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| Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not sure
it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as long as
the reception is great. Thanks to all
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| On Mar 9, 5:16 pm, "Tommy" <n...@bestweb.net> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
> Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not sure
> it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as long as
> the reception is great. Thanks to all
LG VX5300 has analog. 325i has better reception but the LG is pretty
close behind.
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| Diamond Dave 2007-03-10, 7:33 am |
| On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:16:37 -0500, "Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
>Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not sure
>it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as long as
>the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
I think the Motorola W315 is also a tri-mode phone. It does not have a
camera.
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| "Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote in
news:12v41nltm7jh3a0
@corp.supernews.com:
> Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog
> also. Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has
> but not sure it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not
> as good as long as the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
>
>
http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=
6842e59e1572d010VgnV
CM1000008206b00aRCRD
&show=productHome
Welcome to the FINEST new CELLULAR PHONE produced for CDMA/AMPS triband in
many years! The Motorola M800 and M800 Bagphones.....
Installed in the bag or in the car, it runs 3 WATTS on 800, 2 WATTS on 1900
Mhz...instead of the mambypamby crap toyphones .15 watts, which goes
nowhere in the country.
This phone IS CDMA and GSM available and IS FCC-approved GPS-enabled for
all systems. It is NEW....BRAND NEW!
Need your pocket phone, too? No problemo! The M800 is a pocket phone that
plugs into car or bagphone's powerful antenna/amp system. In your pocket,
it's also a bigger-powered pocket phone....not some glitzy PoS with a
camera and TV and mp3 player for the teenage girls. This is a MANLY phone,
designed for MANLY use...fire, rescue, business, farmers riding around
plowing fields calling their stock brokers in a tractor, government
bureaucrats intent on blowing up more Americans...toys for the BIG BOYS!
500 entry phonebook with 20 entry speech recognition dialing. 5 line
conference calling. Email, FAXes and File transfers using Motorola Phone
Tools. BLUETOOTH on an AMPS phone?! Yep...if Verizon doesn't disable
everything. SMS, too...on an AMPS phone?? A-GPS enabled so the cops can
trace your drug calls. Auxiliary Alert (not sure what that is, yet.)
Internal and EXTERNAL antennas for better reception, just like the old days
on my V60i. Runs off Cig lighter 12V, AC wall brick at FULL LEGAL POWER or
off it's internal Li-Ion in your pocket on lower power.
Being an AMPS-enabled phone, it uses more power. 10 hours standby, you'll
charge it every night. 240 minutes talktime in handset mode. At full
power, it draws 400ma (in the bag I think) to run a REAL transmitter they
can't ignore...(c;
The bag weighs, ready for war, 10 pounds. Toyphone users at the bar will
FLEE in fear of its RF POWER as you slam it down next to your MANLY BEER.
Oh, oh.....sorry.....big trouble......It's only available to serious
cellular users on:
Alaska Communication Systems (ACS)
600 Telephone Ave.
Anchorage, AK 99503-001
Toll-Free #: 866-550-4999
Phone #: 907-550-4911
Website: www.acsalaska.com
Alltel
1-866-alltel7 ( 1-866-255-8357 )
Sales representatives are available:
9:00 a.m. - 7:00 p.m., Monday - Friday
9:00 a.m. - 5:00 p.m., Saturday
CellStar
Attn: Lisa McAlexander
Phone # 972-462-2871
Email - lmcalexander@cellsta
r.com
Fax # 888-212-7494
601 S. Royal Lane
Coppell, TX 75019
Retail Sales:
Hawk Express
Janice Grice - Sales
Tel: 877-677-0567
Email : janiceg@pcicorp.com
Online order website: www.hawkexpress.com
Mohave Wireless
3707 Stockton Hill Road
Kingman, AZ 86401
Phone #: 928-716-CELL
Website: www.mohavewireless.com
Nex-Tech Wireless
3001 New Way
Hays, KS 67601
Phone #: 877-621-2600
Corporate Sales: customerservice@nex-techwireless.com
Website: www.nex-techwireless.com
UBET Wireless
211 East 200 North
Roosevelt, UT 84066
Phone #: 435-622-5007
Corporate Sales: Sales@ubta-ubet.com
Website: www.ubta-ubet.com
Unicel
PH: 800.GOCELLULAR (462-3558)
Website: www.unicel.com
Sorry....VZW girly phones not included....(c;
1-800-ALLTEL7 is where I ordered MY MANLY MONSTERPHONE.
Larry
--
If AMPS is dead....Why is Motorola producing a NEW AMPS PHONE for
government, industry, oil/gas, emergency services customers??
More Verizon bullshit??
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| What for? Analog will be gone soon so who cares? FWIW the mot offerings will
most likely have the best tri-mode but frankly after next year it won't
matter.
"Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote in message
news:12v41nltm7jh3a0
@corp.supernews.com...
> Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
> Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not
> sure it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as
> long as the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
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| The Other Funk 2007-03-10, 7:33 am |
| Finding the keyboard operational
Larry entered:
> "Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote in
> news:12v41nltm7jh3a0
@corp.supernews.com:
>
>
> http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=
> 6842e59e1572d010VgnV
CM1000008206b00aRCRD
&show=productHome
>
> Welcome to the FINEST new CELLULAR PHONE produced for CDMA/AMPS
> triband in many years! The Motorola M800 and M800 Bagphones.....
>
> Installed in the bag or in the car, it runs 3 WATTS on 800, 2 WATTS
> on 1900 Mhz...instead of the mambypamby crap toyphones .15 watts,
> which goes nowhere in the country.
> Larry
1900 Mhz analog is offered in very, very small areas and nowhere in th
continental US, as far as I know. Plus once you go to digital, you are back
to 150 mW.
Also, once you have started a call, the base station is controling the power
output of the phone.
Bob
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Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
www.moondoggiecoffee.com
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| Easy pick. v325i.
LG 8300 is a fantastic phone, but no analog.
Just curious, are you in a very rural area?
"Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote in message
news:12v41nltm7jh3a0
@corp.supernews.com...
> Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
> Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not
> sure it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as
> long as the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
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| Larry 2007-03-10, 10:33 am |
| "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
news:r7yIh.550$0W5.48@trndny05:
> 1900 Mhz analog is offered in very, very small areas and nowhere in th
> continental US, as far as I know. Plus once you go to digital, you are
> back to 150 mW.
> Also, once you have started a call, the base station is controling the
> power output of the phone.
> Bob
>
>
I don't know of any 1900 Mhz AMPS. Never saw a phone with 1900 Mhz AMPS
on it. AMPS is on 850 Mhz.
Your comment about 150 mw limit on CDMA is simply not true. CDMA turns
down your transmitter from the control channel to level your signal on
the shared channel with the others using that channel. However, if you
are connecting from way off, beyond where toyphones will be heard, with a
3W amplifier on 800 Mhz into a serious antenna, this gives the system
lots more headroom to adjust your signal to level with. Where a 150mw
pocket phone with no antenna to speak of is at full power 2 miles from a
cell sector, the output power of a better phone, with a real antenna,
will be LESS than the pocket phone...making the same signal at the cell's
receiver. As you increase the range from the "last cell out", the signal
from the little 150mw phone, already at maximum power, tapers off until
the cell's receiver can no longer cope with it being far below the other
users...the call drops. The 3 watt CDMA phone, into a high gain antenna,
is simply told to increase its power to level the system. It doesn't run
out of signal/noise ratio until way beyond the range of the little
one....giving you way more range in areas where there are few towers
widely spaced apart, even on CDMA or GSM.
I have a Moto V60i, trimode with AMPS, that I use in the countryside
fixing church organs for a living. Leaving the city, I plug the V60i's
rear-mounted antenna connector into a 3W/2W bi-directional amplifier, the
DA4000 from cellantenna.com mounted in my service stepvan. A 6db,
permanently-mounted, dual band antenna is on top of the truck. My range
is about 5 times the range of the V60i alone because of the increased
overhead power range. Watching the power output dbm on the V60i test
mode page of its display, you can watch CDMA on Alltel (or Verizon I used
to have for that matter) reduce the output of the V60i to compensate for
the gain of the amp/antenna system. The V60i rarely bumps its 300mw
power limit driving the amp/antenna out in the boonies where I must have
service. To make this even sweeter, once I get to the worksite, I erect
an 11-element DB Products 800 Mhz paging yagi on a 25' swimming pool
aluminum telescoping handle above the truck and point it at the nearest
tower as I watch the tower's signal level on my receiver. This adds
another 8-10 db gain over the moving antenna, again, reducing the phone's
output power accordingly, if necessary. I normally don't fool with the
beam unless I'm having trouble with the mobile antenna's connectability.
Offshore sailing in the Atlantic, If I put the beam 50' up the mainmast
of the ketch and point it towards the coast as much as I can, with the
DA4000 running off the house batteries, I have cellphone service to
Alltel on CDMA or AMPS out 50 to 60 miles into the Atlantic....instead of
3-5 of everyone else's toyphone aboard.
The cell controls the power output. The 3W amp and high gain antenna
simply give it a far higher available power limit with which to level my
signal against the others closer in. Works great. So will the
M800/M900.
Larry
--
"POWER is our friend...."
(Robert Mitchell - paging engineer and system owner)
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| Pegleg 2007-03-10, 10:33 am |
| On 9 Mar 2007 18:27:25 -0800, "Gene" <gbowman86@yahoo.com> wrote:
>LG VX5300 has analog. 325i has better reception but the LG is pretty
>close behind.
The 325i is a great tri-mode phone.
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| Steven J. Sobol 2007-03-10, 10:33 pm |
| In article <4oWdnVV0zrU- Bm_YnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d
@insightbb.com>, jdoe wrote:
> What for? Analog will be gone soon so who cares?
Verizon won't have it any more.
Several rural carriers need it and are continuing to use it.
If you never leave the big cities, it probably makes no difference
whether your phone has analog capability or not.
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
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| Dennis Ferguson 2007-03-10, 10:33 pm |
| On 2007-03-10, The Other Funk <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote:
> Finding the keyboard operational
> Larry entered:
> 1900 Mhz analog is offered in very, very small areas and nowhere in th
> continental US, as far as I know. Plus once you go to digital, you are back
> to 150 mW.
> Also, once you have started a call, the base station is controling the power
> output of the phone.
The phone will also drive those power outputs running digital modes.
Power control is good. If you are close to a tower it saves your battery
to run at no greater output power than you need to talk. The difference
is that, with a 200 mW phone, once you get out far enough that the phone
is running 200 mW output you can go no further. With a 2W phone you
can keep going until you are 3 or 4 times that distance, assuming you
can still see the tower and the tower is prepared to use the same power
to talk back to you (which is the only thing which might limit the utility
of this).
I believe 3W digitial will get even better range than 3W AMPS as long
as the digital service at the tower is prepared to match you.
Dennis Ferguson
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| Larry 2007-03-10, 10:33 pm |
| Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnev6gbe.8c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:
> I believe 3W digitial will get even better range than 3W AMPS as long
> as the digital service at the tower is prepared to match you.
>
>
Not in my experience. Talking on AMPS, you can find a hotspot where the
receiver hears a minimal amount of multipath cancellation, which also
results in the best place to park the transmitter. On any digital scheme,
you can't hear the hotspot, it just drops out and finding the hotspot is
much harder.
"Can you hear me now?"....must have started on AMPS...(c;
Larry
--
How much price inflation is caused by illegal
aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!
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| Steven J. Sobol 2007-03-10, 10:33 pm |
| In article < Xns98EFC4A61BEFCnoon
ehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:
> Not in my experience. Talking on AMPS, you can find a hotspot where the
> receiver hears a minimal amount of multipath cancellation, which also
> results in the best place to park the transmitter. On any digital scheme,
> you can't hear the hotspot, it just drops out and finding the hotspot is
> much harder.
How much opportunity do you get to test this? The operators aren't
likely to be running the towers at the higher poweer levels, are they?
(I wish they would!)
--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
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| The Other Funk 2007-03-10, 10:33 pm |
| Finding the keyboard operational
Dennis Ferguson entered:
> On 2007-03-10, The Other Funk <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote:
>
> Dennis Ferguson
I've been out of the business for a couple of years now so maybe I
mis-remember this but I thought that the FCC set the output power limit for
digital at 200mW.
Bob
--
--
Coffee worth staying up for - NY Times
www.moondoggiecoffee.com
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| Larry 2007-03-10, 10:33 pm |
| "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnev6jht.5hi.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:
> How much opportunity do you get to test this? The operators aren't
> likely to be running the towers at the higher poweer levels, are they?
> (I wish they would!)
>
>
Who knows what the truth is any more. This goddamned monster bagphone is
just a disguised V60 in a huge box with the SAME OUTPUT POWER.
Man I'm pissed....screwed again by another cellular company.
The sooner Wimax happens across the planet, the better....
Larry
--
How much price inflation is caused by illegal
aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!
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| Larry 2007-03-10, 10:33 pm |
| "The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
news:qPJIh.3913$vb.461@trndny04:
> I've been out of the business for a couple of years now so maybe I
> mis-remember this but I thought that the FCC set the output power
> limit for digital at 200mW.
> Bob
>
>
Nope.... 3 watts on 800 Mhz, 2 watts on 1900 Mhz. The little power amps
don't care what the modulation scheme fed to the FM transmitter is.
They're FCC approved for those power levels....
Of course, on digital this is just the maximum power output when your
signal is too weak to level it with the other users. The difference is
if you're running a 3W max transmitter, other cells can hear you and
reduce loading revenues.
Tough shit....put up more towers in the COUNTRY.
Larry
--
How much price inflation is caused by illegal
aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!
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| On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:16:37 -0500, "Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
>Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not sure
>it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as long as
>the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
the moto v710 is a tri-mode phone. i have 2 and they are fine. the
710's are not a current phone but they can be had on eBay.
73,
rich, n9dko
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| On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:37:57 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>In article <4oWdnVV0zrU- Bm_YnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d
@insightbb.com>, jdoe wrote:
>
>Verizon won't have it any more.
>
>Several rural carriers need it and are continuing to use it.
>
>If you never leave the big cities, it probably makes no difference
>whether your phone has analog capability or not.
and that's the point. we leave the urban areas behind between 4-6
months each year. i read somewhere where VZW will be dropping analog
from their towers fairly soon but we're hoping that the smaller, rural
systems will continue to provide analong coverage.
73,
rich, n9dko
(not the OP)
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| Pegleg 2007-03-11, 10:33 am |
| On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:47:39 -0500, Rich < rich@donotsendmeemai
l.com>
wrote:
>the moto v710 is a tri-mode phone. i have 2 and they are fine. the
>710's are not a current phone but they can be had on eBay.
Great Tri-mode phone...it can also be easily hacked so it performs as
Motorola designed and not as Verizon crippled it.
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| George 2007-03-11, 3:33 pm |
| Steven J. Sobol wrote:
> In article <4oWdnVV0zrU- Bm_YnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d
@insightbb.com>, jdoe wrote:
>
> Verizon won't have it any more.
I routinely travel in 5 states and have had a digital only phone for
over 2 years and have never had issues. At least it the areas I travel
(which include a lot of sparsely populated areas) there have been
significant system buildouts.
>
> Several rural carriers need it and are continuing to use it.
Even the little mom & pop RSA that is in the corner of my state lit up
digital about 2 years ago and have added a bunch of cell sites.
>
> If you never leave the big cities, it probably makes no difference
> whether your phone has analog capability or not.
>
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| Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
news:1088v2t5muqf5i8
cgaeivdfdto0ak1fin1@
4ax.com:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:47:39 -0500, Rich < rich@donotsendmeemai
l.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Great Tri-mode phone...it can also be easily hacked so it performs as
> Motorola designed and not as Verizon crippled it.
>
They'll use the excuse of its lack of government-mandated GPS tracking to
keep it off their systems, a convenient excuse to stop putting more RF
power in the hands of users.....just like V60 or other V-series phones.
Larry
--
How much price inflation is caused by illegal
aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!
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| clifto 2007-03-12, 4:33 am |
| Pegleg wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:47:39 -0500, Rich < rich@donotsendmeemai
l.com>
> wrote:
>
> Great Tri-mode phone...it can also be easily hacked so it performs as
> Motorola designed and not as Verizon crippled it.
Everything I've read suggests there aren't a lot of things one can fix.
Specifically, from what I've read, OBEX is impossible.
--
Martians drive SUVs! <http://oregonmag.com/MarsWarm307.html>
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| clifto 2007-03-12, 4:33 am |
| George wrote:
> Steven J. Sobol wrote:
>
> I routinely travel in 5 states and have had a digital only phone for
> over 2 years and have never had issues. At least it the areas I travel
> (which include a lot of sparsely populated areas) there have been
> significant system buildouts.
And I can still go to the Menard's (big-box lumber etc. store) in
Bolingbrook IL, stand in the parking lot and get nothing but analog
connection. Bolingbrook isn't exactly a small town, nor is it far from
other towns. As long as there's a place less than twenty miles from home
(and for that matter, less than 20 miles from downtown Chicago) where I
can go and not get a digital connection, I'll be suspicious of claims
that I don't need analog.
--
Martians drive SUVs! <http://oregonmag.com/MarsWarm307.html>
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| Pegleg 2007-03-12, 4:33 am |
| On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:18:33 -0500, clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>Everything I've read suggests there aren't a lot of things one can fix.
>Specifically, from what I've read, OBEX is impossible.
The hacks are readily available...I did the OBEX hack and the BT hack.
Everything works fine. I use the phone with MPT and transfer mp3/jpgs
and more.
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| clifto 2007-03-12, 4:33 am |
| Pegleg wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:18:33 -0500, clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The hacks are readily available...I did the OBEX hack and the BT hack.
> Everything works fine. I use the phone with MPT and transfer mp3/jpgs
> and more.
Then I shall have to look a little harder for the goodies, I suppose.
Got pointers?
--
Martians drive SUVs! <http://oregonmag.com/MarsWarm307.html>
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| George 2007-03-12, 12:33 pm |
| clifto wrote:
> George wrote:
>
> And I can still go to the Menard's (big-box lumber etc. store) in
> Bolingbrook IL, stand in the parking lot and get nothing but analog
> connection. Bolingbrook isn't exactly a small town, nor is it far from
> other towns. As long as there's a place less than twenty miles from home
> (and for that matter, less than 20 miles from downtown Chicago) where I
> can go and not get a digital connection, I'll be suspicious of claims
> that I don't need analog.
>
Here is a good experiment. The previous phone I had was a trimode.
Sometimes as you described it would switch to analog mode which would
lead you to believe it had to. And even worse it would sometimes switch
when I wasn't making any calls and rapidly discharge the battery.
I disabled analog (on that phone you went into the service menu and
picked CDMA only) and found I never needed to re-enable it and had no
issues even in the areas where it would previously flip into analog
mode. It was retired with analog disabled and now I have a digital only
phone for over two years and have never had an issue.
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| Zeppo 2007-03-12, 12:33 pm |
| "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:slrnev5r7m.euv.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net...
> In article <4oWdnVV0zrU- Bm_YnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d
@insightbb.com>, jdoe wrote:
>
> Verizon won't have it any more.
>
> Several rural carriers need it and are continuing to use it.
>
> If you never leave the big cities, it probably makes no difference
> whether your phone has analog capability or not.
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl **
> Linux/*BSD/Windows
> Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
>
> It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
I'm a mile and a northwest of Philadelphia and I loose digital signal as
soon as I turn onto my street. Amps comes in loud and clear so I care very
much about keeping analogue alive.
I've been holding off upgrading my v710 for a few months until I can find a
suitable tri-mode replacement.
Jon
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| George 2007-03-12, 12:33 pm |
| Zeppo wrote:
> "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
> news:slrnev5r7m.euv.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net...
>
> I'm a mile and a northwest of Philadelphia and I loose digital signal as
> soon as I turn onto my street. Amps comes in loud and clear so I care very
> much about keeping analogue alive.
I will bet that if you disable analog on your phone you will find that
the service is fine on your street. Philly really has good coverage and
it is very unlikely there are any analog only cells there. So that means
if you get an analog signal you should also get a digital signal and it
is likely your phone is being stupid. Look for my post in this thread.
My old trimode phone used to do weird stuff like that. There was one
spot on the Interstate not far from my house where there is a long curve
around a mountain. My old phone would frequently kick the call into
analog when I was going through there. I disabled analog and there was
never an issue.
>
> I've been holding off upgrading my v710 for a few months until I can find a
> suitable tri-mode replacement.
>
> Jon
>
>
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| The Other Funk 2007-03-12, 3:33 pm |
| Finding the keyboard operational
Larry entered:
> Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in
> news:1088v2t5muqf5i8
cgaeivdfdto0ak1fin1@
4ax.com:
>
>
> They'll use the excuse of its lack of government-mandated GPS
> tracking to keep it off their systems, a convenient excuse to stop
> putting more RF power in the hands of users.....just like V60 or
> other V-series phones.
>
>
>
> Larry
Larry, you do realize that by forgetting the smiley that comment makes you
look like a freakin' paranoid nut job, doen't you?
Bob
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| clifto 2007-03-12, 3:33 pm |
| George wrote:
> clifto wrote:
>
> Here is a good experiment. The previous phone I had was a trimode.
> Sometimes as you described it would switch to analog mode which would
> lead you to believe it had to. And even worse it would sometimes switch
> when I wasn't making any calls and rapidly discharge the battery.
My v710 has rarely switched into analog mode anywhere, except at that
store in that heavily populated area.
> I disabled analog (on that phone you went into the service menu and
> picked CDMA only) and found I never needed to re-enable it and had no
> issues even in the areas where it would previously flip into analog
> mode.
Tried that while at the store using my old StarTac 7868. No signal.
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| Dennis Ferguson 2007-03-12, 3:33 pm |
| On 2007-03-11, The Other Funk <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote:
> I've been out of the business for a couple of years now so maybe I
> mis-remember this but I thought that the FCC set the output power limit for
> digital at 200mW.
No, the regulations are quite agnostic about the transmission mode. For
the PCS band the regulations are in Part 24 here
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/...47cfr24_06.html
and the limit in 24.232 is 2W EIRP, no mention of mode. For cellular
the regulations are in Part 22 here
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/...47cfr22_06.html
but have changed hugely since I last paid attention; all the AMPS-related
stuff I remember is gone. The only limit I can find in there now is in 22.913
and is 7W ERP for handsets, again with no mention of mode, though I could
be missing something.
The only trick with either of these is that specifying the power as ERP
or EIRP means you are supposed to reduce the RF output of the phone
as you improve the antenna, which people interested in running high
power usually skip.
Dennis Ferguson
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| Larry 2007-03-12, 10:33 pm |
| Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnevbbqg.86.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:
> The only trick with either of these is that specifying the power as ERP
> or EIRP means you are supposed to reduce the RF output of the phone
> as you improve the antenna, which people interested in running high
> power usually skip.
>
>
I suppose running 3W into the eleven element DB Products beam at 50' at
the beach is a "tad over"...but, who's to quibble....(c;
We'll use lossy cable...yeah, that'll do it....RG-58.
Wilson Cellular warns you may not use an antenna above 5.14 db gain with
their 3W/2W Wilson power amp (booster). It also states that none of
their antennas are over 5.14db gain (probably no matter what the ad hype
says.)
Antenna gain drops, drastically, when you're selling amplifiers for $299
a pop....(c;
(no mention of dbi or dbd, for you RF techies.)
Larry
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If RF is so dangerous, how can the Army say their new truck-mounted
gigawatt microwave crowd disburser is "safe"?.....
(No fair taking aluminum snow coasters to the political demonstrations
and reflecting it back at the cops.)
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| SteveC 2007-03-15, 4:33 am |
| I've had the same issue of switching to analog, but I thought maybe the =
digital lines were used; I switched to Automatic A from B just now to =
see if that makes any difference. There doesn't seem to be any way to =
turn analog off, which I was going to try.
"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message =
news:ocngc4-1ut.ln1@remote.clifto.com...
George wrote:
> clifto wrote:
>=20
> Here is a good experiment. The previous phone I had was a trimode.=20
> Sometimes as you described it would switch to analog mode which would=20
> lead you to believe it had to. And even worse it would sometimes =
switch=20
> when I wasn't making any calls and rapidly discharge the battery.
My v710 has rarely switched into analog mode anywhere, except at that
store in that heavily populated area.
> I disabled analog (on that phone you went into the service menu and=20
> picked CDMA only) and found I never needed to re-enable it and had no=20
> issues even in the areas where it would previously flip into analog=20
> mode.
Tried that while at the store using my old StarTac 7868. No signal.
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| none@none.net 2007-03-16, 12:33 pm |
| Nokia 6235. Look at the Nokia site first. It is a great phone.
none
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:16:37 -0500, "Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
>Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not sure
>it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as long as
>the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
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| none@none.net 2007-03-16, 12:33 pm |
| Nokia 6235. Look at the Nokia site first. It is a great phone.
none
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:16:37 -0500, "Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
>Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not sure
>it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as long as
>the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
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