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| Jerry 2006-02-12, 11:48 pm |
| I'm thinking about upgrading to an E815 and wonder how the 15-day
cancellation/refund policy applies to NE2. If I decide to return the
new phone would I revert back to month-to-month at current terms?
Would I retain AC1 coverage and MOU and free nights and weekends and
any other "promotional" features of my current plan?
--jerry
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| Dave Rudisill 2006-02-13, 5:48 pm |
| >Jerry <jerrysch@pacbell.net> wrote:
>I'm thinking about upgrading to an E815 and wonder how the 15-day
>cancellation/refund policy applies to NE2. If I decide to return the
>new phone would I revert back to month-to-month at current terms?
>Would I retain AC1 coverage and MOU and free nights and weekends and
>any other "promotional" features of my current plan?
>
>--jerry
NE2 is simply a $100 credit toward a new phone in return for signing a
new two year contract.
I returned the first phone I got with a NE2 credit a few months ago. I
reverted to my month-to-month plan, with no changes.
BTW, when I finally selected and kept another new phone with the NE2
credit, I was not required to switch from AC1 to AC2.
--
Dave
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| It Is Not ME Here 2006-02-14, 2:48 am |
| What is AC1 and AC2?
Does this have to do with using phone on NON Verizon systems? Inlcuding
Analog systems (yes there are a lot of them in our rural area.)
I am on a western states plan that has absolutely NO roaming anywhere (even
when off of Verizons own system, i.e. Cellular One, etc.)
How does one know that the settings on our Phones? We upgraded from
LGVX4400 to LGVX6100 phones.
"Dave Rudisill" <denali@alaska.net> wrote in message
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> NE2 is simply a $100 credit toward a new phone in return for signing a
> new two year contract.
>
> I returned the first phone I got with a NE2 credit a few months ago. I
> reverted to my month-to-month plan, with no changes.
>
> BTW, when I finally selected and kept another new phone with the NE2
> credit, I was not required to switch from AC1 to AC2.
>
> --
> Dave
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| Isaiah Beard 2006-02-14, 5:48 pm |
| It Is Not ME Here wrote:
> What is AC1 and AC2?
>
> Does this have to do with using phone on NON Verizon systems? Inlcuding
> Analog systems (yes there are a lot of them in our rural area.)
Yes it does.
AC1 was the original America's Choice Plan. On it, you of course had
your home network and "Extended Network," or preferred roaming partners
Verizon struck a deal with that allow you to use their networks and be
billed just as if you weren't actually roaming. If, however, you're not
on an "Extended Network," then you could roam, at higher rates.
AC2 is the "current" America's Choice plan. With AC2, the "Extended
Network" coverage area has increased overall and some places where you
would be roaming with AC1 are now "extended" under AC2 (though I think
some small areas were also taken away). BUT, the trade-off is that the
ability to roam on non-extended networks is removed. It's often
referred to "America's Choice II - No Roaming."
All new customers, and customers who want to change to current rate
plans will get AC2, and AC1 is pretty much a grandfathered plan for
those still on it.
> I am on a western states plan that has absolutely NO roaming anywhere (even
> when off of Verizons own system, i.e. Cellular One, etc.)
That's SingleRate West I beleive. If you're on this rate plan, then AC1
or 2 really isn't a concern, unless you ever decide to switch plans. In
that case, you will probably want to check the AC2 coverage map to make
sure you're covered.
> How does one know that the settings on our Phones? We upgraded from
> LGVX4400 to LGVX6100 phones.
I'm not sure I understand what you're asking...
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| Dave Rudisill 2006-02-14, 5:48 pm |
| >Isaiah Beard < sacredpoet@sacredpoe
t.com> wrote:
>AC2 is the "current" America's Choice plan. With AC2, the "Extended
>Network" coverage area has increased overall and some places where you
>would be roaming with AC1 are now "extended" under AC2 (though I think
>some small areas were also taken away). BUT, the trade-off is that the
>ability to roam on non-extended networks is removed. It's often
>referred to "America's Choice II - No Roaming."
Great explanation, but note that 911 calls will still work in "roaming"
areas under AC2. You won't be able to call a tow truck, though.<g>
--
DD
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2006-02-14, 5:48 pm |
| On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 10:46:39 -0700, Dave Rudisill <denali@alaska.net>
wrote:
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>Great explanation, but note that 911 calls will still work in "roaming"
>areas under AC2. You won't be able to call a tow truck, though.<g>
Not necessarily. In a lot of localities, you can call 911, tell them
you are a stranded motorist with no other cell coverage, and ask them
to send one off their rotation list. Or they may be willing to call
one of your choice. In today's times, I think that's considered
"emergency" enough, especially if you're stranded in the roadway.
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| It Is Not ME Here 2006-02-15, 2:48 am |
| Thank you and yes I am on Single Rate West 500 plan. And they will have to
pry it out of my cold dead fingers as it is no longer available and serves
my needs perfectly. I can "roam" into ANY area, switch from a "B" mode to
the "A" mode and all of a sudden I get Analog (or digital) on a competitor's
system (i.e. Cellular One, etc.). I have NEVER been charged ANY roaming
charges EVER. I was concerned our NEW phones MAY be switched so that they
won't see the competitor's towers and thus I can't "roam" when Verizon's
coverage is spotty or non-existent. I should call Verizon and make sure I am
on AC1 from the way you best described it. I live in a rural area and those
"smaller" areas are of great concern to me.
"Isaiah Beard" < sacredpoet@sacredpoe
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> It Is Not ME Here wrote:
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> Yes it does.
>
> AC1 was the original America's Choice Plan. On it, you of course had your
> home network and "Extended Network," or preferred roaming partners Verizon
> struck a deal with that allow you to use their networks and be billed just
> as if you weren't actually roaming. If, however, you're not on an
> "Extended Network," then you could roam, at higher rates.
>
> AC2 is the "current" America's Choice plan. With AC2, the "Extended
> Network" coverage area has increased overall and some places where you
> would be roaming with AC1 are now "extended" under AC2 (though I think
> some small areas were also taken away). BUT, the trade-off is that the
> ability to roam on non-extended networks is removed. It's often referred
> to "America's Choice II - No Roaming."
>
> All new customers, and customers who want to change to current rate plans
> will get AC2, and AC1 is pretty much a grandfathered plan for those still
> on it.
>
>
> That's SingleRate West I beleive. If you're on this rate plan, then AC1
> or 2 really isn't a concern, unless you ever decide to switch plans. In
> that case, you will probably want to check the AC2 coverage map to make
> sure you're covered.
>
>
> I'm not sure I understand what you're asking...
>
>
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| Isaiah Beard 2006-02-15, 5:48 pm |
| It Is Not ME Here wrote:
> Thank you and yes I am on Single Rate West 500 plan. And they will have to
> pry it out of my cold dead fingers as it is no longer available and serves
> my needs perfectly. I can "roam" into ANY area, switch from a "B" mode to
> the "A" mode and all of a sudden I get Analog (or digital) on a competitor's
> system (i.e. Cellular One, etc.). I have NEVER been charged ANY roaming
> charges EVER. I was concerned our NEW phones MAY be switched so that they
> won't see the competitor's towers and thus I can't "roam" when Verizon's
> coverage is spotty or non-existent. I should call Verizon and make sure I am
> on AC1 from the way you best described it.
No actually, you WON'T be on AC1 because you're not on an America's
Choice Plan. SingleRate customers should be on a totally different PRL
from any of the AC customers to reflect that they can roam just about
anywhere.
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| Isaiah Beard wrote:
> It Is Not ME Here wrote:
>
> No actually, you WON'T be on AC1 because you're not on an
> America's Choice Plan. SingleRate customers should be on
> a totally different PRL from any of the AC customers to
> reflect that they can roam just about anywhere.
I'm not sure that's true anymore. Some time ago I got the
impression that they gave up on having a separate SingleRate
PRL. Pretty much I thought you just get the AC1 PRL and
ignore your roaming indicator. Maybe not...
-Quick
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| Larry 2006-02-15, 11:48 pm |
| "It Is Not ME Here" <it_is_not_me@atthis.email> wrote in news:d7zIf.113
$HT1.84@fe02.lga:
> I was concerned our NEW phones MAY be switched so that they
> won't see the competitor's towers and thus I can't "roam" when Verizon's
> coverage is spotty or non-existent.
You can bet your XXX on that.....and the cost increase, too...
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| Larry wrote:
> "It Is Not ME Here" <it_is_not_me@atthis.email> wrote in
> news:d7zIf.113 $HT1.84@fe02.lga:
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>
> You can bet your XXX on that.....and the cost increase,
> too...
Care to explain? I'd say you're just talking out of your's.
The phone you use (existing or new) has nothing to do
with the towers you can "see". That is all controlled by
the PRL which is directly associated with the plan you
are on. If they don't change plans nothing will change
with respect to reception (unless they get an all digital
phone when they had a tri mode phone previously AND
were using analog in places).
-Quick
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| "Quick" <quick7135-news@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote in news:GoTIf.57126
$PL5.15495@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:
> Care to explain? I'd say you're just talking out of your's.
> The phone you use (existing or new) has nothing to do
> with the towers you can "see". That is all controlled by
> the PRL which is directly associated with the plan you
> are on. If they don't change plans nothing will change
> with respect to reception (unless they get an all digital
> phone when they had a tri mode phone previously AND
> were using analog in places).
>
> -Quick
>
>
God, It's 1AM on the East Coast. Doesn't your shift ever end, or is Quick
the pseudoname for everyone on all the shifts at the center?
EVERY time there has been a PRL change since VZW/GTE bought Cellular One,
where I live, there has been a denial-of-service penalty of lost in-market
roaming....every time. First it just shrunk in small areas, then it shrunk
whole areas, then it was totally taken away, then Sprint and Alltel (the
other CDMA carriers, here) refused to roam ANY calls from VZW, at all, in
the DEAD zones the old PRLs would let you roam in. EVERY TIME....
NO VZW phone will roam ANYWHERE in SC off the system....NONE, now. All
forbidden, specifically....
My best point is our local WallyWorld, in a major shopping area called
Oakbrook in Summerville, SC. The VZW tower is behind the fire station way
downtown. Alltel is less than a mile away. Sprint, you can see their
little wood tower from the Wally World parking lot. 8' inside Wally World,
all the VZW phone roam to NO SERVICE. I loaned a lady with a brand new VZW
phone, some fancy colored screen thingy with camera and internet she
mortgaged her life for, my Alltel V60i to call her hubby. I asked her if I
could try to call 911 on her dead VZW phone. Should connect to one of our
other towers, right? NADA. NO SERVICE tones...even on 911.
Why? VZW PRL has Alltel/Sprint in the NEGATIVE section of the PRL. Don't
know why the fancy phone didn't roam for the 911 call but IT DIDN'T.
Probably some wonderous VZW programming like Bluetooth, denial of MP3 play,
other shitty tricks the company screws the customers out of.
Tell your bosses....Maybe they'll buy some tower space near 32-57-00N 80-
09-19W (That's Wally World on Google Earth). The signal SUCKS!
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| Isaiah Beard 2006-02-16, 5:48 pm |
| Larry wrote:
> God, It's 1AM on the East Coast. Doesn't your shift ever end, or is Quick
> the pseudoname for everyone on all the shifts at the center?
1:10 am is when you REPLIED to his message, not when he posted it.
Guess you can't tell the difference on that either, huh Larry?
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