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| hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone uses verizons 59.99 a month
data plan for thier home internet. On there site it says 5 gigs a month. I
am afraid this will not be enough. Does anyone user thier service and go
over 5 gigs a month? I am a heavy surfer. And add on top of that
downloading music and a game here and there I would most likely go over 5
gigs a month. Heck I can suck up 5 gigs a month on dial up. Just needing
thoughts.
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| Larry 2007-05-16, 10:33 pm |
| alien < aliensoul69_is_here@
oo.com> wrote in
news:Xns99329353A2B1
9aliensoul69ishereyo
c@216.151.153.41:
> hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone uses verizons 59.99 a
> month data plan for thier home internet. On there site it says 5 gigs
> a month. I am afraid this will not be enough. Does anyone user thier
> service and go over 5 gigs a month? I am a heavy surfer. And add on
> top of that downloading music and a game here and there I would most
> likely go over 5 gigs a month. Heck I can suck up 5 gigs a month on
> dial up. Just needing thoughts.
>
Read it closer:
"UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess,
BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be
used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to
corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like
customer relationship management, sales force, and field service
automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for
any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without
limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or
streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices or
host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera
posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine–to–machine
connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute
or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by
way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet,
downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets
is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services
and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is
prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one
hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited
uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a
month.
For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to
protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We
reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and
to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is
using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or
whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using
more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the
service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to
immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We
also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer
Agreement term..."
It's NOT internet service....it's WEBPAGES and EMAIL and your company
intranet O-N-L-Y! NO DOWNLOADING, NO FTP, NO FILE SHARING, NO VOIP, NO
NOTHING!....Webpage spam and email....USELESS!
And, don't be clickin' up any of those webpages with STREAMING on it,
either!.....
Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.
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| alien 2007-05-16, 10:33 pm |
| Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in
news:Xns9932CBC0558A
2noonehomecom@208.49.80.253:
> alien < aliensoul69_is_here@
oo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns99329353A2B1
9aliensoul69ishereyo
c@216.151.153.41:
>
>
> Read it closer:
>
> "UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
> Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess,
> BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY
> be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
> browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to
> corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications
> like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service
> automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for
> any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without
> limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or
> streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices
> or host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web
> camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated
> machine–to–machine connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or
> (iii) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data
> connections. This means, by way of example only, that checking email,
> surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or
> visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies
> using P2P file sharing services and/or redirecting television signals
> for viewing on laptops is prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited
> uses, continuously for one hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs,
> or, if engaged in prohibited uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week,
> could use more than 5 GBs in a month.
>
> For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to
> protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows.
> We reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data
> transferred, and to deny or terminate service, without notice, to
> anyone we believe is using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any
> manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network
> or service levels. Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given
> month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited
> above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service
> of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to
> terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term..."
>
> It's NOT internet service....it's WEBPAGES and EMAIL and your company
> intranet O-N-L-Y! NO DOWNLOADING, NO FTP, NO FILE SHARING, NO VOIP,
> NO NOTHING!....Webpage spam and email....USELESS!
>
> And, don't be clickin' up any of those webpages with STREAMING on it,
> either!.....
>
>
> Larry
yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.
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| Mij Adyaw 2007-05-16, 10:33 pm |
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> yeah I am not going with verizon. I just got off the phone with sprint
> and am going with thier unlimited wireless evdo data plan. Oh well. I
> had the choice of either a $60 2 year pla or the $80 1 year plan. <
> which i picked. I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
> verizon for phone and sprint for evdo data plan for my laptop.
You made a wise choice.
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| Pegleg 2007-05-16, 10:33 pm |
| Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
> You made a wise choice.
Until you find out how lousy their service is!
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| alien < aliensoul69_is_here@
oo.com> wrote in
news:Xns9932D3FA9621
Daliensoul69ishereyo
c@216.151.153.21:
> I have a 30 period in which to cancel risk free.
Load the hell out of Sprint EVDO during this 30 days and see if they cancel
or XXXXX at you. I think they ALL have similar statements in their AUPs,
some just enforced more heavily than others. If they XXXXX, you just dump
'em during your 30 day period. Connect to a big binary usenet server
through it and download movies from alt.binaries.movies.divx. I'm working
on about 42GB tonight and tomorrow....
Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2007-05-17, 4:33 am |
| On Thu, 17 May 2007 05:09:46 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>alien < aliensoul69_is_here@
oo.com> wrote in
> news:Xns9932D3FA9621
Daliensoul69ishereyo
c@216.151.153.21:
>
>
>Load the hell out of Sprint EVDO during this 30 days and see if they cancel
>or XXXXX at you. I think they ALL have similar statements in their AUPs,
>some just enforced more heavily than others. If they XXXXX, you just dump
>'em during your 30 day period. Connect to a big binary usenet server
>through it and download movies from alt.binaries.movies.divx. I'm working
>on about 42GB tonight and tomorrow....
Thief.
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| Mij Adyaw 2007-05-17, 4:33 am |
| "Pegleg" < peglegjones@retiredn
avy.mil> wrote in message
news:mqSdnZKiGYw- UdbbnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d
@comcast.com...
> Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
> Until you find out how lousy their service is!
>
>
No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed in the
clever Verizon Advertisments. Our company has both Verizon and Sprint phones
and has a contract with both companies. In Southern California, Sprint and
Verizon are equal. In other areas throughout the USA they are also quite
equal. It is important to understand that Sprint has some of the best
roaming agreements. If you do not get a Sprint signal, you will roam for
free on Verizon or Alltel. Therefore, you have the best of both worlds and
also true unlimited data.
Also, I have no personal interest in Sprint. I was drinking the Verizon
Kool-aid for the past 10 years (they were Airtouch Cellular at that time). I
was convinced that Sprint was garbage until I was forced to try them because
Verizon does not provide a signal at my home. Sprint has really improved and
with the Nextel acquisition, has added CDMA to most of the existing Nextel
towers.
Do some research and don't swallow the Kool-aid like I did for so many
years. No cell phone provider is the best. They all have their advantages
and disadvantages.
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| George 2007-05-17, 7:33 am |
| Mij Adyaw wrote:
> "Pegleg" < peglegjones@retiredn
avy.mil> wrote in message
> news:mqSdnZKiGYw- UdbbnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d
@comcast.com...
> No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed in the
> clever Verizon Advertisments. Our company has both Verizon and Sprint phones
> and has a contract with both companies. In Southern California, Sprint and
> Verizon are equal. In other areas throughout the USA they are also quite
> equal.
But that wouldn't be my area or the nearby states. I could care less who
the carrier might be I just want good service. If you go into the local
mall here there are always 3 people kept busy in the Verizon kiosk. The
Sprint kiosk usually features someone leaning on the counter waiting for
business.
It is important to understand that Sprint has some of the best
> roaming agreements. If you do not get a Sprint signal, you will roam for
> free on Verizon or Alltel. Therefore, you have the best of both worlds and
> also true unlimited data.
>
> Also, I have no personal interest in Sprint. I was drinking the Verizon
> Kool-aid for the past 10 years (they were Airtouch Cellular at that time). I
> was convinced that Sprint was garbage until I was forced to try them because
> Verizon does not provide a signal at my home. Sprint has really improved and
> with the Nextel acquisition, has added CDMA to most of the existing Nextel
> towers.
>
> Do some research and don't swallow the Kool-aid like I did for so many
> years. No cell phone provider is the best. They all have their advantages
> and disadvantages.
>
>
>
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| On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:31:49 -0700, Pegleg
< peglegjones@retiredn
avy.mil> wrote:
>Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
>Until you find out how lousy their service is!
>
I just came from a 30 day try out at sprint. Yep you will be back.
By the way when you are on hold 45 mins and then find out the 30 days
are not free let the group know will ya. In the plan you will pay %100
of air time at the min rate. You will not get your money back on the
air card untill 2 billing cycles. Approx 90 days when you get it.
Like a free loan to them. It took me only 2 days to return the card.
I drive a semi and from cincinnati to just pittsburg it dropped 3
times and every time took close to 5 miles or 5mins to refind a tower.
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| Pegleg 2007-05-17, 10:33 am |
| On Wed, 16 May 2007 23:33:02 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <mij@SpamBucket.com>
wrote:
>Do some research and don't swallow the Kool-aid like I did for so many
>years. No cell phone provider is the best. They all have their advantages
>and disadvantages.
We have done the research...it consists of extensive routine travel
between Washington State and many points on the east coast between
Delaware, Virginia and Florida and between Washington State, Wyoming and
southern California. Service has always been there. I also use Verizon
to connect my laptop and PPC to the internet on a regular basis.
Have two sons currently with Sprint and they can't wait to leave,,,one
in Seattle, one in San Diego. Dropped calls, billing errors, etc.
I'm very happy with the two lines we have with Verizon!
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| XS11E 2007-05-17, 10:33 am |
| "Mij Adyaw" <mij@SpamBucket.com> wrote:
> No. You are drinking the Verizon Kool-aid that you are being fed
> in the clever Verizon Advertisments.
Hogwash, we're drinking in the customer satisfaction results compiled
by the University of Michigan's National Quality Research Center which
compiles the American Customer Satisfaction Index.
Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest of all.
http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?op...rship
%29
Or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vb358
Next time know what your talking about before opening your mouth and
making a fool of yourself, OK?
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| Dennis Ferguson 2007-05-17, 3:33 pm |
| On 2007-05-17, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
> "Mij Adyaw" <mij@SpamBucket.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hogwash, we're drinking in the customer satisfaction results compiled
> by the University of Michigan's National Quality Research Center which
> compiles the American Customer Satisfaction Index.
>
> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest of all.
I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in particular, or
T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.
Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this better.
Phoning their customer service is often an exercise in frustration. I
lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to Verizon, however, and
I've come to the conclusion that I would have been better off with
a Sprint data plan where I live than the Verizon plan I have now, even
though I don't have trouble with the 5 GB limit.
Dennis Ferguson
| |
|
| Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote:
> On 2007-05-17, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in
> particular, or T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.
Correct, it only shows customer's service experiences.
> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of
> any carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this
> better. Phoning their customer service is often an exercise in
> frustration. I lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to
> Verizon, however, and I've come to the conclusion that I would
> have been better off with a Sprint data plan where I live than the
> Verizon plan I have now, even though I don't have trouble with the
> 5 GB limit.
Any plan with coverage in your area is OK as long as you don't have any
problems that require contacting customer service. Customer service is
the same for any industry, how good/bad it is make absolutely no
difference until you need to use it, only then do people realize
they've made a horrible mistake. If the original poster never needs
Sprint's customer non-service he'll be OK.
Sites such as http://www.theacsi.org/ can only help people who check
such things prior to signing up.
| |
|
| Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
> carrier,
I don't know about that Verizon spent 10+ months trying to figure
out why my bill was screwed up every month .. finally fixed it by
changing my plan.. at least I hope it is fixed .. we will see next month!!
--
Jim
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| Todd Allcock 2007-05-17, 10:33 pm |
| At 17 May 2007 13:40:50 -0500 Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in particular, or
> T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.
It was a Customer Satisfaction survey only.
> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
> carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this better.
According to a Sprint-management friend of mine, between Sprint and Nextel,
they have THOUSANDS of rate plans in the system counting the grandfathered,
obsolete, and regional plans. This makes it difficult and time consuming
for reps to fix incorrect plans and codes. They are hoping to prune it
down to about four hundred this year!
> I
> lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to Verizon, however, and
> I've come to the conclusion that I would have been better off with
> a Sprint data plan where I live than the Verizon plan I have now, even
> though I don't have trouble with the 5 GB limit.
Yeah, but you might want to consider leveraging that limit into leaving
Verizon without an ETF! ;-)
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| clifto 2007-05-18, 4:33 am |
| XS11E wrote:
> Sprint currently enjoys a rating of 61, the LOWEST customer
> satisfaction rating of all carriers, Verizon is 71, the highest of all.
Looking at the subject, I'm compelled to ask where you got numbers about
data-customer satisfaction.
--
It's funny how quickly liberal atheists can develop a belief in hell
when someone they hate dies.
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|
| clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
>
> Looking at the subject, I'm compelled to ask where you got numbers
> about data-customer satisfaction.
You've GOT to be kidding, aren't you? If you'd read the post before
replying you'd have seen the URLs.
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| clifto 2007-05-18, 4:33 am |
| XS11E wrote:
> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You've GOT to be kidding, aren't you? If you'd read the post before
> replying you'd have seen the URLs.
In < Xns99334B4D7C7AFxs11
eyahoocom@69.28.173.184>, XS11E wrote:
> http://www.theacsi.org/index.php?op...rship
%29
> Or: http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vb358
It appears they are scoring "Wireless Telephone Service", not data service
but all service. So, looking at the subject, I'm still compelled to ask
where you got numbers about data-customer satisfaction.
--
It's funny how quickly liberal atheists can develop a belief in hell
when someone they hate dies.
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|
| clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
> XS11E wrote:
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
[color=darkred]
> It appears they are scoring "Wireless Telephone Service", not data
> service but all service. So, looking at the subject, I'm still
> compelled to ask where you got numbers about data-customer
> satisfaction.
I see, you missed the change. The topic is now customer satisfaction,
not data-customer satisfaction. As is typical of Usenet, the subject
was changed, hijacked if you will. See Mij Adyaw's post of Wednesday,
May 16th which is the post to which I replied.
Please try to keep up, OK? ;-)
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| Kevin Weaver 2007-05-18, 4:33 am |
| Is the 5GB limit the same as the Unlimited plan ?
Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
it's very much limited in transfer amount.
"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:slrnf4p8di.7v.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com...
> On 2007-05-17, XS11E <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure that survey says so much about coverage in particular, or
> T-Mobile wouldn't be a close second to Verizon.
>
> Sprint does have the absolutely most screwed up billing system of any
> carrier, and I'm not sure the acquisition of Nextel made this better.
> Phoning their customer service is often an exercise in frustration. I
> lost roaming coverage when I moved from Sprint to Verizon, however, and
> I've come to the conclusion that I would have been better off with
> a Sprint data plan where I live than the Verizon plan I have now, even
> though I don't have trouble with the 5 GB limit.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
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| Frankster 2007-05-18, 7:33 am |
| > Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
> it's very much limited in transfer amount.
Unlimited connected data *time*. Does not count against your voice minutes.
-Frank
| |
| Kevin Weaver 2007-05-18, 10:33 am |
| Never said it did. What I was saying is. Verizon tells everyone that there
"Unlimited" data plan is "Unlimited" Which in fact it is "Limited"
"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
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bnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@gi
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>
> Unlimited connected data *time*. Does not count against your voice
> minutes.
>
> -Frank
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| Frankster 2007-05-18, 10:33 am |
| The data plan is UNLIMITED regarding the TIME you are using data services.
(In contrast to the voice minutes which ARE limited by time)
Remember the dial-up ISP ads? Remember when ISPs used to charge by minutes
on-line? Remember UNLIMITED plans? (no on-line time limit)?
Bottom line... exactly *what* is unlimited is never defined. So... everyone
sees what they want to see in that word. The company and the consumers.
-Frank
"Kevin Weaver" < kevinkeithweaver@sbc
global.net> wrote in message
news:J5h3i.3251$4Y.341@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
> Never said it did. What I was saying is. Verizon tells everyone that there
> "Unlimited" data plan is "Unlimited" Which in fact it is "Limited"
>
>
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
> news:RbidnUxRF59xBND
bnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d@gi
ganews.com...
>
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| clifto 2007-05-18, 12:33 pm |
| XS11E wrote:
> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I see, you missed the change. The topic is now customer satisfaction,
> not data-customer satisfaction. As is typical of Usenet, the subject
> was changed, hijacked if you will. See Mij Adyaw's post of Wednesday,
> May 16th which is the post to which I replied.
>
> Please try to keep up, OK? ;-)
You know Usenet; not everybody catches (and remembers) every article.
But in the meantime, I've already talked one Sprint customer into being
a former customer; he's much happier with T-Mobile, and I don't have
to put up with his dropped calls. Sprint may be good in some areas,
but (at least as of a couple of years ago) they sucked around here.
--
It's funny how quickly liberal atheists can develop a belief in hell
when someone they hate dies.
| |
| clifto 2007-05-18, 12:33 pm |
| Frankster wrote:
>
> Unlimited connected data *time*. Does not count against your voice minutes.
I suppose one can call it unlimited in the sense of "you can call it
'unlimited' all you like and it still won't be unlimited," too.
--
It's funny how quickly liberal atheists can develop a belief in hell
when someone they hate dies.
| |
| XS11E 2007-05-18, 12:33 pm |
| clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
> You know Usenet; not everybody catches (and remembers) every
> article.
I know, I've the same problem trying to use OE at work since I delete
everything when I close a group. I use Xnews and I store nothing and
also delete all headers and messages every time I close it but when I
read an article it takes only one mouse click to bring up the parent
article and ctr U will bring up the entire thread. I've never found
out how to do that in Knode or Pan so I usually don't bother reading
newsgroups when I boot into Linux. To use Linux regularly I'd have to
get Xnews running under Wine, I've hear it's doable.
> But in the meantime, I've already talked one Sprint
> customer into being a former customer; he's much happier with
> T-Mobile, and I don't have to put up with his dropped calls.
I've only been with Verizon for around 7 years, since they were
Airtouch, so I don't have that much experience but so far, dropped
calls = 0. Funny, I've use my phone all over the US and never dropped
a call but I usually keep my calls fairly short, that may be why?
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| Dennis Ferguson 2007-05-18, 3:33 pm |
| On 2007-05-18, Kevin Weaver < kevinkeithweaver@sbc
global.net> wrote:
> Is the 5GB limit the same as the Unlimited plan ?
Yes.
> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
> it's very much limited in transfer amount.
I guess so, but I'd note that the Terms and Conditions I've looked
at for all data plans from all carriers give them sufficient lattitude to
kick you off if you do something they don't like, with what that might
be being at the carrier's discretion. Verizon is just a little more
specific about what they won't like than the others.
It would certainly be fair to say that in practice Verizon's limits are
likely more limited than the (unspecified) limits the other carriers might
want to enforce, since Verizon is the only carrier I've seen reports of
people actually being kicked off of so far.
I suspect Verizon's data service already has some load problems where I
live anyway (the downside of being able to get by with fewer towers at
800 MHz?), so maybe they think it is a good thing their limit is
smaller and well publicized.
Dennis Ferguson
| |
| Dennis Ferguson 2007-05-18, 3:33 pm |
| On 2007-05-17, Todd Allcock < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
> At 17 May 2007 13:40:50 -0500 Dennis Ferguson wrote:
>
> Yeah, but you might want to consider leveraging that limit into leaving
> Verizon without an ETF! ;-)
I'm sort of working on that this month, but I felt a bit guilty about
just hammering it so I'm attempting it with "normal" usage by just leaving
my laptop on the data card as much as possible rather than connecting to
my home network at home and work network at work.
If this doesn't do it I'll need to think about what to do next month.
Dennis Ferguson
| |
| Larry 2007-05-18, 10:33 pm |
| The Ghost of General Lee <ghost@general.lee> wrote in
news:urpn43di7fpc3jr
57a8ln76te7dlj1sj1m@
4ax.com:
> On Thu, 17 May 2007 05:09:46 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thief.
>
>
What the hell are you talking about? He's on Sprint PAYING FOR SERVICE.
How does that make HIM a thief?
Horseshit!@
Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.
| |
| Larry 2007-05-18, 10:33 pm |
| "Kevin Weaver" < kevinkeithweaver@sbc
global.net> wrote in news:kTc3i.789
$C96.363@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net:
> Still have yet to see why Verizon still calls it unlimited, when in fact
> it's very much limited in transfer amount.
>
Whoa, Kevin! Transfer? No file transfers are allowed!....(c;
Verboten.....Ve haf our ways of dealing vit "transfers"....Col. Klink.
Larry
--
Grade School Physics Factoid:
A building cannot freefall into its own footprint without
skilled demolition.
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| > hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone uses verizons 59.99 a month
> data plan for thier home internet. On there site it says 5 gigs a month. I
> am afraid this will not be enough. Does anyone user thier service and go
> over 5 gigs a month? I am a heavy surfer. And add on top of that
> downloading music and a game here and there I would most likely go over 5
> gigs a month. Heck I can suck up 5 gigs a month on dial up. Just needing
> thoughts.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned the average download speed of only
400-600Kbps and upload of ~128Kbps, and very high latency (200ms+ ping
times). Not exactly ideal for a "heavy" surfer. You'd be better off with a
768Kbps DSL connection. If you get EVDO Rev A equipment, you should see an
improvement (double those speeds? half the latency?) but I haven't seen a
decent review of Rev A yet...
-- Paul
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| "Paul" <paule@nospam-mindspring.com> wrote in
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> I'm surprised nobody mentioned the average download speed of only
> 400-600Kbps and upload of ~128Kbps, and very high latency (200ms+ ping
> times). Not exactly ideal for a "heavy" surfer.
I think they do it on purpose to PREVENT heavy users from using it.
Their actual bandwidth is VERY limited and they have to try to maximize
profits reselling the same limited bandwidth over and over and over to as
many suckers as they can schmooze into buying it....in little, shared,
bursts.
Cellular internet just sucks.....and always will with so little RF
spectrum to work with....even after they shove AMPS users off what few
channels it has left....on any bands, it matters not.
It's why they'll never let you watch TV or listen to streams for more
than a few minutes at a time.....There's no place to put it.
Larry
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Bandwidth takes bandwidth they're not licensed to sell.
WiMax has bandwidth....coming soon, I hope.
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| clifto 2007-05-19, 4:33 am |
| XS11E wrote:
> clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know, I've the same problem trying to use OE at work since I delete
> everything when I close a group. I use Xnews and I store nothing and
> also delete all headers and messages every time I close it but when I
> read an article it takes only one mouse click to bring up the parent
> article and ctr U will bring up the entire thread. I've never found
> out how to do that in Knode or Pan so I usually don't bother reading
> newsgroups when I boot into Linux. To use Linux regularly I'd have to
> get Xnews running under Wine, I've hear it's doable.
I use knode regularly, and I can't say I know how to bring up a thread
the way you mention. I never thought to try. But that would be a cool way
to be able to do things. I do know you can change the "filter setting"
to get all threads in their entirety, but I don't know a way to get just
one thread in its entirety.
>
> I've only been with Verizon for around 7 years, since they were
> Airtouch, so I don't have that much experience but so far, dropped
> calls = 0. Funny, I've use my phone all over the US and never dropped
> a call but I usually keep my calls fairly short, that may be why?
I've had nearly no problem with dropped calls on Verizon. The time I did
have some problem with it was when the wife had a LG phone; when we
switched to StarTAC phones we no longer had a problem. It was my friend's
Sprint connection. I can't help believing that they just dropped calls
to make room for other calls; I don't think he and I ever had a single
five-minute conversation (even using my landline) without his phone
dropping the call. I hear Sprint is better in other cities, but in this
area it sure seemed to suck a lot from my vantage point.
--
It's funny how quickly liberal atheists can develop a belief in hell
when someone they hate dies.
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| The Ghost of General Lee 2007-05-19, 10:33 am |
| On Fri, 18 May 2007 22:59:28 +0000, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
>Connect to a big
>
>What the hell are you talking about? He's on Sprint PAYING FOR SERVICE.
>
>How does that make HIM a thief?
>
>Horseshit!@
Who said anything about him? Denial's not just a river in Egypt, ya
know.
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| Paul of Dayton 2007-05-21, 7:33 am |
| I would like to report my recent experiences using Verizon Broadband
teathering my KRZR and laptop while visiting Florida.
I planned to use the Hollywood city wi-fi but the coverage hasn't been very
uniform along the beach. This year I couldn't connect at all. Dial-up thru
the hotel phone didn't stay connected well, either. I called Verizon and
was surfing at "almost" DSL speed in about 2 minutes. There were a few
times I noticed the connection being slow but, for the most part, the speed
was just fine. I did have a very strong EVDO signal there. I was not
downloading huge files, just surfing. The connection never dropped, either.
When my trip was over, I called CS and turned it off. I expect to pay about
$15 for the week I used it which is what I used to spend there in hotel
phone fees when dial-up was all we had.
I don't plan to ditch my DSL at home, it IS a lot faster and a lot less
expensive, but it is nice to know the portable option is there and can be
turned on and off at will.
Just my 2 cents - hope it is interesting.
PoD
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| Frankster 2007-05-21, 10:33 am |
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"Paul of Dayton" <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I would like to report my recent experiences using Verizon Broadband
>teathering my KRZR and laptop while visiting Florida.
>
> I planned to use the Hollywood city wi-fi but the coverage hasn't been
> very uniform along the beach. This year I couldn't connect at all.
> Dial-up thru the hotel phone didn't stay connected well, either. I called
> Verizon and was surfing at "almost" DSL speed in about 2 minutes. There
> were a few times I noticed the connection being slow but, for the most
> part, the speed was just fine. I did have a very strong EVDO signal
> there. I was not downloading huge files, just surfing. The connection
> never dropped, either. When my trip was over, I called CS and turned it
> off. I expect to pay about $15 for the week I used it which is what I
> used to spend there in hotel phone fees when dial-up was all we had.
>
> I don't plan to ditch my DSL at home, it IS a lot faster and a lot less
> expensive, but it is nice to know the portable option is there and can be
> turned on and off at will.
>
> Just my 2 cents - hope it is interesting.
>
> PoD
>
>
>
Could you please expand on the "expected" $15 fee? Pay per KB? Other plan?
What did VZW offer for this temporary add-on?
-Frank
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| Pegleg 2007-05-21, 10:33 am |
| On Mon, 21 May 2007 08:23:04 -0400, "Paul of Dayton"
<plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
> I called Verizon and
>was surfing at "almost" DSL speed in about 2 minutes. There were a few
>times I noticed the connection being slow but, for the most part, the speed
>was just fine. I did have a very strong EVDO signal there. I was not
>downloading huge files, just surfing. The connection never dropped, either.
>When my trip was over, I called CS and turned it off. I expect to pay about
>$15 for the week I used it
So how did you activate it...i.e. under what data plan option?
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| Peter Pan 2007-05-21, 12:33 pm |
| Frankster wrote:
> "Paul of Dayton" <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Sag4i.1421$C96.699@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
>
> Could you please expand on the "expected" $15 fee? Pay per KB? Other
> plan? What did VZW offer for this temporary add-on?
>
> -Frank
Can't say for his situation, but I had verizon home phone and DSL service
and cellular (one bill), and it was part of the support to access the
internet when travelling (and as a backup if your DSL line dies)..
Unfortunately, I went to FIOS (Fiber Optic) and they don't offer that
feature with FIOS :(
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| Pegleg 2007-05-21, 12:33 pm |
| On Mon, 21 May 2007 12:20:27 -0400, "Peter Pan"
< PeterPanNOSPAM@Akama
ilNOSPAM.com> wrote:
>Can't say for his situation, but I had verizon home phone and DSL service
>and cellular (one bill), and it was part of the support to access the
>internet when travelling (and as a backup if your DSL line dies)..
>Unfortunately, I went to FIOS (Fiber Optic) and they don't offer that
>feature with FIOS :(
How has your FIOS service been and what part of the country are you in?
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| Peter Pan 2007-05-21, 10:33 pm |
| Pegleg wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2007 12:20:27 -0400, "Peter Pan"
> < PeterPanNOSPAM@Akama
ilNOSPAM.com> wrote:
>
>
> How has your FIOS service been and what part of the country are you
> in?
Baltimore MD area (actually ellicott city, a bit SW), comcast was okay, but
IMO fios is better, and both the uploads and downloads are way way way
faster than comcast was (20 Mb down, 2 Mb up, handy since I have multiple
websites/blogs and upload stuff (pictures and text), plus backup my system
to online file storage...) When they installed the FIOS box, I already had
wire/coax/wireless in the house, so I just attached to that. Since we live
next to Patapsco state park, we lose power, cable and phone all the time
from trees falling and critters eating the wires, FIOS is underground and
the power for it comes from that also, so even if we lose power, we still
have voice, TV signal, and high speed internet... FWIW, I'm a happy camper
with the switch... Only bummer is no dial-up backup (and no cell phone
connection, as a backup anymore)
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| Pegleg 2007-05-21, 10:33 pm |
| On Mon, 21 May 2007 18:33:19 -0400, "Peter Pan"
< PeterPanNOSPAM@Akama
ilNOSPAM.com> wrote:
>Baltimore MD area (actually ellicott city, a bit SW), comcast was okay, but
>IMO fios is better, and both the uploads and downloads are way way way
>faster than comcast was (20 Mb down, 2 Mb up, handy since I have multiple
>websites/blogs and upload stuff (pictures and text), plus backup my system
>to online file storage...) When they installed the FIOS box, I already had
>wire/coax/wireless in the house, so I just attached to that. Since we live
>next to Patapsco state park, we lose power, cable and phone all the time
>from trees falling and critters eating the wires, FIOS is underground and
>the power for it comes from that also, so even if we lose power, we still
>have voice, TV signal, and high speed internet... FWIW, I'm a happy camper
>with the switch... Only bummer is no dial-up backup (and no cell phone
>connection, as a backup anymore)
Sounds nice! Why no cell phone? What are you doing for phone service?
Is that through FIOS also?
We are in the process of installing a cell antenna so we can drop our
landline.
FIOS isn't offered here yet and will probably be some time before it is.
We're in a rural area about 10 miles from the US/Canada border in NW
Washington state.
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| Peter Pan 2007-05-21, 10:33 pm |
| Pegleg wrote:
>
> Sounds nice! Why no cell phone? What are you doing for phone
> service? Is that through FIOS also?
>
> We are in the process of installing a cell antenna so we can drop our
> landline.
>
> FIOS isn't offered here yet and will probably be some time before it
> is. We're in a rural area about 10 miles from the US/Canada border in
> NW Washington state.
Interesting.. I used to own a place in Rathdrum Idaho (NW Idaho, way out in
the sticks, no cable/no DSL, about 90 miles to the border), before I sold it
and moved here about a year ago.. Had a Direcway sat system, both wired and
wireless networks, and used a tethered cell at 1x speeds for backup...
Didn't even bother with a land line, did have a cell phone there, (actually
both a cell with a local number and a local charge card - couldn't order
pizza for delivery with out of state stuff! :) and a whole house repeater
from http://www.cellantenna.com/ (directional yagi on the metal snow roof
pointed at a less than 20 mile away cell tower, and an omnidirectional
inside CAE50 http://www.cellantenna.com/repeater/cae50cel.htm). There was no
normal cell phone service in the area, and the neighbors used to come by and
hang in my driveway to use their phones with my repeater (could handle 10
calls at a time, worked for both voice and data)
Switched to skynet of spokane (high speed 802.11b 200+ sq miles of coverage
area, repeaters on mountains in the area)... Not sure where exactly you are,
but here's a link to the wireless coverage map of washington state
http://www.onelasvegas.com/wireless/WA.html (for other states, backspace and
take out the WA.html part)
As for here (in md), yes the phone service is also thru fios (triple thing,
phone (w free LD, probably VOIP), tv and internet)... As for tethering, I
can still tether and use the 1x speed with no plan (handy when traveling
with my laptop)
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| Paul of Dayton 2007-05-21, 10:33 pm |
| You can turn the "Unlimited Broadband" $59.95 service on and off whenever
you want. When it's on, access time doesn't count. I used the heck out of
it. When you turn it off, the billing is adjusted and you only pay for what
you used. I figure if a month is $60, a week is $15. The CSR confirmed I
would only pay for the time the service was activated.
PoD
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> "Paul of Dayton" <plus1111@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Could you please expand on the "expected" $15 fee? Pay per KB? Other plan?
> What did VZW offer for this temporary add-on?
>
> -Frank
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