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| Andromedan 2006-10-19, 10:33 am |
| Since getting my PC Card VZW BroadbandAccess account nearly two years ago,
this is the highest speed I have got on it just a few minutes ago! - 1143
kbps. The average normal has consistently been around 600 kpbs or so,
though.
1024x768 image:
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/16...887_1687798.jpg
800x600 image:
http://show.imagehosting.us/show/16...887_1687805.jpg
This is in Los Angeles.
How does it compare with rates experienced by others, I would like to know.
I use the older PC 5220 AirPrime card on a Windows XP Pro SP 2 machine.
Regards and thanks.
Live long and prosper. Damn the Vulcans for stealing our line.
Andromedan
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| Frankster 2006-10-19, 10:33 am |
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"Andromedan" <andromedan@galaxy.universe> wrote in message
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> Since getting my PC Card VZW BroadbandAccess account nearly two years ago,
> this is the highest speed I have got on it just a few minutes ago! - 1143
> kbps. The average normal has consistently been around 600 kpbs or so,
> though.
>
> 1024x768 image:
> http://show.imagehosting.us/show/16...887_1687798.jpg
>
> 800x600 image:
> http://show.imagehosting.us/show/16...887_1687805.jpg
>
> This is in Los Angeles.
>
> How does it compare with rates experienced by others, I would like to
> know.
> I use the older PC 5220 AirPrime card on a Windows XP Pro SP 2 machine.
Denver is faster. Move.
-Frank
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| Andromedan 2006-10-19, 10:33 am |
| "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
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> "Andromedan" <andromedan@galaxy.universe> wrote in message
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> Denver is faster. Move.
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> -Frank
I actually might! By how much, BTW?
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| "Andromedan" <andromedan@galaxy.universe> wrote in
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> Since getting my PC Card VZW BroadbandAccess account nearly two years
> ago, this is the highest speed I have got on it just a few minutes
> ago! - 1143 kbps. The average normal has consistently been around 600
> kpbs or so, though.
>
>
Whoa! Slow down! It's a LONG month! You'll use up your "unlimited"
5GB/month way before Halloween and get dumped for using too much bandwidth!
Downloading speed means nothing as long as they won't let you use it.....
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| Nessnet 2006-10-19, 10:33 pm |
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9861977D9D4n
oonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>
> Whoa! Slow down! It's a LONG month! You'll use up your "unlimited"
> 5GB/month way before Halloween and get dumped for using too much bandwidth!
>
> Downloading speed means nothing as long as they won't let you use it.....
>
>
As usual - DEAD wrong! Download speeds mean EVERYTHING when you are dealing with
VPN overhead, actually using the connection for WORK and even simple things like real time
traffic maps or getting a spreadsheet to the office quickly because someone is waiting for it.
When Sitting in a customer's office and entering orders into the system - speed is certainly desirable.
So, I am calling you on your BS - again.
You always like to bring up the crap that only fits into your very narrow - and warped version of
reality. And always it's negative - I have yet to see anything POSITIVE from you.
I use a VZW card each and every day - and it certainly is a MUCH better user experience the
faster it is. Speed has very little to do with volume - if you are using it normally. Not downloading
porn or stolen music like you do.
I see it as a simple case of normal - vs abusive use.
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| George 2006-10-19, 10:33 pm |
| Nessnet wrote:
>
> As usual - DEAD wrong! Download speeds mean EVERYTHING when you are dealing with
> VPN overhead, actually using the connection for WORK and even simple things like real time
> traffic maps or getting a spreadsheet to the office quickly because someone is waiting for it.
> When Sitting in a customer's office and entering orders into the system - speed is certainly desirable.
>
> So, I am calling you on your BS - again.
>
> You always like to bring up the crap that only fits into your very narrow - and warped version of
> reality. And always it's negative - I have yet to see anything POSITIVE from you.
He reminds me of someone I used to work with who had a permanent black
cloud over his head (and could and would find fault with *anything*). We
used to say he would probably complain if it was free ice cream day and
he didn't get sprinkles..
>
> I use a VZW card each and every day - and it certainly is a MUCH better user experience the
> faster it is. Speed has very little to do with volume - if you are using it normally. Not downloading
> porn or stolen music like you do.
>
> I see it as a simple case of normal - vs abusive use.
>
>
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| Agent_C 2006-10-19, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:19:50 -0700, "Andromedan"
<andromedan@galaxy.universe> wrote:
>How does it compare with rates experienced by others, I would like to know.
>I use the older PC 5220 AirPrime card on a Windows XP Pro SP 2 machine.
My hi water mark: http://tinyurl.com/ros57
Last month in Midtown Manhattan. (V620)
A_C
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| Agent_C 2006-10-19, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:19:50 -0700, "Andromedan"
<andromedan@galaxy.universe> wrote:
>How does it compare with rates experienced by others, I would like to know.
>I use the older PC 5220 AirPrime card on a Windows XP Pro SP 2 machine.
My high water mark: http://tinyurl.com/ros57
Last month in Midtown Manhattan. (V620)
A_C
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| Andromedan 2006-10-19, 10:33 pm |
| "Agent_C" <Agent-C-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:19:50 -0700, "Andromedan"
> <andromedan@galaxy.universe> wrote:
>
>
> My high water mark: http://tinyurl.com/ros57
>
> Last month in Midtown Manhattan. (V620)
>
> A_C
Thanks for the stats. That's faster than mine here!
Maybe I should have stayed in NYC (I used to live in East Village on 6th)!
:-)
A
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| Agent_C 2006-10-19, 10:33 pm |
| On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:53:00 -0700, "Andromedan"
<andromedan@galaxy.universe> wrote:
> (I used to live in East Village on 6th)!
Is it true they all share the same kitchen???
A_C
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| "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in
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> So, I am calling you on your BS - again.
>
>
Damn, Ness, calm down! Here's what it says:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ion/controller?
promotionType=miniPa
c&action=miniStart
"Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess:
Subject to VZAccess Acceptable Use Policy, available on
www.verizonwireless.com. NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess data sessions
may be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i)
Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including
access to corporate intranets, email and individual productivity
applications like customer relationship management, sales force and field
service automation). Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess services
cannot be used (1) for uploading, downloading or streaming of movies,
music or games, (2) with server devices or with host computer
applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or
broadcasts, automatic data feeds, Voice over IP (VoIP), automated
machine-to-machine connections, or peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing, or
(3) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data
connections. NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess is for individual use only
and is not for resale. We reserve right to limit throughput or amount of
data transferred, deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we
believe is using NationalAccess or BroadbandAccess in any manner
prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service
levels. Verizon Wireless reserves the right to protect its network from
harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We also reserve the right
to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term."
"NationalAccess
NationalAccess is Verizon Wireless' national wireless Internet service,
which enables users to access the Internet, email, attachments, and
business applications with a laptop at average speeds of 60-80 kbps and
bursts up to 144 kbps. You may experience slower data speeds. Choose a
Mobile Office Kit for your NationalAccess data-capable phone. Or choose a
Type II modem card and increase your mobility when using a PDA or
laptop."
Same speed as a 56K modem on a good phone line.....
Here's what the other users think of them:
http://www.evdoforums.com/thread2366-0-asc-165.html
What I don't understand is they use this 101KB data file off an FTP
server to test this speed claim on:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...jsp?capability=
10
when talking about their broadband product speed:
"4Speed claim based on our network test with 101 KB FTP data files,
without compression. Actual throughout speed and coverage may vary. Speed
claim not applicable when roaming."
But up in their customer agreement, they forbid you downloading from FTP
servers in the first place:
"Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess services cannot be used (1) for
uploading, downloading or streaming of movies, music or games, (2) with
server devices or with host computer applications"
I guess if they catch you downloading to test speed from the imaginary
FTP server, you're in violation so you can be dumped:
"We reserve right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, deny
or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is using
NationalAccess or BroadbandAccess in any manner prohibited above or whose
usage adversely impacts our network or service levels."
I searched the website looking for the broadband promo that said 5G/month
was "unlimited access", but it's gone, now.....???
Do I need more references to serve you, sir?
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| Nessnet 2006-10-20, 3:33 pm |
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns986278FE5E4F
noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in
> news:lo6dnZQqZ7Vudqr
YnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@gi
ganews.com:
>
>
> Damn, Ness, calm down! Here's what it says:
>
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...ion/controller?
> promotionType=miniPa
c&action=miniStart
>
> "Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess:
> Subject to VZAccess Acceptable Use Policy, available on
> www.verizonwireless.com. NationalAccess and BroadbandAccess data sessions
> may be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i)
> Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including
> access to corporate intranets, email and individual productivity
> applications like customer relationship management, sales force and field
> service automation). Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess services
> cannot be used (1) for uploading, downloading or streaming of movies,
> music or games, (2) with server devices or with host computer
> applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or
> broadcasts, automatic data feeds, Voice over IP (VoIP), automated
> machine-to-machine connections, or peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing, or
> (3) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data
> connections. NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess is for individual use only
> and is not for resale. We reserve right to limit throughput or amount of
> data transferred, deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we
> believe is using NationalAccess or BroadbandAccess in any manner
> prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service
> levels. Verizon Wireless reserves the right to protect its network from
> harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We also reserve the right
> to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term."
>
> "NationalAccess
>
> NationalAccess is Verizon Wireless' national wireless Internet service,
> which enables users to access the Internet, email, attachments, and
> business applications with a laptop at average speeds of 60-80 kbps and
> bursts up to 144 kbps. You may experience slower data speeds. Choose a
> Mobile Office Kit for your NationalAccess data-capable phone. Or choose a
> Type II modem card and increase your mobility when using a PDA or
> laptop."
>
> Same speed as a 56K modem on a good phone line.....
>
>
>
> Here's what the other users think of them:
> http://www.evdoforums.com/thread2366-0-asc-165.html
>
> What I don't understand is they use this 101KB data file off an FTP
> server to test this speed claim on:
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...jsp?capability=
> 10
> when talking about their broadband product speed:
> "4Speed claim based on our network test with 101 KB FTP data files,
> without compression. Actual throughout speed and coverage may vary. Speed
> claim not applicable when roaming."
>
> But up in their customer agreement, they forbid you downloading from FTP
> servers in the first place:
> "Unlimited NationalAccess/BroadbandAccess services cannot be used (1) for
> uploading, downloading or streaming of movies, music or games, (2) with
> server devices or with host computer applications"
>
> I guess if they catch you downloading to test speed from the imaginary
> FTP server, you're in violation so you can be dumped:
> "We reserve right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, deny
> or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is using
> NationalAccess or BroadbandAccess in any manner prohibited above or whose
> usage adversely impacts our network or service levels."
>
> I searched the website looking for the broadband promo that said 5G/month
> was "unlimited access", but it's gone, now.....???
>
> Do I need more references to serve you, sir?
>
>
Larry,
You are sidestepping. All of the above isn't wasn't what I was commenting about.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9861977D9D4n
oonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
Where you stated: "Downloading speed means nothing as long as they won't let you use it....."
I responded that the above is BS, because it is. Post all the VZW AUP quotes you want. The
bottom line is that speed actually makes a REAL BIG difference to those that use the service regularly,
like I do. Business users who aren't abusing the service by downloading porn and stolen music.
The faster the speed, the easier it is to use for day to day business - that is a proven FACT.
The real bottom line here, despite your sidestepping and obfuscation - is that it really doesn't matter
what you do with the service - just don't abuse it - VZW isn't looking at the traffic - just the volume of traffic.
With my everyday - and rather heavy use, I don't come close to the levels being thrown around.
Don't abuse and you have nothing to worry about. Very simple.
You don't go to the buffet with a garbage bag - or do you?
"But it says all you can eat. It doesn't say where I eat it..."
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| Larry 2006-10-20, 10:33 pm |
| "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in
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ganews.com:
> Where you stated: "Downloading speed means nothing as long as they
> won't let you use it....."
>
>
Oh, that! That's my response to the deceptive advertising ploy called
"unlimited access", giving customers the idea in the BIG PRINT at the sales
counter that they have UNLIMITED DOWNLOADING, like the sales wienies are
telling everyone.....while hiding the FACTS back in the fine print on the
webpage that we can dump you and keep the money if you USE TOO MUCH, in our
humble, corporate opinion.
Downloading speeds DO mean nothing as long as they won't let you USE IT!
Now, go shit on me some more if it makes you feel important or you think
kissing Verizon's XXX is going to do something great for you....
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There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
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| Nessnet 2006-10-20, 10:33 pm |
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9862AEE00E7A
Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in
> news:h9ednY5ySLfBlaT
YnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@gi
ganews.com:
>
>
> Oh, that! That's my response to the deceptive advertising ploy called
> "unlimited access", giving customers the idea in the BIG PRINT at the sales
> counter that they have UNLIMITED DOWNLOADING, like the sales wienies are
> telling everyone.....while hiding the FACTS back in the fine print on the
> webpage that we can dump you and keep the money if you USE TOO MUCH, in our
> humble, corporate opinion.
>
> Downloading speeds DO mean nothing as long as they won't let you USE IT!
>
> Now, go shit on me some more if it makes you feel important or you think
> kissing Verizon's XXX is going to do something great for you....
>
>
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
Larry buddy.... not trying to "shit" on you - per say....
Just correcting what I see is an error - or at least misinformation.
Speed does actually mean a great deal for those that actually use EVDO.
Contrary to all your quotes and jibber jabber proclaiming it doesn't.
For the record, I feel that VZW should be taken to task for yanking folks without CLEARLY
spelling out the rules - "unlimited" to me is exactly that. If they limit it - spell out the limits.
But, as I have stated multiple times now, us who use it for daily business aren't
going to be dumped - it is those that abuse that run the risk.
Have a good weekend - and chill...
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| Larry 2006-10-20, 10:33 pm |
| "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in news:_-
ydneHRY6uS9aTYnZ2dnU
VZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com:
> it is those that abuse that run the risk.
>
I never got used to the idea that continuously downloading from a service
touted as "unlimited" was "abuse". "Abuse", another subjective word like
"unlimited" seems to be means whatever they think it should mean....
Now, in fairness, they DO spell out what you can and cannot do on their
overpriced aircard service. What's NOT right with it is calling it
"unlimited" in the first place, then burying the actual permissions-of-
service back in the fine print that's NOT on the literature out by the
aircard displays. THAT's "abuse" in my book.
If they don't want to sell internet service to individuals, then they
shouldn't OFFER internet service to individuals....just businesses.
--
There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
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| Nessnet 2006-10-20, 10:33 pm |
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9862D9FBAB19
2noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in news:_-
> ydneHRY6uS9aTYnZ2dnU
VZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>
> I never got used to the idea that continuously downloading from a service
> touted as "unlimited" was "abuse". "Abuse", another subjective word like
> "unlimited" seems to be means whatever they think it should mean....
>
> Now, in fairness, they DO spell out what you can and cannot do on their
> overpriced aircard service. What's NOT right with it is calling it
> "unlimited" in the first place, then burying the actual permissions-of-
> service back in the fine print that's NOT on the literature out by the
> aircard displays. THAT's "abuse" in my book.
>
> If they don't want to sell internet service to individuals, then they
> shouldn't OFFER internet service to individuals....just businesses.
>
>
>
> --
> There's amazing intelligence in the Universe.
> You can tell because none of them ever called Earth.
..
I guess it is all a matter of degrees...
I don't try to gorge myself, just because it is all you can eat.
I could, but I don't - it called common sense - self control.
I also don't (currently anyway) try to max out a connection 24/7, just
because I can - either.
There is this pervasive sense of entitlement that permeates society.
Comcast gives me 8Mbps, so I'll go nuts and hit it as hard as I can
for as long as I can. Exactly the same deal as we are discussing.
And (sorry 'bout the shot), how many times have I seen you do the
2gig rant about that?
It really boils down to common sense. Just because you can, (or think you
should be able to) pin a connection up 24/7 - doesn't mean you should.
Example: There is a public water well in the town square - there for all to use.
People come and dip their buckets and fill their water jugs - plenty for all.
It doesn't mean you should back a tanker truck up to it and pump away.
Use vs abuse...
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| Kevin Weaver 2006-10-21, 4:33 am |
| Larry wrote:
> "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in
> news:h9ednY5ySLfBlaT
YnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@gi
ganews.com:
>
>
> Oh, that! That's my response to the deceptive advertising ploy called
> "unlimited access", giving customers the idea in the BIG PRINT at the sales
> counter that they have UNLIMITED DOWNLOADING, like the sales wienies are
> telling everyone.....while hiding the FACTS back in the fine print on the
> webpage that we can dump you and keep the money if you USE TOO MUCH, in our
> humble, corporate opinion.
>
> Downloading speeds DO mean nothing as long as they won't let you USE IT!
>
> Now, go shit on me some more if it makes you feel important or you think
> kissing Verizon's XXX is going to do something great for you....
>
>
>
When are people going to wake up and smell the verizon shit ? Life is
much better at cingular. :)
Funny thing is, I've been gone two months and I pop in and it's still
the same shit talked about 2 months ago.
Unlimited is Limited. Hahahahaha
C-ya in a few months. I'm sure your still going to be hashing this
subject into the new year.
Rock-on Larry.
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| Steven J. Sobol 2006-10-22, 4:33 am |
| In article < Xns9862D9FBAB192noon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:
> "Nessnet" <richard@nodamnspam.nessnet.com> wrote in news:_-
> ydneHRY6uS9aTYnZ2dnU
VZ_q2dnZ2d@giganews.com:
>
>
> I never got used to the idea that continuously downloading from a service
> touted as "unlimited" was "abuse". "Abuse", another subjective word like
> "unlimited" seems to be means whatever they think it should mean....
The word unlimited has been misused by many service providers in many
different industries for years. Back about twelve years ago, I worked,
informally, with a guy who ran Cleveland's first commercial ISP; a local
competitor popped up who loved to claim "unlimited"... but didn't really
mean it. Caught a lot of crap over his use of the words -- and rightfully
so, IMHO.
I prefer "Flat-rate" to "Unlimited."
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
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| "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnejlptc.h18.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:
> I prefer "Flat-rate" to "Unlimited."
>
"Flat Rate" would be fine....as long as the ADVERTISING says what the
flat rate is for, not just leave it dangling for the imagination.
I have "flat rate" internet service from a cable company, too. I pay
$60/month for 7Mbps of continuous bandwidth noone ever tells me I cannot
use, which is really "unlimited" in the right way. But, alas, it is a
flat rate pay system as it never varies whether I use 10MB/month or
10TB/month....at a flat rate.
I wouldn't have an issue if the SALES LITERATURE had the truth printed on
it, not just "Unlimited Access" with no definition, except what is
carefully buried on an obscure webpage and NOT available from Verizon's
main sales floor in North Charleston, SC. They could not, or probably
more correctly would not, provide me with a terms of service disclosure,
saying they couldn't find one.....another out and out lie, of course.
It IS printed in very light, fine print on the back of the agreement for
service, however....(c;
Sign here....
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| Steven J. Sobol 2006-10-22, 4:33 am |
| In article < Xns98641CB0E126noone
homecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:
>
> "Flat Rate" would be fine....as long as the ADVERTISING says what the
> flat rate is for, not just leave it dangling for the imagination.
Yup. Leaving details out isn't acceptable.
> I wouldn't have an issue if the SALES LITERATURE had the truth printed on
> it
Agree 100%.
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
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