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Civilized rich? (Was: Apple plans cheaper, Nano-based phone)
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| Thomas R. Kettler 2007-07-11, 3:33 pm |
| In article <a-135706.11295611072007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net>,
none <a@b.com> wrote:
> Notan < notan@ddressthatcanb
espammed> wrote:
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> incorrect, i'm being truthful. try it sometime. or MOVE to a more
> civilized location.
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> no kid "steals" in an affluent area, come on, get real....
I seriously doubt that. Many brats will shoplift as a matter of passage
or initiation. However, in rich areas, what would likely happen is that
the parents would just agree to pay for whatever was stolen and keep it
out of the papers.
Have you forgotten about Winona Ryder?
Similarly, Leopold and Loeb were children of the elite in Chicago when
they killed Bobby Franks in the 1930's for the thrill of it.
None, you really need to spend time in areas such as post-Katrina Gulf
Coast. You are really immature and need to learn how other people live
who must work to support their children by putting food on the table and
a roof over their heads. After all, spoiled rich brats like Paris
Hilton, Nicole Richie, Lindsay Lohan, etc. are far less civilized than
the people who are paid to cook their food and make their beds.
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| George Graves 2007-07-11, 3:33 pm |
| On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:52:39 -0700, Thomas R. Kettler wrote
(in article <tkettler-C4E6D7.13523411072007@news.fuse.net> ):
> In article <a-135706.11295611072007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net>,
> none <a@b.com> wrote:
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> I seriously doubt that. Many brats will shoplift as a matter of passage
> or initiation. However, in rich areas, what would likely happen is that
> the parents would just agree to pay for whatever was stolen and keep it
> out of the papers.
>
> Have you forgotten about Winona Ryder?
>
> Similarly, Leopold and Loeb were children of the elite in Chicago when
> they killed Bobby Franks in the 1930's for the thrill of it.
Bad example. The previous poster was talking about economic crime. The murder
of Bobby Franks was an act of two homosexual psychopaths. Their type of
privilege and wealth does not preclude mental illness.
>
> None, you really need to spend time in areas such as post-Katrina Gulf
> Coast. You are really immature and need to learn how other people live
> who must work to support their children by putting food on the table and
> a roof over their heads. After all, spoiled rich brats like Paris
> Hilton, Nicole Richie, Lindsay Lohan, etc. are far less civilized than
> the people who are paid to cook their food and make their beds.
Wealth has it's privileges, as they say, but brains or education aren't among
them. While rich people have access to the best schools and the finest
educational materials, its no guarantee that they can or will use them. Look
at Paris Hilton. A woman so dumb that she'd have to take classes in sex and
would still get it wrong.
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| "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:
> None, you really need to spend time in areas such as post-Katrina Gulf
> Coast. You are really immature and need to learn how other people live
> who must work to support their children by putting food on the table and
> a roof over their heads. After all, spoiled rich brats like Paris
> Hilton, Nicole Richie, Lindsay Lohan, etc. are far less civilized than
> the people who are paid to cook their food and make their beds.
listen thomas, you create your own reality... and for me, i do not
choose to live in scummy areas like the katrina gulf coast. if it were
up to me, i'd bulldoze everything 150 miles in from the coast, make it a
national park and be done with. trying to rebuild america's worst
societal wort, is non-productive and unhealthy for everyone.
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| Thomas R. Kettler 2007-07-12, 4:33 am |
| In article <a-07A1AB.20552011072007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net>,
none <a@b.com> wrote:
> "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:
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> listen thomas, you create your own reality... and for me, i do not
> choose to live in scummy areas like the katrina gulf coast. if it were
> up to me, i'd bulldoze everything 150 miles in from the coast, make it a
> national park and be done with. trying to rebuild america's worst
> societal wort, is non-productive and unhealthy for everyone.
I'm not surprised by your response. Your comments have demonstrated that
you have little concern for those who do not have the same privileges
that you have. One can only hope that sometime you'll be willing to walk
a mile in someone else's shoes but I personally doubt it. Of course,
sponsoring someone with Christian Children's Fund would be a start.
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| The Natural Philosopher 2007-07-12, 4:33 am |
| none wrote:
> "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:
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> listen thomas, you create your own reality... and for me, i do not
> choose to live in scummy areas like the katrina gulf coast. if it were
> up to me, i'd bulldoze everything 150 miles in from the coast, make it a
> national park and be done with. trying to rebuild america's worst
> societal wort, is non-productive and unhealthy for everyone.
How "Victorian", to be sure...
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| The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote in
news:1184214179.8935.4@proxy01.news.clara.net:
> none wrote:
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> How "Victorian", to be sure...
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Naw- I got something more along the lines of a 21st century "All in the
Family" out of it...Archie lives.
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| IMHO IIRC 2007-07-12, 4:33 am |
| In news:a-07A1AB.20552011072007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net,
none <a@b.com> typed:
> "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> wrote:
>
>
> listen thomas, you create your own reality... and for me, i do not
> choose to live in scummy areas like the katrina gulf coast. if it were
> up to me, i'd bulldoze everything 150 miles in from the coast, make it a
> national park and be done with. trying to rebuild america's worst
> societal wort, is non-productive and unhealthy for everyone.
The Gulf Coast is actually littered wth multi-million dollar mansions.
Ocean beach property is some of the most expensive in the country.
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| ultimauw@hotmail.com 2007-07-12, 3:33 pm |
| On Jul 11, 7:55 pm, none <a...@b.com> wrote:
> "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkett...@blownfuse.net> wrote:
>
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> listen thomas, you create your own reality... and for me, i do not
> choose to live in scummy areas like the katrina gulf coast. if it were
> up to me, i'd bulldoze everything 150 miles in from the coast, make it a
> national park and be done with. trying to rebuild america's worst
> societal wort, is non-productive and unhealthy for everyone.
Thanks for reminding us why we need to fight the elite and not let
them get away with the shit
they are pulling. Additudes like this are the reason why the elite is
so hated among decent people.
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| ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:
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> Thanks for reminding us why we need to fight the elite and not let
> them get away with the shit
> they are pulling. Additudes like this are the reason why the elite is
> so hated among decent people.
i didn't sense any "elite" talk in my post, it was all about being
rational with "money". That area has NEVER BEEN FIT to live in, for
1000's of years, it's a freaking swamp! so why should tax payers rebuild
in an area that even the Indians avoided?
Think before you post, thanks!
You must be from the south? is that the problem?
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| The Natural Philosopher 2007-07-12, 10:33 pm |
| none wrote:
> ultimauw@hotmail.com wrote:
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> i didn't sense any "elite" talk in my post, it was all about being
> rational with "money". That area has NEVER BEEN FIT to live in, for
> 1000's of years, it's a freaking swamp! so why should tax payers rebuild
> in an area that even the Indians avoided?
>
Obviously to shove the XXXXing niggers in, to rot?
I would have thought that you, of all people, would have got that one
worked out...;-)
> Think before you post, thanks!
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> You must be from the south? is that the problem?
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| In article <1184281389.6612.7@iris.uk.clara.net>,
The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
> none wrote:
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> Obviously to shove the XXXXing niggers in, to rot?
>
He says as the banjo music from "Deliverance" plays in the background.
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| SpaceMarine 2007-07-18, 3:33 pm |
| On Jul 12, 2:19 pm, none <a...@b.com> wrote:
> rational with "money". That area has NEVER BEEN FIT to live in, for
> 1000's of years, it's a freaking swamp!
so was washington DC. you know, our capital. drained swamp.
> so why should tax payers rebuild
because the area of devastation you are probably referring to (new
orleans) was under protection from federal levees, in flood zones
protected by federal ratings (based on the federal levees). thus, when
all those people lost their homes, theyre owed their personal money
back from the federal coffers.
sucks, but blame the corps of engineers, circa the 60s. their levees
had fundamental design flaws making them unfit for flood protection.
> Think before you post, thanks!
yeah.
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| aemeijers 2007-07-18, 10:33 pm |
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"SpaceMarine" < spacemarine@mailinat
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> On Jul 12, 2:19 pm, none <a...@b.com> wrote:
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> so was washington DC. you know, our capital. drained swamp.
>
>
> because the area of devastation you are probably referring to (new
> orleans) was under protection from federal levees, in flood zones
> protected by federal ratings (based on the federal levees). thus, when
> all those people lost their homes, theyre owed their personal money
> back from the federal coffers.
>
> sucks, but blame the corps of engineers, circa the 60s. their levees
> had fundamental design flaws making them unfit for flood protection.
>
Learn your history- most of the destroyed neighborhoods predate the modern
levees. Only a fool builds below sea level in a port city. As a humanitarian
gesture, sure, help the displaced people get a start elsewhere. (Maybe a
'New' New Orleans, on the higher ground at the northern end of the
causeway?)But it isn't anything OWED to them. And for damn sure don't repeat
the Florida and east coast foolishness of giving federally guaranteed loans
and insurance to million-dollar structures built on sandbars. It isn't a
question of IF they will fall down, only WHEN. The levees were not the
problem- destroying the natural buffers of the wetlands all along the
southern edge of LA is the problem. Unless they figure out a way to restore
the wetlands (probably a non-starter due to no money, and lack of
knowledge), Nawlins WILL flood again at some point. Might be 100 years,
might be next year. I don't think the Corps knows how to build levees that
can handle a cat 4 or 5, at least not that the country will pay for. US News
magazine, almost a year before the hurricanes, had a 'what if' sidebar
article that nailed the sequence of events almost exactly. The city and the
state gov knew the risk exposure well ahead of time, and sat on their fat
corrupt asses. (You mean to tell me they couldn't find anyone to drive all
those school busses from that famous photo, out to the evac points BEFORE
the rain started and they got drowned and ruined?)
And yes, I do have a dog in this fight. I own property about 4 hours west of
NO, and if Rita had tracked a degree or two different, I likely would have
lost it. As it is, almost 2 years later, Lake Charles is still in recovery
mode. Would I expect the feds to replace it all for me? Hell, no. Insurance
would cover some, but the rest would fall under Life Is Hard.
By the way, why the new nickname? You piss off enough people with your
recent threads that you were stuck in too many kill files?
aem sends...
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| aemeijers <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:
> "SpaceMarine" < spacemarine@mailinat
or.com> wrote in message
> news:1184786484.130921.302830@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
[color=darkred]
> Learn your history- most of the destroyed neighborhoods predate the
> modern levees. Only a fool builds below sea level in a port city. As
> a humanitarian gesture, sure, help the displaced people get a start
> elsewhere. (Maybe a 'New' New Orleans, on the higher ground at the
> northern end of the causeway?)But it isn't anything OWED to them. And
> for damn sure don't repeat the Florida and east coast foolishness of
> giving federally guaranteed loans and insurance to million-dollar
> structures built on sandbars. It isn't a question of IF they will
> fall down, only WHEN. The levees were not the problem- destroying the
> natural buffers of the wetlands all along the southern edge of LA is
> the problem. Unless they figure out a way to restore the wetlands
> (probably a non-starter due to no money, and lack of knowledge),
> Nawlins WILL flood again at some point. Might be 100 years, might be
> next year.
> I don't think the Corps knows how to build levees that can handle a cat 4 or 5,
All they have to do is ask the Dutch. Not a shred of rocket science required.
> at least not that the country will pay for. US
> News magazine, almost a year before the hurricanes, had a 'what if'
> sidebar article that nailed the sequence of events almost exactly.
> The city and the state gov knew the risk exposure well ahead of time,
> and sat on their fat corrupt asses. (You mean to tell me they
> couldn't find anyone to drive all those school busses from that
> famous photo, out to the evac points BEFORE the rain started and they
> got drowned and ruined?)
> And yes, I do have a dog in this fight. I own property about 4 hours
> west of NO, and if Rita had tracked a degree or two different, I
> likely would have lost it. As it is, almost 2 years later, Lake
> Charles is still in recovery mode. Would I expect the feds to replace
> it all for me? Hell, no. Insurance would cover some, but the rest
> would fall under Life Is Hard.
> By the way, why the new nickname? You piss off enough people with your
> recent threads that you were stuck in too many kill files?
>
> aem sends...
That should be aem shits...
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| Don Klipstein 2007-07-18, 10:33 pm |
| In < 469e9b04$0$12825$5a6
2ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au>, dfr said:
Enough to add this "dfr" to at least most or many killfiles that have
had some reasonable success against the usual-incarnation of this
sub-troll.
Other than that, anyone know about any content-based killfiling? So
far in my experience, this sub-troll has favored phrases and favored
misspelings sufficient for a content-based filter to catch most of the
offender's subtroll offenses that the subtroll has spewed so far!
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
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| Kurt Ullman 2007-07-18, 10:33 pm |
| In article <aywni.175503$Sa4.73328@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:
> corrupt asses. (You mean to tell me they couldn't find anyone to drive all
> those school busses from that famous photo, out to the evac points BEFORE
> the rain started and they got drowned and ruined?)
>
The main problems with New Orleans disaster plan in Katrina was that
they followed it to the letter.
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| aemeijers 2007-07-18, 10:33 pm |
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"Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <aywni.175503$Sa4.73328@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:
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> The main problems with New Orleans disaster plan in Katrina was that
> they followed it to the letter.
Truer than you know. A basic military principle- battle plans never survive
contact with the enemy. COOP/disaster plans, be it for a company, a city, or
a state, or a region need to be structured on the same lines. You HAVE to
build in flexibility, for them to have a chance of working at all. Give me
an experienced field guy over an office bureaucrat any day.
aem sends...
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| Kurt Ullman 2007-07-19, 7:33 am |
| In article
<yBAni.332203$p47.219765@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"aemeijers" <aemeijers@att.net> wrote:
> "Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:kurtullman-51A157. 22025118072007@custo
mer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx..
> .
> Truer than you know. A basic military principle- battle plans never survive
> contact with the enemy. COOP/disaster plans, be it for a company, a city, or
> a state, or a region need to be structured on the same lines. You HAVE to
> build in flexibility, for them to have a chance of working at all. Give me
> an experienced field guy over an office bureaucrat any day.
>
> aem sends...
I know for sure. I read that sucker in its entirety. It specifically
said that those who couldn't get out of town were to go to the
Superdome. It also specifically said that the 'Dome was to be used only
to ride out the storm and then people would be evacuated so their was no
need to supply it.
Someone said after 9/11 that it was essentially a failure of
imagination, in that nobody could imagine that could happen. Same with
NOLA. Multiple generations of emergency planners at local and state and
federal levels failed to imagine the possibility of not being able to
get people out of the 'Dome immediately.
And don't EVEN get me started on Command Center Tunnel Vision
(g).
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