Verizon wireless - Unsolicited pre-recorded commercial messages

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Unsolicited pre-recorded commercial messages

Jack Myers

2007-03-29, 3:33 pm

Dorothy "from the Mortgage Branch" found my cell phone number yesterday and started her incredible
prerecorded spiel. Her Caller ID (712-429-0375) is bogus according to several web pages. I called
VZW Customer Service to complain, but their only suggestion was that I put my number on the national
do-not-call register.

Aren't these calls already prohibited?

What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number on a national list that has an expiration date?

Bert Hyman

2007-03-29, 3:33 pm

jmyers@n6wuz.net (Jack Myers) wrote in
news:130nvj565u6mg8c
@corp.supernews.com:

> Aren't these calls already prohibited?

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm

Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit
telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone
numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so
most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers on their
cell phones without their consent.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com

xPosTech

2007-03-29, 3:33 pm

On 3/29/2007 12:59 PM, Jack Myers wrote:
> Dorothy "from the Mortgage Branch" found my cell phone number yesterday and started her incredible
> prerecorded spiel. Her Caller ID (712-429-0375) is bogus according to several web pages. I called
> VZW Customer Service to complain, but their only suggestion was that I put my number on the national
> do-not-call register.
>
> Aren't these calls already prohibited?
>
> What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number on a national list that has an expiration date?
Why would a carrier not aggressively prohibit or filter such calls? It
would be a service welcomed by their customers (yours truly included).
After all who does business with telemarketers? All they do is call and
run up your minutes.

--
Ted
I wasn't born in Texas but
I got back here as soon as I could
(Don't forget to take out the trash)

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent,
but you'd be a fool to withhold that from your superiors.

Todd Allcock

2007-03-30, 4:33 am

At 29 Mar 2007 18:04:38 +0000 Bert Hyman wrote:

> http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2007/02/dnccellphones.htm
>
> Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit
> telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone
> numbers. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so
> most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers on their
> cell phones without their consent.

AFAIK, however, there's a loophole- due to number portability, some cell
numbers (like mine) were previously landline numbers. IIRC, these
numbers are fair game until you put them on the DNC list, or alert them
that they've called a cell and they're not to call back.

--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

tscottme

2007-03-30, 4:33 am

I signed up for the DNC when it was started and have never received a
telemarketing call on any phone I've registered. I also never give my cell
phone number to any business. If you don't care enough about keeping your
number from the telemarketers to register on DNC why do you expect Vzw to do
it for you?

Another suggestion is to register on DNC and read up on suing telemarketers
at killthecalls.com.

Scott

--

Scott
"Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> wrote in message
news:130nvj565u6mg8c
@corp.supernews.com...
> Dorothy "from the Mortgage Branch" found my cell phone number yesterday
> and started her incredible
> prerecorded spiel. Her Caller ID (712-429-0375) is bogus according to
> several web pages. I called
> VZW Customer Service to complain, but their only suggestion was that I put
> my number on the national
> do-not-call register.
>
> Aren't these calls already prohibited?
>
> What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number on a national list
> that has an expiration date?

Michael Wise

2007-03-30, 10:33 am

In article < 2KWdnQFHsOwhT5HbnZ2d
nUVZ_qKqnZ2d@comcast
.com>,
"tscottme" <blahblah@blah.net> wrote:

> I signed up for the DNC when it was started and have never received a
> telemarketing call on any phone I've registered. I also never give my cell
> phone number to any business. If you don't care enough about keeping your
> number from the telemarketers to register on DNC why do you expect Vzw to do
> it for you?

I don't understand what logic leads you to conclude that because you
registered your numbers on the DNC list and don't give your numbers out
to businesses...that others must not have done either or both if they
receive telemarketing calls and you don't?

--Mike

Cubit

2007-03-30, 12:33 pm

"expiration date?"
I listed my numbers a long time ago. Do I need to re-up?

"Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> wrote in message
news:130nvj565u6mg8c
@corp.supernews.com...
> Dorothy "from the Mortgage Branch" found my cell phone number yesterday
> and started her incredible
> prerecorded spiel. Her Caller ID (712-429-0375) is bogus according to
> several web pages. I called
> VZW Customer Service to complain, but their only suggestion was that I put
> my number on the national
> do-not-call register.
>
> Aren't these calls already prohibited?
>
> What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number on a national list
> that has an expiration date?

Agent_C

2007-03-30, 12:33 pm

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:08:15 -0800, "Cubit" <no@not.not> wrote:

>"expiration date?"
>I listed my numbers a long time ago. Do I need to re-up?

Numbers on the FTC Do-Not-Call registry expire after 5-years; at which
time you can re-subscribe.

That is of course if they don't delete your number by accident, which
happened to me. Check out this snippet from another discussion:
http://tinyurl.com/ytj2qn

(The response I ultimately got from the Chairman's office blamed it on
Verizon)

A_C

tscottme

2007-03-30, 10:33 pm

"Michael Wise" <no@no.spam> wrote in message
news:no-6688D9.08114630032007@news.easynews.com...
> In article < 2KWdnQFHsOwhT5HbnZ2d
nUVZ_qKqnZ2d@comcast
.com>,
> "tscottme" <blahblah@blah.net> wrote:
>
>
> I don't understand what logic leads you to conclude that because you
> registered your numbers on the DNC list and don't give your numbers out
> to businesses...that others must not have done either or both if they
> receive telemarketing calls and you don't?
>
>
> --Mike

When the OP types "What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number on a
national list that has an expiration date?" , and when he is complaining
about receiving telemarketing calls, I conclude he hasn't put his number out
of nounds by registering on the DNC list.

If the OP's complaint indicated he had been on the DNC, and if he indicated
he doesn't give out his number, which is the most common way to be on
telemarketer's call list, I would have made a different suggestion.

I don't understand your logic that leads you to think the OP did follow the
rather obvious steps I suggested even though he mentioned nothing of them.

--

Scott

Michael Wise

2007-03-30, 10:33 pm

In article < XfSdnSYV8ZY85ZDbnZ2d
neKdnZydnZ2d@comcast
.com>,
"tscottme" <blahblah@blah.net> wrote:

>
> When the OP types "What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number on a
> national list that has an expiration date?" , and when he is complaining
> about receiving telemarketing calls, I conclude he hasn't put his number out
> of nounds by registering on the DNC list.

That's might faulty reasoning. Consider the following:

The Do Not Call registry was instituted on June 27. 2003

If listings expire after five years, that means they won't start
expiring till June 27, 2008.

A person inquiring "What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number
on a national list that has an expiration date?" does not suggest they
haven't done so...but rather, why there should be an expiration date.

>
> If the OP's complaint indicated he had been on the DNC, and if he indicated
> he doesn't give out his number, which is the most common way to be on
> telemarketer's call list, I would have made a different suggestion.

Insetad, w/o having any facts, you assumed he hadn't done so and
unnecessarily castigated him.

> I don't understand your logic that leads you to think the OP did follow the
> rather obvious steps I suggested even though he mentioned nothing of them.

I don't know whether he did or he didn't. Not knowing that, I wouldn't
make any assumptions one way or another. I certainly wouldn't lecture
him based on assumption not supported by the known facts.

--Mike

Steven J. Sobol

2007-03-31, 12:33 pm

In article <no-DF0035.19125530032007@news.easynews.com>, Michael Wise wrote:

> A person inquiring "What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number
> on a national list that has an expiration date?" does not suggest they
> haven't done so...but rather, why there should be an expiration date.

Because people change phone numbers. Two of the phone numbers at the
office we moved into last year used to belong to individuals. I still
get collections and telemarketing calls for them.

--
Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.

Wreckless

2007-04-02, 10:33 pm

I have been under the impression that cell phones are protected
because they have to pay for the time that telemarketers use to call.
I tried to call back the number and it was a dead number. I got the
call again the next day on my company Nextel and I chose option 1, to
talk to an operator. I started to ask that my name be taken off the
list and I was immediately hung up upon.

I did call Verizon to complain and they sent me to the do not call
lsit. I asked if, since I got the calls on two phone numbers, they
were getting probably thousands and they should help us. She told me
to go to the do not call list. I said that if many of us were affected
that the company should represent us and she told me to go to the do
not call list.

I think that we are on our own here.

At least the ones from Verizon are free.

So, what's the law about calling cell phones?

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:59:01 -0000, "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net>
wrote:

>Dorothy "from the Mortgage Branch" found my cell phone number yesterday and started her incredible
>prerecorded spiel. Her Caller ID (712-429-0375) is bogus according to several web pages. I called
>VZW Customer Service to complain, but their only suggestion was that I put my number on the national
>do-not-call register.
>
>Aren't these calls already prohibited?
>
>What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number on a national list that has an expiration date?

jgrove24@hotmail.com

2007-04-07, 10:33 pm

On Mar 30, 9:12 pm, Michael Wise <n...@no.spam> wrote:
> In article < XfSdnSYV8ZY85ZDbnZ2d
neKdnZydn...@comcast.com>,
>
>
>
> "tscottme" <blahb...@blah.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> That's might faulty reasoning. Consider the following:
>
> The Do Not Call registry was instituted on June 27. 2003
>
> If listings expire after five years, that means they won't start
> expiring till June 27, 2008.
>
> A person inquiring "What's the advantage of posting my cellphone number
> on a national list that has an expiration date?" does not suggest they
> haven't done so...but rather, why there should be an expiration date.
>
>
>
>
> Insetad, w/o having any facts, you assumed he hadn't done so and
> unnecessarily castigated him.
>
>
> I don't know whether he did or he didn't. Not knowing that, I wouldn't
> make any assumptions one way or another. I certainly wouldn't lecture
> him based on assumption not supported by the known facts.
>
> --Mike

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