11:48 pm |
| Remember VHS and Beta video tape? VHS won-out and was clearly inferior.
"Scott Ehrlich" <scott@mit.edu> wrote in message
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b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu...
> In article <Nm7Oe.9519$WD.5465@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> Jerome Zelinske <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
> And let's not forget not ALL countries use GSM. I think China and a
> couple other countries use CDMA.
>
> Anyway, buttom line always is not who makes the best phone or has the best
> plans, but who provides the best reception for where you need service.
>
> Scott
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| Mij Adyaw 2005-08-21, 11:48 pm |
| I would not trash SprintPCS since I switched from Verizon to SprintPCS and
could not be happier. :-)
"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:28:10 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> And your momma dresses you funny too! :)
>
> Silly. You're not supposed to trash GSM you're supposed to trash the
> other carriers Sprint PCS, T-Mobile, Nextel and cingular! What's the
> matter with you? Don't you know who you're supposed to trash?!
> Sheesh these amateurs!
>
> - -
>
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| Mij Adyaw 2005-08-21, 11:48 pm |
| I really liked Verizon and would never have switched, however Verizon did
not provide reliable coverage in my area in Southern California. Sprint had
a cell site on a small building down the street from my home; hence the
reason that I went with Sprint. Verizon checked the signal in my area and
allowed me to terminate my two year contract. Both Verizon and SprintPCS
rule!!
"Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:CE9Oe.29904$Ji4.2857@fed1read03...
>I would not trash SprintPCS since I switched from Verizon to SprintPCS and
>could not be happier. :-)
>
> "Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rm8ig19etvicsk0
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>
>
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| O god...another piss ant XXXX face here. I was just getting used to Richard
and Quick with their all typical anal comments and you sound just like them!
A little prancy type anal fag. It's ok....people like you are all over the
newsgroups and usually don't have their opinion or couldn't keep their own
because they have to follow and just agree with the popular. As I get my fly
swatter out to get rid of you...
"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:43:12 GMT, "Quick"
> <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Like I said. You want the bestest coverage you go with Verizon. You
> want the kewlest phones you go with cingular or T-Mobile or get your
> GSM phone outside of the carrier. Unfortunately it's either one or
> the other either kewl phones or the best coverage. Evidently Verizon
> doesn't believe they have an obligation to bring out the latest and
> greatest phones. Know that and make your choice on what's the most
> important thing to you price, different models or the best coverage.+
>
> - -
>
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|
| You've never met an idiot in a Verizon store? My god man...then you just
haven't visited a store really. These aren't rumors anal head....Verizon
specifically disables functions of their bluetooth phones to suck money out
of you....but you like that so it's ok for you.
"Sean" <someguy@someplace.net> wrote in message
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eRVn-iQ@midco.net...
> Xman wrote:
> The rumors are just that: rumors. They can't modify bluetooth, it's a
> regulated standard. As for money-sucking/bad phone availability: my store
> has always carried a crapload of phones, all of which are reasonably
> priced (except for the PDA phones, which are ungodly expensive no matter
> where you go). Oh, and I have yet to meet an idiot working there. I
> can't speak for other places, but here, Verizon is THE best.
| |
|
| I can't decide who I dislike more....you are Richard Ness. I really thought
I had some love for you guys since we go way back....but your typical all
general popular vote comments are so lame and shallow my dog could have
written a better response. Gimme a XXXXing good quality Bluetooth phone with
no features disabled. Then I may just stop bitching.
I know you guys love me...if you didn't, you'd block me out already.
"Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Joseph wrote:
>
> He did that! He got a cool phone. Sometime later he
> wanted to make phone calls too. He came back. One
> of VZW's most loyal customers. Xman pretty much
> defines "company man".
>
> -Quick
>
>
| |
|
| Xman wrote:
> You've never met an idiot in a Verizon store? My god man...then you just
> haven't visited a store really. These aren't rumors anal head....Verizon
> specifically disables functions of their bluetooth phones to suck money out
> of you....but you like that so it's ok for you.
>
> "Sean" <someguy@someplace.net> wrote in message
> news:59KdnUQCAM_e2JX
eRVn-iQ@midco.net...
>
>
>
>
Despite your act of Sean-bashing I'll still answer your earlier
question. Seriously though, people don't usually like being dissed:
what's true where you live isn't necessarily true everywhere, and here
the Verizon people are competent. Anyway, if this argument is over, I'm
going to reply to your question.
| |
|
| jdoe wrote:
> Hey Sean
> What do you know about the Verizon/Vodaphone relationship. It's too bad VZW
> isn't GSM that way people would have the best GSM network here in the US and
> the largest network in Europe too. I just got back from Europe and borrowed
> a GSM (MOt Razr) phone to use there on T-Mobile. Thinking that T-Mobile was
> the biggest and best. Found out differently when I got outside Germany. Also
> they (Vodaphone) have a plan in Europe that looks just like our Americas
> Choice. The brochures and everything look the same except it says Vodaphone.
> I almost bought the Samsung world phone but the cost!!!!!!!!! Way too much
> for what doesn't seem to be that great of a phone. So I got 3 new Mot 815's
> instead. BTW we originally got 710's but boy were they buggy and the screens
> and cameras basically not so good. Amazing how much better the 815 is.
> Anyway it would be really cool if VZW went GSM and we could have "World
> Choice" instead of Americas Choice ;-)
> Larry
> "Sean" <someguy@someplace.net> wrote in message
> news:59KdnUQCAM_e2JX
eRVn-iQ@midco.net...
>
>
>
>
As far as I know, Verizon and Vodaphone are only very loosely related to
each other. As for not using GSM, almost all cell phone networks in the
US use CDMA, and becuase of that, it would be a very time-consuming and
painful process to just switch over from CDMA to GSM.
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|
| It's all about volume here in NJ. There's nothing else involved except how
many people they can sign up or renew contracts. They seriously do not care
about satisfying customer's at all. Plain and simple.
Take a ride here and you'll wonder how people get by....and while you are
still trying to figure out what the sales rep said he's already onto
two-three other customer's. If you don't think quick here, you are doomed.
"Sean" <someguy@someplace.net> wrote in message
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> Xman wrote:
> Despite your act of Sean-bashing I'll still answer your earlier question.
> Seriously though, people don't usually like being dissed: what's true
> where you live isn't necessarily true everywhere, and here the Verizon
> people are competent. Anyway, if this argument is over, I'm going to
> reply to your question.
| |
|
| On
>Xman wrote:
>Despite your act of Sean-bashing I'll still answer your earlier
>question. Seriously though, people don't usually like being dissed:
>what's true where you live isn't necessarily true everywhere, and here
>the Verizon people are competent. Anyway, if this argument is over, I'm
>going to reply to your question.
Oops, it wasn't your question, it was jdoe's. It's there anyway, though.
| |
| Quaoar 2005-08-22, 5:48 pm |
| Sean wrote:
> Xman wrote:
> The rumors are just that: rumors. They can't modify bluetooth, it's a
> regulated standard. As for money-sucking/bad phone availability: my
> store has always carried a crapload of phones, all of which are
> reasonably priced (except for the PDA phones, which are ungodly
> expensive no matter where you go). Oh, and I have yet to meet an
> idiot working there. I can't speak for other places, but here,
> Verizon is THE best.
Verizon can and does modify BT. Anyone can contract for whatever
limited use they want to use BT for. BT is not a regulated standard.
Most of us have *expectations* for BT equipment, based on BT's known
capabilities. Verizon's implementation is an exception.
Q
| |
|
| On
>Sean wrote:
>
>Verizon can and does modify BT. Anyone can contract for whatever
>limited use they want to use BT for. BT is not a regulated standard.
>Most of us have *expectations* for BT equipment, based on BT's known
>capabilities. Verizon's implementation is an exception.
>
>Q
>
>
Oh, my bad. Just have to hack the phone, then! (^.^)
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| CellGuy 2005-08-22, 5:48 pm |
| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:42:31 -0700, Mij Adyaw wrote:
> I really liked Verizon and would never have switched, however Verizon did
> not provide reliable coverage in my area in Southern California. Sprint had
> a cell site on a small building down the street from my home; hence the
> reason that I went with Sprint. Verizon checked the signal in my area and
> allowed me to terminate my two year contract. Both Verizon and SprintPCS
> rule!!
Everyone has a "best" carrier from home. It's when you travel you have to
check things out <G>.
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| CellGuy 2005-08-22, 5:48 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:22:24 -0400, Xman wrote:
> Gimme a XXXXing good quality Bluetooth phone with
> no features disabled. Then I may just stop bitching.
Then get one from Cingular, T-Mobile, etc. and quit bitching. Verizon
doesn't have to model their business plan around your desires....
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| Ben Skversky 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| Go to T-Mobile's web site & look at their phones. I don't see anything there
that's so "kewl" as you put it. They do have good GSM cell phones to look at
though. I've been with them for a month now after ten years with VZW. Their
service is pretty good too. I get 1000 minutes on my family plan for only
$70. All calls go through & the four free Samsung camera phones are good
too. Oh, did I mention, only a 12 month contract.
"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:43:12 GMT, "Quick"
> <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Like I said. You want the bestest coverage you go with Verizon. You
> want the kewlest phones you go with cingular or T-Mobile or get your
> GSM phone outside of the carrier. Unfortunately it's either one or
> the other either kewl phones or the best coverage. Evidently Verizon
> doesn't believe they have an obligation to bring out the latest and
> greatest phones. Know that and make your choice on what's the most
> important thing to you price, different models or the best coverage.+
>
> - -
>
| |
| Isaiah Beard 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| jdoe wrote:
> Hey Sean
> What do you know about the Verizon/Vodaphone relationship. It's too bad VZW
> isn't GSM that way people would have the best GSM network here in the US and
> the largest network in Europe too.
I beg to differ. Going to GSM would be one amazing leap backward for
Verizon, particularly considering that most GSM carriers are looking to
migrate to UMTS (WCDMA)in the future.
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| Isaiah Beard 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| Scott Ehrlich wrote:
> In article <Nm7Oe.9519$WD.5465@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> And let's not forget not ALL countries use GSM. I think China and a
> couple other countries use CDMA.
Actually, you can no longer use a GSM phone in Japan. Now it is all
variants of CDMA, and you must have either a UMTS or CDMA handset.
> Anyway, buttom line always is not who makes the best phone or has the best
> plans, but who provides the best reception for where you need service.
Exactly. Even people how travel internationally to GSM-only countries
would do well to just get a cheap unlocked GSM handset off eBay and use
a prepaid SIM in the location they plan to use their service. It's
cheaper in the long run tahn dealing with the ienternaional roaming
charges from the US carrier back home.
And if using your US mobile number is really worth it to you, you can
still roam on GSM internationally if your home carrier is CDMA, using
the Samsung A790. It's expensive, but then if you're willing to pay
international roaming, then maybe cost isn't your concern to begin with. :)
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| Mij Adyaw 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| Exactly. I did both.
"CellGuy" < cellguy@seemessagebo
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> On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 18:42:31 -0700, Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
>
> Everyone has a "best" carrier from home. It's when you travel you have
> to
> check things out <G>.
| |
| Isaiah Beard 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
|
> As far as I know, Verizon and Vodaphone are only very loosely related to
> each other. As for not using GSM, almost all cell phone networks in the
> US use CDMA,
Well, it USED to be that way, but for now, Cingular and TMobile do make
up a significant portion of GSM users. That said though, both GSM
carriers will eventually upgrade to WCDMA.
> and becuase of that, it would be a very time-consuming and
> painful process to just switch over from CDMA to GSM.
Agreed, just like the transition from TDMA to GSM has been painful for
end users andlabor intensive for the carriers, and the same will be true
for the UMTS transition. The straight CDMA carriers, however, have had
a pretty seamless transition with each upgrade.
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| Joseph 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:10:08 GMT, "Ben Skversky"
<bskversky1@verizon.net> wrote:
>Go to T-Mobile's web site & look at their phones. I don't see anything there
>that's so "kewl" as you put it. They do have good GSM cell phones to look at
>though. I've been with them for a month now after ten years with VZW. Their
>service is pretty good too. I get 1000 minutes on my family plan for only
>$70. All calls go through & the four free Samsung camera phones are good
>too. Oh, did I mention, only a 12 month contract.
Maybe it didn't say so in the original message, but with GSM you can
get whatever phone you want as long as it works in the frequencies in
your area. That's not the case with CDMA which is what Verizon and
Sprint PCS use.
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| Mij Adyaw 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| Yup, just don't expect to use your GSM phone reliably in NYC. We have
several folks that work for my company that tried this. They switched back
to Verizon and our company ate the ETF. YMMV.
-mij
"Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:10:08 GMT, "Ben Skversky"
> <bskversky1@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
> Maybe it didn't say so in the original message, but with GSM you can
> get whatever phone you want as long as it works in the frequencies in
> your area. That's not the case with CDMA which is what Verizon and
> Sprint PCS use.
>
> - -
>
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| Ben Skversky 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| Don't know about New York, but I was in Fort Lee NJ today & had no problems
with my phone. I made 5 calls & received four. I'll leave the rest up to you
experts.
"Mij Adyaw" <mijadyaw@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Yup, just don't expect to use your GSM phone reliably in NYC. We have
> several folks that work for my company that tried this. They switched back
> to Verizon and our company ate the ETF. YMMV.
>
> -mij
>
> "Joseph" <JoeOfSeattle@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Richard Ness 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| Me = engineer (EE)
Me = many years of experience IN the RF business
Me = most always using FACT as my basis for posting
and/or personal experience, backed by testing and observation
You cannot say the same, can you?
99.9% emotion, <.0000001% fact, 100% BS...
Gee, I wonder whom is "anal" and "piss ant"
One whom is calm, or one who is profane beyond reason?
"Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
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>O god...another piss ant XXXX face here. I was just getting used to Richard
>and Quick with their all typical anal comments and you sound just like
>them! A little prancy type anal fag. It's ok....people like you are all
>over the newsgroups and usually don't have their opinion or couldn't keep
>their own because they have to follow and just agree with the popular. As I
>get my fly swatter out to get rid of you...
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| Richard Ness 2005-08-22, 11:48 pm |
| Just have to be intelligent MIkey.
Yes VZW plays Bluetooth games.
I don't deny that they do.
But MY e815 does everything Bluetooth
Just took a little effort on my part.
Good phone - now a MUCH better one.
"Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
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>I can't decide who I dislike more....you are Richard Ness. I really thought
>I had some love for you guys since we go way back....but your typical all
>general popular vote comments are so lame and shallow my dog could have
>written a better response. Gimme a XXXXing good quality Bluetooth phone
>with no features disabled. Then I may just stop bitching.
>
> I know you guys love me...if you didn't, you'd block me out already.
>
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| Steve Sobol 2005-08-23, 2:48 am |
| Richard Ness wrote:
> Good phone - now a MUCH better one.
Good phone? It's still a Motorola handset. I don't like the v188 I decided
to get from T-Mo because it was free. My mother-in-law doesn't even like her
fancy-shmancy RAZR all that much.
I'm eligible for a phone discount 11 months into my 12-month contract, so
next summer I plan on getting a better phone.
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek 888-480-4638 PGP: 0xE3AE35ED
Company website: http://JustThe.net/
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E: sjsobol@JustThe.net Snail: 22674 Motnocab Road, Apple Valley, CA 92307
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| I do like Rich and Quick the best though....we go way back....all the way
back to nam. Morphine!!!
"Richard Ness" <richard.no@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
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> Me = engineer (EE)
> Me = many years of experience IN the RF business
> Me = most always using FACT as my basis for posting
> and/or personal experience, backed by testing and observation
>
> You cannot say the same, can you?
> 99.9% emotion, <.0000001% fact, 100% BS...
>
> Gee, I wonder whom is "anal" and "piss ant"
> One whom is calm, or one who is profane beyond reason?
>
>
> "Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
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| Richard, from that post it seems your just all about yourself and just like
a dog licks your own XXX. You may as well send out your resume or other
credentials so you can prove to everyone how smart and technical you are.
Always trying to prove yourself, and I was just starting to like you.
"Richard Ness" <richard.no@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
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> Me = engineer (EE)
> Me = many years of experience IN the RF business
> Me = most always using FACT as my basis for posting
> and/or personal experience, backed by testing and observation
>
> You cannot say the same, can you?
> 99.9% emotion, <.0000001% fact, 100% BS...
>
> Gee, I wonder whom is "anal" and "piss ant"
> One whom is calm, or one who is profane beyond reason?
>
>
> "Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
> news:11ginug7lmol118
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| Having done a little effort on your part has done what to the phone? You
didn't gain any extra functions, only functions that are suppose to be there
to begin with, right?
"Richard Ness" <richard.no@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
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> Just have to be intelligent MIkey.
> Yes VZW plays Bluetooth games.
> I don't deny that they do.
>
> But MY e815 does everything Bluetooth
> Just took a little effort on my part.
>
> Good phone - now a MUCH better one.
>
>
> "Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
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| Richard Ness 2005-08-27, 5:48 am |
| Whatever - I have a phone that does what I want.
The rest is semantics.
For the record, I do think that it is horse shit that
VZW plays the games they do. I'm just glad the features
were still there to enable - unlike the 710, which was
'lobotomized'.
..
"Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
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> Having done a little effort on your part has done what to the phone? You
> didn't gain any extra functions, only functions that are suppose to be
> there to begin with, right?
>
>
> "Richard Ness" <richard.no@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
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| Richard Ness 2005-08-27, 5:48 am |
| Not trying to prove a thing. No need.
Rattle your cage, yes.
Mission accomplished, I see.
"Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
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> Richard, from that post it seems your just all about yourself and just
> like a dog licks your own XXX. You may as well send out your resume or
> other credentials so you can prove to everyone how smart and technical you
> are. Always trying to prove yourself, and I was just starting to like you.
>
>
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> "Richard Ness" <richard.no@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
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| But for the poor guy who heard about bluetooth from his friend and decides
to go pick one up from Verizon will then realize all the nice functions his
friend was talking about he can't do not because the phone can't do it, but
because the provider decides not to give customer's the full capability of
the phone. Things like that just piss me off...and it's usually the big
corporate greedy fat mouth screwing the little guy.
"Richard Ness" <richard.no@damnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in message
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> Whatever - I have a phone that does what I want.
> The rest is semantics.
>
> For the record, I do think that it is horse shit that
> VZW plays the games they do. I'm just glad the features
> were still there to enable - unlike the 710, which was
> 'lobotomized'.
>
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> "Xman" <cdripper@rip,net> wrote in message
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