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> Depot
>
> Let me first start off by saying thank you for your excellent work on
> the
> patch. My compliant was not directed towards you in anyway. It has to
> do
> with the number of people buying your software and then acting like
> little
> money whores on here with it. Like I had stated before this is a
> Newsgroup
> to help people "For the record in the public forum your patch does
> help
> people very much" and it if they choose to copy and resell a product
> that
> you created in the 1st place they could least have the common courtesy
> compensate you for your hard work on the patch. That was my intentions
> and
> towards whom it was directed towards. As far as the patch source goes,
> I
> have not cared enough to even attempt to take a look it. All I know is
> that
> you have created a excellent product and we all wish that you continue
> to do
> so. I just would hate to see you stop your work because of people who
> thinks
> more about making a dollar today than the person who can create a
> better
> product tomorrow.
>
>
> "Depot - The Source" depot@hawaii.rr.com wrote in message
> news:u6v681lh8k5p9mg
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> Ok let's put an end to the shinanigans.
>
> First off, I wrote the patch therefore I do feel I can sell it for
> whatever I decide to. Sure there are others who are selling it for
> cheaper and I have nothing against that. The reason for the premium
> is
> because buying it from the source always allows you access to the
> latest updates first since you don't have to wait for someone to get
> it from someone else and so forth.
>
> As for the user agreement. That pretains to the person using
> motorola's software. I write a patch that changes bytes in memory. My
> patch contains no motorola code and I am not altering any of
> motorola's files. I am altering memoryspace that is owned by the
> person who purchased the memory chips. The violation (if any) is of
> the user using the patch. Not the creator. Since I am not defeating
> any copy protection schemes or registration schemes there is no
> violation. I do not use nextel products and don't plan to either lol.
> I write patches because there is a demand for it.
>
> I do not use motorolas program nor use it as I do not even own nextel
> related equipment.
>
> If it were a true thorn in motorolas foot in regards to the patch.
> They could have easily removed the routines that allowed the patch to
> work. and it would not be difficult to do so. Motorola is a business
> of which it's investors expect a return of profits. If this patch had
> caused them to have any problems reaching their projected goals. I'm
> sure they would have made an attempt to stop it. In the eyes of
> public
> all businesses will always detest people who write any type of
> software patch that changes what their program does. But in a
> financial world. Money talks, and as long as money keeps flowing in
> (whether it be from the true intention of the software, or a patch
> that adds functionality you left out), the dollar is in your pocket.
>
> Enjoy
> Depot
>
>
> On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:12:50 -0400, "Justin" justinandsteph@rcn.com
> wrote:
> [color=green][i]
> there you go, free patch with purchase of service...lol
> "Thomas" reid99@comcast.net wrote in message
> news:2L2dnYnze7tl_Rz
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> Well then for the record, since you are selling your service and not
> the
> patch. Then you are giving the patch for free and would not have a
> problem
> giving people the patch for free if they request it ? Then charging
> them-
> for-
> help with it. If that is the case then that is actually innovative
> way
> of
> making money.
>
>
> "Justin" justinandsteph@rcn.com wrote in message
> news:0rSdnSYHov_CqRz
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> like I said before, I am helping people here. I'm selling my
> service
> "Thomas" reid99@comcast.net wrote in message
> news:S9mdnXSdKMuMrhz
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> No disagreeing with you. So for the record you are stating that you
> are
> selling a product that you are no longer using. If that is the case
> I
> cannot
> blame you, but the thing amazes me are the same people keeps
> offering-
> to-
> sell the same thing. If that's the case then you are either 1
> selling
> a
> copy
> of what you bought " If this is the case, are you paying the
> original
> creator of the patch his due monies?????? Right, that's my point-
> exactly,-
> so
> tech. it is a crime" or either you bought alot of these patches..
> But
> back
> to my original point. This is a newsgroup to help people. If you
> want-
> to-
> make money, then sell something that belongs to you or you actually-
> took-
> the
> time to actually create, not a copied patch of someone else hard
> work-
> for-
> your personal financial gain.
>
>
>
> "Justin" justinandsteph@rcn.com wrote in message
> news:ubudnVTcJdwshhz
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> people resell things all the time. if you sell something at a-
> yardsale-
> or
> on Ebay and you didn't actually manufacture that item, is it a
> crime?
> no
> it
> isn't.
> "Thomas" reid99@comcast.net wrote in message
> news:h6-dnfHmtdDwLR3fRVn-2Q@comcast.com...
> I am glad for you that you have helped customers, who you say they
> cannot
> think you enough. Question for you and all the other people
> selling
> the
> same
> patch. If you did not write the software patch and is selling the
> patch,
> are
> you sending the monies minus a reasonable finding fee to the
> person
> who
> originally took the time to sit down and create the patch in the
> 1st
> place
> ???? If you are not, I may add is stealing from in the 1st when
> you
> sell
> the software he created again and again to other people with
> nothing
> in
> return to him. But hey I guess if you feel justified who am I to
> judge.
> Just
> like the BTK serial killer in Washington, He was a public servant,-
> We-
> should all just write the Attorney General letters stating that he-
> has-
> did
> good deeds in the past and the wrong he has done should be over
> looked.
> The last time I checked this is a Newsgroup that is here to help
> people
> in
> need, not screw them. If you want to make money, That's great just
> don't
> screw the person who took the time to create the patch in the
> first
> place.
>
>
>
>
> "Mcnabb" jumcnabb5@yahoo.com wrote in message
> news:ev-dnRTqYsevdeLfRVn-2A@rcn.net...
> Thomas wrote:
>
> Did you actually write the software??? If you did, I cannot
> blame
> you
> for
> selling it to cover the expense of time, if not then your not
> helping
> like a newsgroup should. Your just trying to make a profit off
> someone
> else expense. As to the software. Maybe you should read the
> Motorola
> User
> Agreement. I states in there that you cannot alter the program
> in
> anyway."If you need help finding the Agreement to read it let
> me
> know,
> I
> will be glad to let you know where it is" You and I both know-
> that-
> with
> just the newsgroup log of people selling the crack and
> following-
> a-
> person's IP address that as logged into the Yahoo Server to-
> access-
> the
> email. Better yet just goto Paypal a person's personal-
> information-
> is
> alot easier to find. The old saying....where there is smoke
> there
> is
> fire. You and I both sure that you have a altered copy of RSS
> on
> your
> computer.
> But like I said, if you wrote the software, sell it by all-
> means.[color=darkred][i]
> My
> complainant is not with you.
> "Mcnabb" jumcnabb5@yahoo.com wrote in message
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