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| Pegleg 2007-08-07, 12:33 pm |
| I realize this is a rhetorical question but....why does Verizon have
such crappy phones??????????????????????????????????
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| George 2007-08-07, 12:33 pm |
| Pegleg wrote:
> I realize this is a rhetorical question but....why does Verizon have
> such crappy phones??????????????????????????????????
Mine seem to make and receive calls OK. What problem are you having?
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| Esmail 2007-08-07, 12:33 pm |
| George wrote:
> Pegleg wrote:
>
> Mine seem to make and receive calls OK. What problem are you having?
ditto here.
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| George wrote:
> Pegleg wrote:
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> Mine seem to make and receive calls OK. What problem are you having?
Being presumtuous enough to try and speak for him, I think he's
(over)stating his disappointment in that Verizon (of which I am a customer)
seems to often be behind in offering new and unique cell phone technology,
I myself have written to Verizon and have 'complained' about this.
An older example is the Motorola Razr, a phone which was introduced to the
public a full two years or more before it was made available to verizon. And
then, when the other providers were offering the Razr as a free phone,
Verizon was charging $300 with a contract.
You can see the same thing happening right now. T-Mobile, for example, has
the unique, compact, consumer-friendly Blackberry Pearl. The best Verizon
could do was come up with the much more business oriented Blackberry 8830.
T-Mobile got the iPhone. Verizon didn't. I believe there are other examples.
So, yes, from a purely practical viewpoint, VZ's phones work. But some of us
are into the latest technology, and/or the latest craze. For us, VZ
consistently disappoints.
If Pegleg meant something else, well, then mark me down as having spoken for
myself! :-)
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"Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
>I realize this is a rhetorical question but....why does Verizon have
> such crappy phones??????????????????????????????????
Why do you molest children?
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| Steve Sobol 2007-08-07, 3:33 pm |
| On 2007-08-07, Carl < crothman@NOSPAMopton
line.net> wrote:
> An older example is the Motorola Razr, a phone which was introduced to the
> public a full two years or more before it was made available to verizon. And
> then, when the other providers were offering the Razr as a free phone,
> Verizon was charging $300 with a contract.
It's not VZW's fault they couldn't get the RAZR, for which Cingular was under
exclusive contract with Motorola for a couple years. It IS stupid that they
were charging $300 with a contract when they finally got it.
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| John B. Coarsey, PE 2007-08-07, 3:33 pm |
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"LHA" <nobody@nobody1.com1> wrote in message
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> "Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
>
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> Why do you molest children?
>
Pegleg is a longtime poster that has contributed much to this group in the
past. You owe him an apology.
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| Dennis Ferguson 2007-08-07, 3:33 pm |
| On 2007-08-07, Carl < crothman@NOSPAMopton
line.net> wrote:
> George wrote:
[...][color=darkred]
> You can see the same thing happening right now. T-Mobile, for example, has
> the unique, compact, consumer-friendly Blackberry Pearl. The best Verizon
> could do was come up with the much more business oriented Blackberry 8830.
> T-Mobile got the iPhone. Verizon didn't. I believe there are other examples.
>
> So, yes, from a purely practical viewpoint, VZ's phones work. But some of us
> are into the latest technology, and/or the latest craze. For us, VZ
> consistently disappoints.
All of this makes perfect sense. Mobile phone manufacturers build for
a global market in which the US is, if anything, a shrinking fraction
due to things like European currency strength and the size and growth
rate of Asian countries. On a world-wide basis GSM/UMTS handsets
outsell CDMA2000 handsets by a huge margin, so a lot of manufacturers'
R&D is spent serving the bigger market first. Worse, while you can
often sell a single GSM hardware platform worldwide, providing localization
support in software only, CDMA2000 hardware often needs to be specialized
to the North American market (for example, Asian CDMA phones often
support different frequency bands than the US, and almost always have
SIM cards; they need to change this to sell in North America). Since
GSM/UMTS phones don't need to be bought from an operator, a really
innovative model can sell itself even if operators don't initially
pick it up; with Verizon you can only use the phones Verizon thinks
are a good idea, or can sell at a good margin. The fact that there's
essentially a single source for the basic technology used by CDMA
phones (and that single source is having patent problems in the US
at that) doesn't help either.
Essentially, selling CDMA phones through Verizon is a niche market. The
vendors that play it in may make money, but are better off directing
their best R&D efforts at the bigger market with a potentially bigger
payoff. It is kind of too bad since CDMA2000 really does seem to me to
be better technology (as can maybe be seen in the number of niches it
is found in worldwide despite the dominance of GSM). There just isn't
enough of it to keep it at the leading edge of handset technology.
Dennis Ferguson
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| Slacker 2007-08-07, 10:33 pm |
| "Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
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>I realize this is a rhetorical question but....why does Verizon have
> such crappy phones??????????????????????????????????
Many of the phones start out feature rich in the manufacturer's warehouse--
but VZW specifies that they cripple many of the advanced features built into
the phone. This approach forces you to use VZW's software/systems instead.
That way, they can charge you for it.
It's one approach to revenue generation-- driven by accounting and marketing
suits who really don't know anything about customer psychology. Others call
it milking/screwing the customer. Customers who like you and feel good about
you will eventually spend more with you-- not to mention talking you up to
their friends. That's another approach to marketing and company strategy.
Look at the tone of the comments about VZW in this NG. Other than
recognizing that they have about the best network in the industry, you don't
read much good about them here....
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| Dennis Ferguson wrote:
> On 2007-08-07, Carl < crothman@NOSPAMopton
line.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> All of this makes perfect sense. Mobile phone manufacturers build for
> a global market in which the US is, if anything, a shrinking fraction
> due to things like European currency strength and the size and growth
> rate of Asian countries. On a world-wide basis GSM/UMTS handsets
> outsell CDMA2000 handsets by a huge margin, so a lot of manufacturers'
> R&D is spent serving the bigger market first. Worse, while you can
> often sell a single GSM hardware platform worldwide, providing
> localization support in software only, CDMA2000 hardware often needs
> to be specialized to the North American market (for example, Asian
> CDMA phones often
> support different frequency bands than the US, and almost always have
> SIM cards; they need to change this to sell in North America). Since
> GSM/UMTS phones don't need to be bought from an operator, a really
> innovative model can sell itself even if operators don't initially
> pick it up; with Verizon you can only use the phones Verizon thinks
> are a good idea, or can sell at a good margin. The fact that there's
> essentially a single source for the basic technology used by CDMA
> phones (and that single source is having patent problems in the US
> at that) doesn't help either.
>
> Essentially, selling CDMA phones through Verizon is a niche market.
> The vendors that play it in may make money, but are better off
> directing
> their best R&D efforts at the bigger market with a potentially bigger
> payoff. It is kind of too bad since CDMA2000 really does seem to me
> to
> be better technology (as can maybe be seen in the number of niches it
> is found in worldwide despite the dominance of GSM). There just isn't
> enough of it to keep it at the leading edge of handset technology.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
I sort of knew much of this (though not in the excellent detail you've
provided). However, I believe that a company with the reach and power of
Verizon can certainly get phones of its choice made for itself and that they
are just looking out for their own bottom line. For example, I am aware
that Verizon had the first crack at iPhone but wouldn't deal with Apple's
demand for control (not that I necessarily blame them for that).
But, if my info is accurate, it does imply that what is now a GSM phone
could just as easily have been a CDMA phone which might blow your market
forces theory out of the water.
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"John B. Coarsey, PE @yahoo.com>" <jcoarsey<nospam> wrote in message
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> "LHA" <nobody@nobody1.com1> wrote in message
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> Pegleg is a longtime poster that has contributed much to this group in the
> past. You owe him an apology.
Okay, sorry, I thought he was a troll. You know.. just coming in here to
start an argument.
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| On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:23:25 -0700, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil>
wrote:
>I realize this is a rhetorical question but....why does Verizon have
>such crappy phones??????????????????????????????????
The phones are not shit to start with. But they are after verizon has
the manufacturer cripple all the good features.
And point 3 of the 4 nav buttons to things that verizon can use to
suck more money out of you.
It's not the phone, it's verizon.
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| On Aug 8, 9:30 am, =AE <No...@home.now> wrote:
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:23:25 -0700, Pegleg <Peg...@usnavyret.mil>
> wrote:
>
>
> The phones are not shit to start with. But they are after verizon has
> the manufacturer cripple all the good features.
>
> And point 3 of the 4 nav buttons to things that verizon can use to
> suck more money out of you.
>
> It's not the phone, it's verizon.
Interestingly, except for some of the BT features, my Verizon E815 was
neither crippled nor crappy. And I just remapped the nav/D-pad buttons
to the stuff I use most often. This was a phone purchased two years
ago.
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| Jeb wrote:
> Interestingly, except for some of the BT features, my Verizon E815 was
> neither crippled nor crappy. And I just remapped the nav/D-pad buttons
> to the stuff I use most often. This was a phone purchased two years
> ago.
Hi Jeb
Same here! The only time I got a dropped call was once when I was in a
building and since I travel a lot I consider that an excellent record.
Fact is next month I am eligible for a new phone I will keep the E815.
Not sure about Verizon though as I am a low use customer and blowing
$50 per month for a phone that I hardly use seems a waste. But as far
as the phone and the company I have had nothing but good service.
Lee
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| Larry 2007-08-08, 12:33 pm |
| Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ukkui.9567$Ug2.2814
@bignews4.bellsouth.net:
> Jeb wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jeb
>
> Same here! The only time I got a dropped call was once when I was in a
> building and since I travel a lot I consider that an excellent record.
> Fact is next month I am eligible for a new phone I will keep the E815.
> Not sure about Verizon though as I am a low use customer and blowing
> $50 per month for a phone that I hardly use seems a waste. But as far
> as the phone and the company I have had nothing but good service.
>
> Lee
>
>
Assuming you have not hacked into your E815s, can I ask you two if you
can put an MP3 file onto a micro SD from your computer, plug it into your
Verizon E815, move that MP3 file to internal memory, then assign that MP3
file as the basic ringtone without hacking or modifying it?
Is "Copy" and "Move" present on your Pictures and Video and Sounds menus
so you can copy or move pictures/videos/sound files between internal
memory and the micro SD card to get them off the phone onto something the
computer can read?
Go to Sounds Menu, pick "Switch Storage Devices" and pick PHONE to the
internal memory. Point to one of the simple MP3 files on internal
memory. Click the center Menu button. Is "Apply As Ringtone" present on
the menu list on the Sounds Menu? Copy? Move?
Turn on the still camera. Point at something and click "Capture". Click
Store to get the Store Options up. Is "Store Only" to the current
storage device on that menu?
A friend of mine has the same E815 I bought from Alltel, but his is on
Verizon. He's missing these local options and I'm told there is a hack
to restore them, but not sure how to do it. All these features are
enabled on the Alltel E815 firmware, by default. I take too many quicky
pictures with it to pay a cell company to send them to me.
Too bad it only supports 1GB microSD cards, not 2GB. I suppose 2GB
microSD cards weren't available when E815 was produced. You're right
about the phone. I replaced the shortened antenna with a full half-wave
800 Mhz that fits right in the same screwin mount to increase its
portable range in the country. That works great. I also pulled the
rubber plug out of the back of it and bought the TNC adapter cable from
Alltel so I can connect my cellantenna DA4000 to it with a 9db magmount
or the 11 element beam to it way out in the boonies where I need to call
my suppliers in my business. The amps have sure gotten cheap, lately.
http://cellantenna.com/Boosters/ ce...br />
sters.htm
Larry
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| On Aug 8, 1:06 pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> Lee <lbray5...@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ukkui.9567$Ug2.2814
> @bignews4.bellsouth.net:
> Assuming you have not hacked into your E815s, can I ask you two if you
> can put an MP3 file onto a micro SD from your computer, plug it into your
> Verizon E815, move that MP3 file to internal memory, then assign that MP3
> file as the basic ringtone without hacking or modifying it?
I did just that without hacking or modifying it. All I did was attach
it to a spoofed MMS and saved it after the send failed. Took five
minutes, didn't require any particular skill.
> Is "Copy" and "Move" present on your Pictures and Video and Sounds menus
> so you can copy or move pictures/videos/sound files between internal
> memory and the micro SD card to get them off the phone onto something the
> computer can read?
For pictures and video, yes. And I can move a sound off my internal
memory to my micro SD card.
> Go to Sounds Menu, pick "Switch Storage Devices" and pick PHONE to the
> internal memory. Point to one of the simple MP3 files on internal
> memory. Click the center Menu button. Is "Apply As Ringtone" present on
> the menu list on the Sounds Menu? Copy? Move?
Move is. And yes, I can use any MP3 on internal memory as a ringtone.
> Turn on the still camera. Point at something and click "Capture". Click
> Store to get the Store Options up. Is "Store Only" to the current
> storage device on that menu?
Yes.
> A friend of mine has the same E815 I bought from Alltel, but his is on
> Verizon. He's missing these local options and I'm told there is a hack
> to restore them, but not sure how to do it. All these features are
> enabled on the Alltel E815 firmware, by default. I take too many quicky
> pictures with it to pay a cell company to send them to me.
*shrug* Like I said, I got my phone from Verizon a couple of years
ago. The only hack I've done is to turn off EV-DO, which nicely
extended my regular battery life. The only problem I have is since it
got wet a few weeks back, it doesn't want to turn off (it shuts down
but immediately restarts), but that's pretty low on the scope of "oh
crap, my phone's not working" issues.
> Too bad it only supports 1GB microSD cards, not 2GB. I suppose 2GB
> microSD cards weren't available when E815 was produced.
It's not a great music phone, but it's passable. I only have a 128MB
card in it, but that's enough for what I need. Still, I'll replace
mine with either an enV (yeah, I text, and the QWERTY is better for
calendar and appointment management) or the VX8550 Chocolate (love the
form factor).
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| Jeb wrote:
> I did just that without hacking or modifying it. All I did was attach
> it to a spoofed MMS and saved it after the send failed. Took five
> minutes, didn't require any particular skill.
And MMS is????? tried and could not move it from my card to the phone
but I am missing the step to send via MMS and I do not know what that
is and what spoofed number? like 000 123 456 ? Thanks
Lee
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| stevev 2007-08-08, 10:33 pm |
|
"Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:slrnfbhk9q.8k.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com...
> On 2007-08-07, Carl < crothman@NOSPAMopton
line.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> All of this makes perfect sense. Mobile phone manufacturers build for
> a global market in which the US is, if anything, a shrinking fraction
> due to things like European currency strength and the size and growth
> rate of Asian countries. On a world-wide basis GSM/UMTS handsets
> outsell CDMA2000 handsets by a huge margin, so a lot of manufacturers'
> R&D is spent serving the bigger market first. Worse, while you can
> often sell a single GSM hardware platform worldwide, providing
> localization
> support in software only, CDMA2000 hardware often needs to be specialized
> to the North American market (for example, Asian CDMA phones often
> support different frequency bands than the US, and almost always have
> SIM cards; they need to change this to sell in North America). Since
> GSM/UMTS phones don't need to be bought from an operator, a really
> innovative model can sell itself even if operators don't initially
> pick it up; with Verizon you can only use the phones Verizon thinks
> are a good idea, or can sell at a good margin. The fact that there's
> essentially a single source for the basic technology used by CDMA
> phones (and that single source is having patent problems in the US
> at that) doesn't help either.
>
> Essentially, selling CDMA phones through Verizon is a niche market. The
> vendors that play it in may make money, but are better off directing
> their best R&D efforts at the bigger market with a potentially bigger
> payoff. It is kind of too bad since CDMA2000 really does seem to me to
> be better technology (as can maybe be seen in the number of niches it
> is found in worldwide despite the dominance of GSM). There just isn't
> enough of it to keep it at the leading edge of handset technology.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
While all of the above may be accurate(it certainly is informative), it
sounds like a Verizon press relaese. If Verizon wanted to offer more
phone, with better functions and lower prices, they would be in the stores
today.
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| Pegleg 2007-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:39:21 -0700, "stevev" <stevev@addlebrain.com>
wrote:
>If Verizon wanted to offer more
>phone, with better functions and lower prices, they would be in the stores
>today.
>
You hit the nail on the head!
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| Larry 2007-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| Jeb <jeb.hoge@gmail.com> wrote in news:1186595864.693220.149340@
19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com:
> The only hack I've done is to turn off EV-DO, which nicely
> extended my regular battery life.
Alltel just turned on EVDO across Eastern SC, even in the tiny towns. I
don't do much data connecting with it because I need my phone for
business, but I do take a few pix and don't want to have to "spoof"
anything to make the damned phone store pictures where I tell it to, not
"them".
Thanks for the info. Yours seems less restricted than his is.
Thanks for this info on EVDO. I charge mine every night and never run it
below about 80% during the day. It ran down further when I had Axcess
TV, 25 channels of cable TV Alltel won't let you watch for $20/month.
After I found it would only run 10 minutes before rebooting-against-my-
will, I dumped it. Useless...just like "video clips"....
Larry
--
Great pictures from Nasa TV on Endeavour, tonight during maneuvering....
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| notme 2007-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| /agree
Seems like the phones they made 7 years ago were better. 99% of the phones
these days are hard to understand who your talking to on both sides.
The best one they have right now is the motorola v321i. But that probably
won't last long, so I'll have to look for another provider when this phone
goes.
AT&T has a better phone selection, cause you can pick up the older unlocked
phones, usually pretty cheap. But there coverage sucks.
"Pegleg" <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil> wrote in message
news:327hb39mnfpfjh7
nsogqksgu2q8krfo7ee@
4ax.com...
>I realize this is a rhetorical question but....why does Verizon have
> such crappy phones??????????????????????????????????
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| notme 2007-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| Most people are tone deaf and can't tell the difference between music played
on an ipod and an LP on a good stereo.
For those of us that can tell the difference, 99% of the phones these days
suck.
Same goes with the new movie theaters. Watch a movie in an old theater, and
then the same one in a new one. I can't watch a movie in most theaters cause
it hurts my ears. But the mindless masses still flock to them.
"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:xpSdnb46fdpsAyX
bnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@co
mcast.com...
> Pegleg wrote:
>
> Mine seem to make and receive calls OK. What problem are you having?
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| BTW I did try putting music on the SD ? memory card and played it and
I thought the E815 did a pretty good job of playing it back! Another
plus for it.
Lee
still wondering what an MMS is and how to import an mp3 to ringer!
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| On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:44:38 -0000, Jeb <jeb.hoge@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Aug 8, 9:30 am, ® <No...@home.now> wrote:
>
>Interestingly, except for some of the BT features, my Verizon E815 was
>neither crippled nor crappy. And I just remapped the nav/D-pad buttons
>to the stuff I use most often. This was a phone purchased two years
>ago.
If you were to buy a vm3 now you would be VERY disappointed...
And I am hearing if you take the phone in for a software up grade it
will cripple a couple things they missed... Can not say if this is
true. But have heard it from several different people.
As far as the verizon network goes... There are plenty of places in
my area where I can say " can you hear me now " and nobody answers.
I have been with them 4 or 5 years back into the AirTouch days. What
they have done to this phone pisses me off enough to switch service.
If they would have been up front about it that's different. But they
are not. You find out later on your own that all the cool things you
thought you could do with your new phone aren't going to happen unless
you hack it.
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| On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:38:13 -0700, Pegleg <Pegleg@usnavyret.mil>
wrote:
>On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 13:39:21 -0700, "stevev" <stevev@addlebrain.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>You hit the nail on the head!
Agreed! And verizon dose NOTHING for LONG time users of there
service. NOT SHIT!
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| notme wrote:
>
> AT&T has a better phone selection, cause you can pick up the older
> unlocked phones, usually pretty cheap. But there coverage sucks.
>
So what if the coverage sucks? As long as you can easily transfer your pics
and mp3s to an SD card... oh wait, that's the job of a CAMERA and an MP3
PLAYER, isn't it...??? But I see, its VZW that sucks...hmmm.
When did we forget that cell phones are for making/receiving CALLS and not
for playing music and taking pictures?
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| Peter Pan 2007-08-09, 10:33 pm |
| Larry wrote:
> Lee <lbray5032@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:ukkui.9567$Ug2.2814
> @bignews4.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> Assuming you have not hacked into your E815s, can I ask you two if you
> can put an MP3 file onto a micro SD from your computer, plug it into
> your Verizon E815, move that MP3 file to internal memory, then assign
> that MP3 file as the basic ringtone without hacking or modifying it?
>
> Is "Copy" and "Move" present on your Pictures and Video and Sounds
> menus so you can copy or move pictures/videos/sound files between
> internal memory and the micro SD card to get them off the phone onto
> something the computer can read?
>
> Go to Sounds Menu, pick "Switch Storage Devices" and pick PHONE to the
> internal memory. Point to one of the simple MP3 files on internal
> memory. Click the center Menu button. Is "Apply As Ringtone"
> present on the menu list on the Sounds Menu? Copy? Move?
>
> Turn on the still camera. Point at something and click "Capture".
> Click Store to get the Store Options up. Is "Store Only" to the
> current storage device on that menu?
>
> A friend of mine has the same E815 I bought from Alltel, but his is on
> Verizon. He's missing these local options and I'm told there is a
> hack to restore them, but not sure how to do it. All these features
> are enabled on the Alltel E815 firmware, by default. I take too many
> quicky pictures with it to pay a cell company to send them to me.
>
> Too bad it only supports 1GB microSD cards, not 2GB. I suppose 2GB
> microSD cards weren't available when E815 was produced. You're right
> about the phone. I replaced the shortened antenna with a full
> half-wave 800 Mhz that fits right in the same screwin mount to
> increase its portable range in the country. That works great. I
> also pulled the rubber plug out of the back of it and bought the TNC
> adapter cable from Alltel so I can connect my cellantenna DA4000 to
> it with a 9db magmount or the 11 element beam to it way out in the
> boonies where I need to call my suppliers in my business. The amps
> have sure gotten cheap, lately.
> http://cellantenna.com/Boosters/ ce...br />
sters.htm
>
>
> Larry
I have had an e815 (on verizon) for almost 2 years (next month is two
years), and all the stuff you mentioned, is easily doable, and works... As a
matter of fact, I use a 2 GB micro sd card in it, for mp3/pics/text/etc....
Looked into getting one from alltell (live in an alltell area), but it is
more expensive (many of my friends and family are on verizon, so it free to
call them, but only 10 or so with alltel) and has less features, than my
current verizon phone!
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| Larry 2007-08-10, 10:33 am |
| "Peter Pan" < PeterPanNOSPAM@Akama
ilNOSPAM.com> wrote in
news:_P- dnTq2j9JbKibbnZ2dnUV
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> I have had an e815 (on verizon) for almost 2 years (next month is two
> years), and all the stuff you mentioned, is easily doable, and
> works... As a matter of fact, I use a 2 GB micro sd card in it, for
> mp3/pics/text/etc.... Looked into getting one from alltell (live in an
> alltell area), but it is more expensive (many of my friends and family
> are on verizon, so it free to call them, but only 10 or so with
> alltel) and has less features, than my current verizon phone!
>
I'd be very interested in how you got a 2GB microsd to work in a 1GB
environment. When I plug them in here, on a much newer E815, it only
accesses the top 1GB and ignores the rest. Motorola says it only
supports 1GB cards.
The Alltel Circle is 10 number on ANY system, phone or cellphone, not
just Alltel. Alltel M2M is always free to any Alltel mobile number. I
use the Circle quite extensively with my suppliers and partners who are
not Alltel customers. I like that I can change them at will as
conditions change, too.
These bastards keep calling me so I'm feeding them to the spambots.
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| On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 10:13:00 -0400, "Carl"
< crothman@NOSPAMopton
line.net> wrote:
>notme wrote:
>So what if the coverage sucks? As long as you can easily transfer your pics
>and mp3s to an SD card... oh wait, that's the job of a CAMERA and an MP3
>PLAYER, isn't it...??? But I see, its VZW that sucks...hmmm.
>
>When did we forget that cell phones are for making/receiving CALLS and not
>for playing music and taking pictures?
True... That is what they are for. But it would be nice to get what
you pay for. I would like to make the choice if I am going to use the
features the phone. And not leave it up to verizon...
In that case sure I can use the features as long as I pay them each
time I do.
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"notme" < notme@notavaliddomai
n.mmm> wrote in message news:7tuui.77127
> But there coverage sucks.
It's "their," not there.
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