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Fake and Anonymous SMS/Text message craze ;-(
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| davemorris6592@yahoo.co.uk 2006-01-16, 5:48 pm |
| Has anyone seen this site [link] it allows you to send an sms message
to ANYBODY'S phone (worldwide). It also allows you to specify who the
message is FROM !!!
Is that for real?
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-16, 5:48 pm |
| On 16 Jan 2006 12:14:19 -0800, davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
>Has anyone seen this site [link] it allows you to send an sms message
>to ANYBODY'S phone (worldwide). It also allows you to specify who the
>message is FROM !!!
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>Is that for real?
Without knowing what site you are referring to, it's kind of hard to
determine.
But, technically, yes, it would be possible.
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-16, 5:48 pm |
| On 16 Jan 2006 12:15:36 -0800, davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
>its at http://www.revengetext.com (sorry bout that).
So you have to sign up for an account, which means they have a record
of who the true sender is? When you send an unsolicited SMS and piss
somebody off because they have to pay $$ for your stupid prank, don't
be surprised when the cops (or a process server) comes knocking on
your door.
This is obviously a site created by someone with far too much time on
their hands.
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| davemorris6592@yahoo.co.uk 2006-01-16, 5:48 pm |
| Sorry i sound like a dick, but what is a process server?
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| davemorris6592@yahoo.co.uk 2006-01-16, 5:48 pm |
| And couldn't the user just use false details to get round this??
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| davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
> Sorry i sound like a dick, but what is a process server?
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A person who serves civil court notices (summons to appear as a witness,
notice that you are the subject of a civil suit, divorce papers) in the
U.S.
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| Pegleg 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:37:22 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> wrote:
>So you have to sign up for an account, which means they have a record
>of who the true sender is? When you send an unsolicited SMS and piss
>somebody off because they have to pay $$ for your stupid prank, don't
>be surprised when the cops (or a process server) comes knocking on
>your door.
Do you honest think someone will convince the police to pursue an
individual because they were charged 10 cents for an SMS message?
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Pegleg
U.S. Navy Retired
Support Our Troops,
Question The Policy!
All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words:
freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| Bruce E. Stemplewski 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2006 12:15:36 -0800, davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
>
> So you have to sign up for an account, which means they have a record
> of who the true sender is? When you send an unsolicited SMS and piss
> somebody off because they have to pay $$ for your stupid prank, don't
> be surprised when the cops (or a process server) comes knocking on
> your door.
>
> This is obviously a site created by someone with far too much time on
> their hands.
>
What's worse is now they have the recipients phone number. It's not so
bad if it is you enemy but if you are just playing a joke on a friend,
the "joke" may never end till your friend dumps his phone number.
--
Bruce E. Stemplewski
GarXface OCX and C++ Class Library for the Garmin GPS
www.stempsoft.com
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| Pegleg 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| On 16 Jan 2006 12:15:36 -0800, davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
>its at http://www.revengetext.com (sorry bout that).
By registering the site has your information...my concern would be the
resulting spam/junk mail/etc. that you would be subject to.
No one is going to pursue legal action over receiving a 10 cent SMS
message.
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Pegleg
U.S. Navy Retired
Support Our Troops,
Question The Policy!
All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words:
freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| On 16 Jan 2006 12:45:17 -0800, davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
>And couldn't the user just use false details to get round this??
IP logging.
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| On 16 Jan 2006 12:44:24 -0800, davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
>Sorry i sound like a dick, but what is a process server?
A process server is the person who knocks on your door to serve you
with a civil complaint, or IOW, a lawsuit.
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:40:51 -0800, Pegleg
<brian-s-jones@comcastnospam.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:37:22 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
><ghost@general.lee> wrote:
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>Do you honest think someone will convince the police to pursue an
>individual because they were charged 10 cents for an SMS message?
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If it is done as an act of harassment, yes. The costs incurred,
however small, could give rise to civil action, which could lead to
punitive damages, also.
There is absolutely no good that can come from such a site.
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:41:18 GMT, "Bruce E. Stemplewski"
<Bruce. Stemplewski@removeno
spamstempsoft.com> wrote:
>The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
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>What's worse is now they have the recipients phone number. It's not so
>bad if it is you enemy but if you are just playing a joke on a friend,
>the "joke" may never end till your friend dumps his phone number.
Any "friend" who would play such a "joke" on me wouldn't be my friend
much longer.
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| Pegleg 2006-01-16, 11:48 pm |
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:49:57 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> wrote:
>If it is done as an act of harassment, yes. The costs incurred,
>however small, could give rise to civil action, which could lead to
>punitive damages, also.
You must be a "wanna-be lawyer"!
No wonder the south lost the war!
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Pegleg
U.S. Navy Retired
Support Our Troops,
Question The Policy!
All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words:
freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-17, 2:48 am |
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:01:12 -0800, Pegleg
<brian-s-jones@comcastnospam.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:49:57 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
><ghost@general.lee> wrote:
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>You must be a "wanna-be lawyer"!
>No wonder the south lost the war!
Is this all you can come up with when presented with the truth?
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| Pegleg 2006-01-17, 2:48 am |
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:53:52 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
<ghost@general.lee> wrote:
>Is this all you can come up with when presented with the truth?
I still say no one will get law enforcement interests in pursuing a ten
cent message. You must live in some kind of paranoid fantasy world!
_
Pegleg
U.S. Navy Retired
Support Our Troops,
Question The Policy!
All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words:
freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope.
Sir Winston Churchill
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-17, 11:48 pm |
| On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:09:46 -0800, Pegleg
<brian-s-jones@comcastnospam.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:53:52 -0500, The Ghost of General Lee
><ghost@general.lee> wrote:
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>I still say no one will get law enforcement interests in pursuing a ten
>cent message. You must live in some kind of paranoid fantasy world!
>
Nope, the real one, with laws against harassment. I could cite you
some statutes, but obviously the effort would be wasted on you.
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| Me thisBox 2006-01-18, 5:48 pm |
| Anonymizer
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2006 12:45:17 -0800, davemorris6592@yahoo
.co.uk wrote:
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> IP logging.
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| Me thisBox 2006-01-18, 5:48 pm |
| This is the story of the Internet - must be a newbie
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:09:46 -0800, Pegleg
> <brian-s-jones@comcastnospam.net> wrote:
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> Nope, the real one, with laws against harassment. I could cite you
> some statutes, but obviously the effort would be wasted on you.
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| The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:09:46 -0800, Pegleg
> <brian-s-jones@comcastnospam.net> wrote:
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> Nope, the real one, with laws against harassment. I
> could cite you some statutes, but obviously the effort
> would be wasted on you.
You need to spell it out. You would not be pressing charges
for the $0.10/monetary damages. You would be pressing
charges for harassment.
Here is an extreme example: You receive an SMS that says
"I'm going to kill you. Die net kook, die." You would press
charges for the death threat or harassment. Not because
your phone bill went up by ten cents.
-Quick
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| Justin 2006-01-18, 5:48 pm |
| The Ghost of General Lee wrote on [Mon, 16 Jan 2006 18:51:05 - 0500]:
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:41:18 GMT, "Bruce E. Stemplewski"
> <Bruce. Stemplewski@removeno
spamstempsoft.com> wrote:
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> Any "friend" who would play such a "joke" on me wouldn't be my friend
> much longer.
You have friends?
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-01-18, 5:48 pm |
| On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:35:08 GMT, "Quick"
<quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
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>You need to spell it out. You would not be pressing charges
>for the $0.10/monetary damages. You would be pressing
>charges for harassment.
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>Here is an extreme example: You receive an SMS that says
>"I'm going to kill you. Die net kook, die." You would press
>charges for the death threat or harassment. Not because
>your phone bill went up by ten cents.
The whole concept of the site in question is to send unsolicited text
messages and make it look as though they came from someone else. If
you can find a legitimate use for such a service, I'd be happy to hear
about it. But it smacks of harassment of the targeted individual.
Given a financial loss due to the crime, that gives rise to a civil
cause of action, which can result in actual and punitive damages.
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