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Pegleg

2007-04-26, 10:33 pm

Verizon is currently showing the following cards:

5740
V640
Aircard595
PC5750
USB 720 Modem
Kyocera KPC 650

Anyone know of a comparison of all these cards?

Seems that they all have the same capability (connect to
Broadband/National Access) so sensitivity must be the most important
capability.

What are your experiences?
Dennis Ferguson

2007-04-26, 10:33 pm

On 2007-04-27, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
> Verizon is currently showing the following cards:
>
> 5740
> V640
> Aircard595
> PC5750
> USB 720 Modem
> Kyocera KPC 650
>
> Anyone know of a comparison of all these cards?


I think only the 595 (PCMCIA), the USB720 (USB) and the V740
(Expresscard) are Rev. A cards. Rev. A is worth it, it increases
the downlink speed in good signal areas and dramatically
increases the uplink speed.

So there's three different cards worth buying with three different
interfaces. Pick the interface that works with the computer(s) you
have and you are done.

I personally like the USB interface. All computers have a USB
port, so it works with everything. In addition, I think the side
of the computer is not always the best place for a radio
transceiver, so the USB has the additional advantage that you can
use a long cable to locate the receiver by a window, or on the
roof of your car, or somewhere where the signal is better than
where you want to sit your laptop. Not everyone shares my taste,
however, and I've heard good things about both the 595 and the V740,
so they're probably pretty good too.

Dennis Ferguson
David M. Moore

2007-04-27, 4:33 am

Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnf32rcd.94.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:

> I think only the 595 (PCMCIA), the USB720 (USB) and the V740
> (Expresscard) are Rev. A cards. Rev. A is worth it, it increases
> the downlink speed in good signal areas and dramatically
> increases the uplink speed.



While we're on the subject of these cards, does anyone know if any of the
Verizon Wireless cards will work with Linux, or are they strictly
Windows/Mac OSX at this point?

David


Al Malone

2007-04-27, 10:33 am

Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> On 2007-04-27, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
>
> I think only the 595 (PCMCIA), the USB720 (USB) and the V740
> (Expresscard) are Rev. A cards. Rev. A is worth it, it increases
> the downlink speed in good signal areas and dramatically
> increases the uplink speed.
>
> So there's three different cards worth buying with three different
> interfaces. Pick the interface that works with the computer(s) you
> have and you are done.
>
> I personally like the USB interface. All computers have a USB
> port, so it works with everything. In addition, I think the side
> of the computer is not always the best place for a radio
> transceiver, so the USB has the additional advantage that you can
> use a long cable to locate the receiver by a window, or on the
> roof of your car, or somewhere where the signal is better than
> where you want to sit your laptop. Not everyone shares my taste,
> however, and I've heard good things about both the 595 and the V740,
> so they're probably pretty good too.
>
> Dennis Ferguson


The PC5750 is a Rev. A capable card. Greatly enhanced upload speed.
depending on where the USB adapter plugs in on your notebook computer it
may be more susceptible to physical damage. Other than that to ability
to work on a desktop is an advantage.

Al
Dennis Ferguson

2007-04-27, 3:33 pm

On 2007-04-27, David M. Moore <spammers@kissmyass.com> wrote:
> Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
> news:slrnf32rcd.94.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:
>
>
> While we're on the subject of these cards, does anyone know if any of the
> Verizon Wireless cards will work with Linux, or are they strictly
> Windows/Mac OSX at this point?


Some may. See

http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/08/2138237

Most of these cards look like regular USB serial devices to the
computer so it is a matter of identifying the device to the kernel
so it knows to treat it as a serial device.

Dennis Ferguson
David M. Moore

2007-04-28, 4:33 am

Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnf34lls.85.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:

> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/03/08/2138237


Thanks for the link, I'll have to look in to that :-)


David
Pete

2007-05-07, 7:33 am

On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:27:09 -0500, Dennis Ferguson
<dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:

>On 2007-04-27, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
>
>I think only the 595 (PCMCIA), the USB720 (USB) and the V740
>(Expresscard) are Rev. A cards. Rev. A is worth it, it increases
>the downlink speed in good signal areas and dramatically
>increases the uplink speed.
>
>So there's three different cards worth buying with three different
>interfaces. Pick the interface that works with the computer(s) you
>have and you are done.
>
>I personally like the USB interface. All computers have a USB
>port, so it works with everything. In addition, I think the side
>of the computer is not always the best place for a radio
>transceiver, so the USB has the additional advantage that you can
>use a long cable to locate the receiver by a window, or on the
>roof of your car, or somewhere where the signal is better than
>where you want to sit your laptop. Not everyone shares my taste,
>however, and I've heard good things about both the 595 and the V740,
>so they're probably pretty good too.
>
>Dennis Ferguson


I like the USB but with my laptop I wasnt able to open the cd/dvd
drive with it plugged in.
Todd Allcock

2007-05-07, 3:33 pm

At 07 May 2007 08:19:15 -0400 Pete wrote:

> I like the USB but with my laptop I wasnt able to open the cd/dvd
> drive with it plugged in.


A short USB extension cable would fix that, wouldn't it? Heck my local
"Everything's A Dollar" store even sells them now!

Dennis Ferguson

2007-05-07, 3:33 pm

On 2007-05-07, Pete <no@spam.net> wrote:
> I like the USB but with my laptop I wasnt able to open the cd/dvd
> drive with it plugged in.


I usually use an extension cable. It is a bit of a pain if you like to
like to walk around with your laptop, but I don't do that much.

I should note that the other disadvantage of USB is that driving the
transmitter at full power requires more current than the USB standard
allows (which is why they supply that Y-cable to plug it into two
ports), though most computers I've seen tested seem permissive.
My ideal device is still a tethered phone, which doesn't have this
problem (the V3xx I have for overseas use is close to perfect for
me), but with Verizon the tethered phone options aren't very
attractive.

Dennis Ferguson
Larry

2007-05-07, 10:33 pm

Pete <no@spam.net> wrote in news:j86u331uef7qlh8
80cbb4djid7980rh0mc@

4ax.com:

>


What difference does it make if you only get 5GB/month before you're
TERMINATED?

Larry
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Larry

2007-05-07, 10:33 pm

Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnf3v2mo.86.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:

> I should note that the other disadvantage of USB is that driving the
> transmitter at full power requires more current than the USB standard
> allows (which is why they supply that Y-cable to plug it into two
> ports), though most computers I've seen tested seem permissive.
>


I don't think that makes any difference. My Hauppauge HDTV USB receiver-
in-a-plug gets so hot you can't touch it while watching HDTV off the
little antenna. My Gateway laptop, which usually will run around 2
hours, is completely DRAINED by this dongle in 40 minutes of HDTV
viewing! I'm amazed how much DC power comes out of that little USB plug
(1) without it catching on fire!....(c;

HDTV looks great....as long as the notebook is PLUGGED INTO SERIOUS AC
POWER...(c;

Larry
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Dennis Ferguson

2007-05-11, 3:33 pm

On 2007-05-07, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Pete <no@spam.net> wrote in news:j86u331uef7qlh8
80cbb4djid7980rh0mc@

> 4ax.com:
>
>
> What difference does it make if you only get 5GB/month before you're
> TERMINATED?


I consider it a no-ETF contract termination clause. I'm thinking about
working towards that this month since I've passed my level of acceptable
annoyance with them.

Dennis Ferguson
Kevin Weaver

2007-05-11, 3:33 pm

I've read about some getting out of the ETF by using a lot of data
transfers. DL service packs. Etc. Once they see how much data your moving
they will cancel you. If they do that, then no ETF has to be paid by you.

Verizon's "Unlimited plan" is Limited.

I saw a guys website talking how he wanted to piss off Verizon so much that
he signed up for unlimited data, Then in one weekend racked up over 100GB in
transfers. ; )


"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:slrnf49f96.8t.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com...
> On 2007-05-07, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
> I consider it a no-ETF contract termination clause. I'm thinking about
> working towards that this month since I've passed my level of acceptable
> annoyance with them.
>
> Dennis Ferguson


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