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| Frankster 2007-04-14, 10:33 am |
| Okay, I am considering moving from my LG VX8300 to the Q.
I want to tether this phone for EVDO access (I know, +$44.95/mo).
Does anyone who has one care to comment on how you like it?
Couple of questions...
-Does it have strong or weak vibrate mode?
-Does it have loud or weak speakerphone?
-Can it be used (reasonably) one-handed?
-Is earpiece sound loud enough?
-Call quality? (signal and clarity)
-Does it have room in the Contacts area to include notes on the contact?
Thanks,
-Frank
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| Pegleg 2007-04-14, 3:33 pm |
| On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:27:40 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
wrote:
I would be interested in responses on this also. I am trying to decide
on a smart phone to use tethering.
What I have read on the Q pretty much says that Motorola got it right
but WM dropped the ball.
Does Verizon cripple the Q in any way?
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| Frankster 2007-04-14, 3:33 pm |
| I've been tethering my 8300 for EVDO on the sly. Works good. But I'm about
ready to jump to a data plan because I really want more Scheduling and
Contacts flexibility than the 8300 gives me. Therefore I'm looking at the
PDA line. And... if I belly up for the $44.95/mo data plan add-on, I'll be
able to drop my current T-Mobile $29.95/mo data plan that I use in selected
Hotspots (i.e. Starbucks). That'll help with the expense.
What do you mean "WM" dropped the ball. Who/what is WM?
Also, I noticed that the the only Palms that advertise as tethering capable
are the Palm OS variety, not the Windows OS variety. Weird. Not to mention
they are more two-handed devices (stylus and all that).
As for crippling... I haven't checked, but I'd expect the same as the 8300
and other VZW phones. Now that the memory slots are available you can always
copy pics back and forth. Personally, I don't care about ringtones and music
and car interfaces.
-Frank
"Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:27:40 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would be interested in responses on this also. I am trying to decide
> on a smart phone to use tethering.
>
> What I have read on the Q pretty much says that Motorola got it right
> but WM dropped the ball.
>
> Does Verizon cripple the Q in any way?
>
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| Frankster 2007-04-14, 10:33 pm |
| Just read this on Hofo...
"Whenever I want to make a phone call and press the send button, the phone
gives off a short chirp to denote that the phone is dialing. I have tried
everything I could think of to turn this off, but nothing works. You would
think that setting the phone to silent mode would do the trick, but nope, it
still chirps when I press send."
That could be a deal-breaker for me. My phone stays in "stealth mode" 99
percent of the time, and on vibrate. It's on 24/7. I don't need no stinking
"chirp" when pressing send. Especially on a text message, which I assume
also happens.
No one on Hofo's offered any rebuttal, so I guess it really does this.
-Frank
"Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:27:40 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
> wrote:
>
> I would be interested in responses on this also. I am trying to decide
> on a smart phone to use tethering.
>
> What I have read on the Q pretty much says that Motorola got it right
> but WM dropped the ball.
>
> Does Verizon cripple the Q in any way?
>
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| Pegleg 2007-04-14, 10:33 pm |
| On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:33:43 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
>What do you mean "WM" dropped the ball. Who/what is WM?
WM5 OS
The reviews said Moto has done a good job on the phone design but WM 5
was a big disappointment as far as a smartphone OS is concerned.
Never used a smart phone so not sure what it means. I have always used
PDA + phone and tethered the phone to the PDA.
>
>As for crippling... I haven't checked, but I'd expect the same as the 8300
>and other VZW phones. Now that the memory slots are available you can always
>copy pics back and forth. Personally, I don't care about ringtones and music
>and car interfaces.
Yea, memory cards solve many issues. My primary interest is in having
the space and ability to run programs from the memory cards, not
pics/music/etc.
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| George 2007-04-14, 10:33 pm |
| Frankster wrote:
> I've been tethering my 8300 for EVDO on the sly. Works good. But I'm
> about ready to jump to a data plan because I really want more Scheduling
> and Contacts flexibility than the 8300 gives me. Therefore I'm looking
> at the PDA line. And... if I belly up for the $44.95/mo data plan
> add-on, I'll be able to drop my current T-Mobile $29.95/mo data plan
> that I use in selected Hotspots (i.e. Starbucks). That'll help with the
> expense.
Just a nitpick, the Q isn't a PDA phone because it doesn't have a touch
screen and runs the Windows mobile not Pocket PC OS.
>
> What do you mean "WM" dropped the ball. Who/what is WM?
>
> Also, I noticed that the the only Palms that advertise as tethering
> capable are the Palm OS variety, not the Windows OS variety. Weird. Not
> to mention they are more two-handed devices (stylus and all that).
>
> As for crippling... I haven't checked, but I'd expect the same as the
> 8300 and other VZW phones. Now that the memory slots are available you
> can always copy pics back and forth. Personally, I don't care about
> ringtones and music and car interfaces.
>
> -Frank
>
> "Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
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| Q is a great phone and the display resolution is awesome. get an
extended battery.
look on qusers.com or everythingq.com forums for the simple registry
hack to eliminate the chirp. i find the freeware PHM registry editor
to be very simple to use, others like resco explorer
-Does it have strong or weak vibrate mode? vibrate volume is
fully adjustable
-Does it have loud or weak speakerphone? plenty loud enough for
me, compared to other phones i have owned
-Can it be used (reasonably) one-handed? yes, for
dialing or surfing, but the number buttons are small and hard to read,
most numbers i dial are in my contacts or returning a call in caller
id, so this doesnt bother me. i use 2 thumbs for typing emails.
-Is earpiece sound loud enough? yes with sennheiser stereo
wire, no with jabra stereo wire, no with logitech bluetooth
-Call quality? (signal and clarity) both great, far better
than any comparable htc phone, comparable to nokia phones for signal,
but better clarity
-Does it have room in the Contacts area to include notes on the
contact? yes
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:38:06 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
wrote:
>Just read this on Hofo...
>
>"Whenever I want to make a phone call and press the send button, the phone
>gives off a short chirp to denote that the phone is dialing. I have tried
>everything I could think of to turn this off, but nothing works. You would
>think that setting the phone to silent mode would do the trick, but nope, it
>still chirps when I press send."
>
>That could be a deal-breaker for me. My phone stays in "stealth mode" 99
>percent of the time, and on vibrate. It's on 24/7. I don't need no stinking
>"chirp" when pressing send. Especially on a text message, which I assume
>also happens.
>
>No one on Hofo's offered any rebuttal, so I guess it really does this.
>
>-Frank
>
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| Frankster 2007-04-15, 12:33 pm |
| > Just a nitpick, the Q isn't a PDA phone because it doesn't have a touch
> screen and runs the Windows mobile not Pocket PC OS.
Your definition? Or can you point me to an industry standard def?
-Frank
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| Frankster 2007-04-15, 12:33 pm |
| Hey cpm... thanks for this info! Especially the registry edit stuff. I am
very comfortable with that....
Also, I have *always* bought two extended batteries for every single phone I
have ever purchased. That's just me. I hate running down on battery power.
The solution is so simple I don't know why everyone doesn't do this.
Again, thanks!
-Frank
"cpm" < dontspamcmalikat@sbc
global.net> wrote in message
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>Q is a great phone and the display resolution is awesome. get an
> extended battery.
>
> look on qusers.com or everythingq.com forums for the simple registry
> hack to eliminate the chirp. i find the freeware PHM registry editor
> to be very simple to use, others like resco explorer
>
> -Does it have strong or weak vibrate mode? vibrate volume is
> fully adjustable
>
> -Does it have loud or weak speakerphone? plenty loud enough for
> me, compared to other phones i have owned
>
> -Can it be used (reasonably) one-handed? yes, for
> dialing or surfing, but the number buttons are small and hard to read,
> most numbers i dial are in my contacts or returning a call in caller
> id, so this doesnt bother me. i use 2 thumbs for typing emails.
>
> -Is earpiece sound loud enough? yes with sennheiser stereo
> wire, no with jabra stereo wire, no with logitech bluetooth
>
> -Call quality? (signal and clarity) both great, far better
> than any comparable htc phone, comparable to nokia phones for signal,
> but better clarity
>
> -Does it have room in the Contacts area to include notes on the
> contact? yes
>
> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 15:38:06 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
> wrote:
>
>
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| Michael Wise 2007-04-15, 12:33 pm |
| In article < 5aKdnTAzZvXq2r_bnZ2d
nUVZ_oytnZ2d@giganew
s.com>,
"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:
>
> Your definition? Or can you point me to an industry standard def?
The term PDA arose in the early 90's with the advent of the first Apple
Newton in 1993 (which I owned) and became a more widely used term as the
first consumer-affordable PDAs (Palm Pilot 1000) was released and became
widely popular (because it was cheaper, smaller, and simpler than the
Newton).
Although one cannot force the public to be aware of an accept existing
tech definitions, PDA has till always been used to refer to
stylus/touch-screen personal digital assistants.
--Mike
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| Frankster 2007-04-15, 3:33 pm |
|
"Michael Wise" <no@no.spam> wrote in message
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> In article < 5aKdnTAzZvXq2r_bnZ2d
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s.com>,
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:
>
>
> The term PDA arose in the early 90's with the advent of the first Apple
> Newton in 1993 (which I owned) and became a more widely used term as the
> first consumer-affordable PDAs (Palm Pilot 1000) was released and became
> widely popular (because it was cheaper, smaller, and simpler than the
> Newton).
>
> Although one cannot force the public to be aware of an accept existing
> tech definitions, PDA has till always been used to refer to
> stylus/touch-screen personal digital assistants.
>
>
>
> --Mike
Agreed. Basically these terms kinda morf over time.
VZW (which of course I was reverring to) categorizes them as "PDAs &
Smartphones", together. And then has yet another category for "Blackberry
Devices". Anyway.... I am actually interested in the Q, Blackberry and Palm
devices. Whatever they are called :)
-Frank
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| Todd Allcock 2007-04-15, 3:33 pm |
| At 15 Apr 2007 09:41:40 -0600 Frankster wrote:
>
> Your definition? Or can you point me to an industry standard def?
It's not an industry standard def, AFAIK. It's a Microsoft one.
Microsoft has historically made separate versions of the Windows Mobile
OS for "Smartphones" (keyboard/keypad-based devices without a touchscreen)
and "Pocket PC (not "PDA"- that's generic!) Phones"- devices with a
touchscreen.
This naming all goes away with Windows Mobile 6, where Smartphones get
the WM6 "Standard" OS, PPC Phones get "WM6 Professional" and any
remaining PPCs on the market without a built-in phone will have "WM6
Classic."
Apparently the Vista marketing team has demanded that all subsequent
Microsoft software products be as confusingly-named as Vista. ;-)
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| tavenger5 2007-04-15, 10:33 pm |
|
Frankster Wrote:
> Okay, I am considering moving from my LG VX8300 to the Q.
>
> I want to tether this phone for EVDO access (I know, +$44.95/mo).
>
> Does anyone who has one care to comment on how you like it?
>
> Couple of questions...
>
> -Does it have strong or weak vibrate mode?
> -Does it have loud or weak speakerphone?
> -Can it be used (reasonably) one-handed?
> -Is earpiece sound loud enough?
> -Call quality? (signal and clarity)
> -Does it have room in the Contacts area to include notes on the
> contact?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Frank
The Q has many good features. I love the screen and how thin it is.
However, there are some things that bug me. It does some things that
you wouldn't expect and takes some getting used to. For example, when
you highlight a contact to call them, you'd expect, that when you press
send it would call them using the default number. It doesn't always do
this. Depending if you have called or txted them last depends on if
the contact will be called when pressing send. If you txted the person
last, pressing send will take you to the recent calls list. That
doesn't make any sense at all. Because of this I've mistakenly called
the last person that has called me. (or last person I called before
making this call)
Vibrate isn't as 'loud' as my old vx8100. I miss calls sometimes cause
I can't feel it as much.
Speakerphone is loud.
You're not going to type with it easily with one hand.
Call quality is good.
There is a 'notes' field for every contact along with every other
possible number, and address you can think of.
--
tavenger5
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| Frankster 2007-04-16, 4:33 am |
| Looks like I wasn't as smart as I thought I was about monthly costs (big
surprise!) LOL.
Turns out that although the data plan is $45/mo, it costs another $15/mo for
tethering. Bringing the total to $60/mo in addition to the voice plan. Also,
the data plan doesn't cover text messages. You still need a text message
plan on top of that. Kinda pricy. My current family voice plan is already
$142/mo total with a mobil web, taxes and text plan. I'd be at about $202/mo
with the Smartphone/PDA. Wow.
Also, I found out that you can't tether via bluetooth like with the 8300.
You need to use a cable.
Shoot.
-Frank
"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, I am considering moving from my LG VX8300 to the Q.
>
> I want to tether this phone for EVDO access (I know, +$44.95/mo).
>
> Does anyone who has one care to comment on how you like it?
>
> Couple of questions...
>
> -Does it have strong or weak vibrate mode?
> -Does it have loud or weak speakerphone?
> -Can it be used (reasonably) one-handed?
> -Is earpiece sound loud enough?
> -Call quality? (signal and clarity)
> -Does it have room in the Contacts area to include notes on the contact?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Frank
>
| |
| Pegleg 2007-04-16, 4:33 am |
| On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:31:03 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
wrote:
>Looks like I wasn't as smart as I thought I was about monthly costs (big
>surprise!) LOL.
>
>Turns out that although the data plan is $45/mo, it costs another $15/mo for
>tethering. Bringing the total to $60/mo in addition to the voice plan.
That is just what I was questioning when I commented on a $44.99 data
plan availability. $59.99 is best I've seen with Verizon.
> Also,
>the data plan doesn't cover text messages. You still need a text message
>plan on top of that.
How many text messages do you send in a week?
>Kinda pricy.
Agree!
>Also, I found out that you can't tether via bluetooth like with the 8300.
>You need to use a cable.
Have you looked at some of the other "smartphones"?
| |
| Michael Wise 2007-04-16, 4:33 am |
| In article < 4t0623d9e4pf050o60oc
6epu82okeg674o@4ax.com>,
Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:31:03 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> That is just what I was questioning when I commented on a $44.99 data
> plan availability. $59.99 is best I've seen with Verizon.
And I'll tell you again that this is incorrect. If one has a PDA phone,
the cost of the data plan is $44.99. There is no extra fee for
tethering. I tether my Treo 700p to my MacBook all the time...and still,
I pay $44.95/month for data.
$59.99 is the cost of the data plan if you are not using a PDA
phone...but you specifically asked about PDA phones.
--Mike
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| Frankster 2007-04-16, 10:33 am |
|
"Michael Wise" <no@no.spam> wrote in message
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> In article < 4t0623d9e4pf050o60oc
6epu82okeg674o@4ax.com>,
> Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
>
>
>
> And I'll tell you again that this is incorrect. If one has a PDA phone,
> the cost of the data plan is $44.99. There is no extra fee for
> tethering. I tether my Treo 700p to my MacBook all the time...and still,
> I pay $44.95/month for data.
>
>
> $59.99 is the cost of the data plan if you are not using a PDA
> phone...but you specifically asked about PDA phones.
>
>
> --Mike
The salesperson at the store who was wanting to sell me a phone and a data
plans, told me, for sure, he would charge me an additional $15/mo for the
DUN tethering ability. This was even after I expressed extreme
disappointment when learning of the additional $15/mo charge. Bottom line,
if they won't sell it to you, you're not gonna get it. Are you saying, just
buy the darned $45/mo plan and you will automatically get the ability to
tether via DUN? How could the salesperson sell me something for $15/mo with
no additional benefit over the data plan?
As for Pegleg's comment about bluetooth and checking other Smarthpones... I
checked the Q, and PalmWx when I was there and found no bluetooth profile
for DUN. Additionally, the salesperson told me that all Smarthpones/PDAs
were the same the Bluetooth regard. No DUN via Bluetooth, only cable. My
8300 has a DUN profile.
Also, also... I looked into aircards online, thinking maybe that might be a
lower cost way to high-speed Internet access. Seems they have two plans for
aircards. One is National Access for $60/mo and the other is Broadband
access for $80/mo (described as higher speed than National Access). This
also makes me wonder what I would be getting on a Smartphone at $60/mo.
Just on the side, after spending 30-45 minutes actually punching the
keyboard on the Q and the PalmWx, making calls, listening to the speaker
phone, listening to the call quality, etcetera, I like the PalmWx much
better. There is a noticeable delay in scrolling using the Q. Also, its
various features are much less intuitive to access than the PalmWx. All in
all I decided, if I do this, I will get the PalmWx.
-Frank
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| Frankster 2007-04-16, 10:33 am |
|
"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Wise" <no@no.spam> wrote in message
> news:no-9DE6B9.23422015042007@news.easynews.com...
>
> The salesperson at the store who was wanting to sell me a phone and a data
> plans, told me, for sure, he would charge me an additional $15/mo for the
> DUN tethering ability. This was even after I expressed extreme
> disappointment when learning of the additional $15/mo charge. Bottom line,
> if they won't sell it to you, you're not gonna get it. Are you saying,
> just buy the darned $45/mo plan and you will automatically get the ability
> to tether via DUN? How could the salesperson sell me something for $15/mo
> with no additional benefit over the data plan?
>
> As for Pegleg's comment about bluetooth and checking other Smarthpones...
> I checked the Q, and PalmWx when I was there and found no bluetooth
> profile for DUN. Additionally, the salesperson told me that all
> Smarthpones/PDAs were the same the Bluetooth regard. No DUN via Bluetooth,
> only cable. My 8300 has a DUN profile.
>
> Also, also... I looked into aircards online, thinking maybe that might be
> a lower cost way to high-speed Internet access. Seems they have two plans
> for aircards. One is National Access for $60/mo and the other is Broadband
> access for $80/mo (described as higher speed than National Access). This
> also makes me wonder what I would be getting on a Smartphone at $60/mo.
>
> Just on the side, after spending 30-45 minutes actually punching the
> keyboard on the Q and the PalmWx, making calls, listening to the speaker
> phone, listening to the call quality, etcetera, I like the PalmWx much
> better. There is a noticeable delay in scrolling using the Q. Also, its
> various features are much less intuitive to access than the PalmWx. All
> in all I decided, if I do this, I will get the PalmWx.
>
> -Frank
Now I see this, under DUN, on the PalmWx website:
"Treo 700wx with Verizon Wireless service: connection via USB sync cable or
Bluetooth."
Maybe some of the confusion over tethering the Palm's come from the fact
than the previous Windows based unit (700w) did not support DUN in any
fashion. The new 700wx seems to support both. But the VZW rep doesn't know
that I guess.
You know, I'm looking at paying retail for this thing. In the case of the
Palm that's about $620. You'd think when selling a $600+ device the
salesperson would know a little more about it.
Oh well, there is that new 30-day eval period.
-Frank
| |
| Michael Wise 2007-04-16, 10:33 am |
| In article <mY- dnWtVWc4v677bnZ2dnUV
Z_jydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:
[color=darkred]
> The salesperson at the store who was wanting to sell me a phone and a data
> plans, told me, for sure, he would charge me an additional $15/mo for the
> DUN tethering ability. This was even after I expressed extreme
> disappointment when learning of the additional $15/mo charge. Bottom line,
> if they won't sell it to you, you're not gonna get it. Are you saying, just
> buy the darned $45/mo plan and you will automatically get the ability to
> tether via DUN? How could the salesperson sell me something for $15/mo with
> no additional benefit over the data plan?
You'll have to ask the salesperson that question. VZW clearly lists a
$45 "unlimited" data plan for PDA/smartphones. It's easy enough to
connect a 700p to one's computer via BT or USB cable (I prefer the
latter for throughput reasons), so I'm not sure how they could prevent
one from doing so even if they wanted to charge an extra tethering fee.
>
> As for Pegleg's comment about bluetooth and checking other Smarthpones... I
> checked the Q, and PalmWx when I was there and found no bluetooth profile
> for DUN. Additionally, the salesperson told me that all Smarthpones/PDAs
> were the same the Bluetooth regard. No DUN via Bluetooth, only cable. My
> 8300 has a DUN profile.
My 700p does DUN via BT.
> Also, also... I looked into aircards online, thinking maybe that might be a
> lower cost way to high-speed Internet access. Seems they have two plans for
> aircards. One is National Access for $60/mo and the other is Broadband
> access for $80/mo (described as higher speed than National Access). This
> also makes me wonder what I would be getting on a Smartphone at $60/mo.
You wouldn't, you would be getting it at $45/month.
>
> Just on the side, after spending 30-45 minutes actually punching the
> keyboard on the Q and the PalmWx, making calls, listening to the speaker
> phone, listening to the call quality, etcetera, I like the PalmWx much
> better. There is a noticeable delay in scrolling using the Q. Also, its
> various features are much less intuitive to access than the PalmWx. All in
> all I decided, if I do this, I will get the PalmWx.
Personally, I wouldn't consider either one, as the Treo 700p is superior
to both.
--Mike
| |
| Pegleg 2007-04-16, 10:33 am |
| On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 07:52:16 -0600, "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com>
wrote:
>You know, I'm looking at paying retail for this thing. In the case of the
>Palm that's about $620. You'd think when selling a $600+ device the
>salesperson would know a little more about it.
You cannot count on the sales or customer service people to be
knowledgeable! On rare occasion you might find one but don't count on
it. Do your due dilligence!
>Oh well, there is that new 30-day eval period.
Read the fine print on that policy very carefully!
| |
| Frankster 2007-04-16, 12:33 pm |
|
"Michael Wise" <no@no.spam> wrote in message
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> In article <mY- dnWtVWc4v677bnZ2dnUV
Z_jydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> You'll have to ask the salesperson that question. VZW clearly lists a
> $45 "unlimited" data plan for PDA/smartphones. It's easy enough to
> connect a 700p to one's computer via BT or USB cable (I prefer the
> latter for throughput reasons), so I'm not sure how they could prevent
> one from doing so even if they wanted to charge an extra tethering fee.
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> My 700p does DUN via BT.
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> You wouldn't, you would be getting it at $45/month.
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> Personally, I wouldn't consider either one, as the Treo 700p is superior
> to both.
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> --Mike
Thank you Mike. It's interesting that the 700w was not capable of DUN while
the 700p always has been. Add to that the 700wx is capable of DUN and there
is much chance for misinterpretation/confusion. Perhaps the p will allow
something (without the extra $15) that the wx will not. Hmmm...
I'm beginning to think that my best bet here is to just try it out on the
add-a-line plan. That way the phone is hundreds of dollars cheaper (plus I
think they have some kind of 100 back thing on the data plan at this time).
That way I can also keep my "bread-n-butter" phone (business) while playing
with the new one. At the end of the 30 day trial I can always have the
numbers switched if I want.
Thanks for you input!
-Frank
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| Todd Allcock 2007-04-16, 12:33 pm |
| At 16 Apr 2007 07:15:27 -0600 Frankster wrote:
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> As for Pegleg's comment about bluetooth and checking other
> Smarthpones... I checked the Q, and PalmWx when I was there and found
> no bluetooth profile for DUN.
I'm not sure if there is dditional Verizon crippling doing on, But lack
of DUN is actually normal on newer Windows Mobile devices- DUN was
replaced by "PAN" (Personal Area Networking".) Rather than acting as a
"modem" over BT, the WinMo devices now act as network adapters. There's
an "Intenet Sharing" app on the phone you run to connect the PC to phone
and the PC sees the phone as a "Generic RNDIS" device and accesses the
internet through it without initiating a DUN connection.
Again, Verizon may have stripped this required Internet Sharing app from
their versions of WinMo phones, but I'd be surprised. At least on my T-Mo
phones the same app is needed for PAN via cable as well.
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| Frankster 2007-04-17, 10:33 am |
| Okay... I finally decided against the Q in favor or the PalmWX - I picked it
up yesterday. Now I need to learn the answers to operation myself. I did
this thourgh the add-a-line method (got phone for $300 after all rebates
with new 2-year contract on this line). Now I have a 3-line Family plan.
Actually I only need 2 lines but this avoided the $620 retail phone price :)
First observation: this is not a phone. It's a PDA with a phone feature :)
LOL! For folks like myself, used to actual phones, this is gonna take some
getting used to. I like it after the first half day of use though. 30 days
to decide.
I bellied up for the $15/mo "tethering charge" in addition to the $45/mo
data charge. I also added a $10/mo text plan. Plus, of course, the $10/mo
charge for an added line. For those keeping track, this is gonna make my
total monthly bill $80/mo higher than it was. I'm going from $142/mo to
$222/mo. Same minutes.
-Frank
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> Okay, I am considering moving from my LG VX8300 to the Q.
>
> I want to tether this phone for EVDO access (I know, +$44.95/mo).
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> Does anyone who has one care to comment on how you like it?
>
> Couple of questions...
>
> -Does it have strong or weak vibrate mode?
> -Does it have loud or weak speakerphone?
> -Can it be used (reasonably) one-handed?
> -Is earpiece sound loud enough?
> -Call quality? (signal and clarity)
> -Does it have room in the Contacts area to include notes on the contact?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Frank
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