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| I met a Verizon guy (long sleeve shirt in 96F day to cover the needle
tracks, even) at Circuit City hawking their wares who seemed to know what
he was talking about. I asked him why Verizon doesn't have a streaming
TV offering, here. I was quite surprised at his answer and would like to
know if any of you know, first hand, about this new system......
He said Verizon is rolling out a new streaming TV system that's already
on the air in Atlanta and Raleigh, NC, that provides direct UHF TV
digital streaming SEPARATE from the company's data/internet system and
they already had phones to support it. Is this being built out?? He
said Charleston will be the first market so equipped in SC, "soon". The
idea was to keep streaming off their seemingly overloaded EVDO broadband
system, completely.
He seemed impressed at the 44 channels of live TV and music videos
playing without balking on my E815 inside Circuit City's metal building,
streaming on their new EVDO data system. He said operating streaming TV,
even this low res, over EVDO jammed the system and reduced bandwidth for
others sharing the EVDO service. He mentioned something about Verizon
trying to provide military and government customers with EVDO data, a
good reason to keep the average Joe off the system with 5GB/month limits,
no streaming, no VoIP, only webpages and email, no downloading.
Anyone ever see this TV service in the big cities they are now running?
Something like 10 channels....??
Larry
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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>I met a Verizon guy (long sleeve shirt in 96F day to cover the needle
> tracks, even) at Circuit City hawking their wares who seemed to know what
> he was talking about. I asked him why Verizon doesn't have a streaming
> TV offering, here. I was quite surprised at his answer and would like to
> know if any of you know, first hand, about this new system......
>
> He said Verizon is rolling out a new streaming TV system that's already
> on the air in Atlanta and Raleigh, NC, that provides direct UHF TV
> digital streaming SEPARATE from the company's data/internet system and
> they already had phones to support it. Is this being built out?? He
> said Charleston will be the first market so equipped in SC, "soon". The
> idea was to keep streaming off their seemingly overloaded EVDO broadband
> system, completely.
>
> He seemed impressed at the 44 channels of live TV and music videos
> playing without balking on my E815 inside Circuit City's metal building,
> streaming on their new EVDO data system. He said operating streaming TV,
> even this low res, over EVDO jammed the system and reduced bandwidth for
> others sharing the EVDO service. He mentioned something about Verizon
> trying to provide military and government customers with EVDO data, a
> good reason to keep the average Joe off the system with 5GB/month limits,
> no streaming, no VoIP, only webpages and email, no downloading.
>
> Anyone ever see this TV service in the big cities they are now running?
> Something like 10 channels....??
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>
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> Larry
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I'm in Las Vegas and they're doing it here. Pretty nice.
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| Larry 2007-08-20, 10:33 pm |
| "Juan" <n7rcm@pobox.com> wrote in news:46c9f2bc$0$3084
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> I'm in Las Vegas and they're doing it here. Pretty nice.
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How's the coverage? How many transmitters? How big an area?
Larry
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| Dennis Ferguson 2007-08-21, 4:33 am |
| On 2007-08-20, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> Anyone ever see this TV service in the big cities they are now running?
> Something like 10 channels....??
I've not seen it in real life use anywhere but I'm pretty sure that is this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaFLO
Dennis Ferguson
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| Larry 2007-08-21, 10:33 am |
| Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnfcktvt.8r.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:
> On 2007-08-20, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
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> I've not seen it in real life use anywhere but I'm pretty sure that is
> this:
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaFLO
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> Dennis Ferguson
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That must be why Verizon is ONE OF SEVERAL bidders for the 700 Mhz band
at the FCC auction. They don't even own the frequency band, yet, as the
auction hasn't happened.
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publ...A-07-3415A1.pdf
Larry
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| balsofsteele@gmail.com 2007-08-21, 3:33 pm |
| Larry wrote:
> Anyone ever see this TV service in the big cities they are now running?
> Something like 10 channels....??
Your local verizon guy makes a lot of excuses, but I agree - everything
'pushed' over evdo takes away from the interactive services.
I'm an american and I've never actually seen anyone 'watching' mobile
video on a cellphone. I actually paid for vcast for a couple months and
I have to say its like watching realvideo back in 1997 on a 28.8k modem.
The compression is substandard and they're obviously dedicating a very
minimal quantity of bandwidth to the service. I can actually stream
clearer video over 1xRTT (153k) using Media Player 11 to my laptop
(especially if I shrink the window down as small resolution as my
vx9800), than I can using ev-do on the cellphone.
Does anyone have any real-world stats on the vcast videos themselves?
codec, bitrate, etc?
The only 'cool' feature I've found on any cellphone recently that
actually makes me want to own it is the Samsung unit from AT&T that can
record and send sound clips, then tell you track/artist/album for the
sound sample. That *ROCKS*.
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| Todd Allcock 2007-08-22, 4:33 am |
| At 21 Aug 2007 14:27:23 -0500 balsofsteele@gmail.com wrote:
> The only 'cool' feature I've found on any cellphone recently that
> actually makes me want to own it is the Samsung unit from AT&T that
> can record and send sound clips, then tell you track/artist/album
for
> the sound sample. That *ROCKS*.
Actually it's Verizon who offers that service... ;-)
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"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003
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| Michael D. Sullivan 2007-08-23, 4:33 am |
| On 8/20/2007 2:24 PM, Larry wrote:
> He said Verizon is rolling out a new streaming TV system that's already
> on the air in Atlanta and Raleigh, NC, that provides direct UHF TV
> digital streaming SEPARATE from the company's data/internet system and
> they already had phones to support it. Is this being built out?? He
> said Charleston will be the first market so equipped in SC, "soon". The
> idea was to keep streaming off their seemingly overloaded EVDO broadband
> system, completely.
Verizon is rolling out service provided via stations in the
soon-to-be-former UHF TV band in the 700 MHz region.
While most of the 700 MHz licenses will be auctioned in January, certain
channels were already auctioned. Qualcomm bought nationwide licenses
for former TV channel 55 and has paid off some or all of the
broadcasters to move off of it early. It is using channel 55 for
MediaFLO, which will carry multiple encrypted digital video signals that
Qualcomm will make available for viewing via its partners in the
wireless business. Verizon and AT&T have both done deals with Qualcomm
for MediaFLO video.
The way it works is that you use a special phone that has a receiver
tuned to the frequency of former TV channel 55, which is used by
Qualcomm's transmitter in your area. These are high-powered one-way
transmitters, with coverage similar to TV stations; they are not in a
"cellular" configuration. The phone receives this signal but all of the
"channels" are encrypted so they can't be viewed without a key. You get
a key by picking a menu selection that gets a program listing from the
wireless carrier over the cellular/PCS data nework; when you pick a
program and agree to pay for it, your phone downloads the key and the
streaming Qualcomm video for the corresponding channel becomes viewable.
The details are available on Qualcomm's MediaFLO website.
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Michael D. Sullivan
Bethesda, MD (USA)
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| Larry 2007-08-23, 10:33 pm |
| "Michael D. Sullivan" <userid@camsul.example.invalid> wrote in
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> when you pick a
> program and agree to pay for it, your phone downloads the key and the
> streaming Qualcomm video for the corresponding channel becomes viewable.
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Yuck! PAY PER VIEW!
Larry
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| Mike Gorman 2007-08-24, 7:33 am |
| The network is owned by Qualcomm, not Verizon, Verizon is the first partner
with Qualcomm in the venture, and I think has some exclusivity for some
time.
It is in the TV channel 55 spectrum, Qualcomm got it a while ago.
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
> news:slrnfcktvt.8r.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:
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> That must be why Verizon is ONE OF SEVERAL bidders for the 700 Mhz band
> at the FCC auction. They don't even own the frequency band, yet, as the
> auction hasn't happened.
> http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publ...A-07-3415A1.pdf
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> Larry
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| "Mike Gorman" <yeahright@carolina.rr.com> wrote in
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> The network is owned by Qualcomm, not Verizon, Verizon is the first
> partner with Qualcomm in the venture, and I think has some exclusivity
> for some time.
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> It is in the TV channel 55 spectrum, Qualcomm got it a while ago.
>
Thanks. I looked over the Qualcomm website and it says they'll lay out 2
or 3 big 700 Mhz transmitters to deliver data to the special phones.
Of course, this limits delivery to the metro areas, unlike EVDO delivery
that shows TV anywhere the carrier has internet service, a much wider area.
It will be interesting to watch the rollout...see how long it takes.
Larry
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