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| philo 2005-08-30, 11:48 pm |
| My boss got me a nice nextel i355 so he can always know where i am...
If he can get me to work 25 hours everyday...
i think he will get a raise.
If i don't want him to know when i go home to rest...
I guess i could just turn the thing off and then check my voicemail on a
regular phone...
but was wondering if GPS can just plain be turned off.
The other alternative is that i could just go back to the office and sleep
there...like everyone else seems to do.
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| Justin 2005-08-30, 11:48 pm |
| GPS can be disabled using Depot. If you have RSS Carrier just send me your
codeplug and I'll disable it for you if you don't want to buy Depot
http://www.freewebs.com/justinandsteph/index.htm
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> My boss got me a nice nextel i355 so he can always know where i am...
> If he can get me to work 25 hours everyday...
> i think he will get a raise.
> If i don't want him to know when i go home to rest...
> I guess i could just turn the thing off and then check my voicemail on a
> regular phone...
> but was wondering if GPS can just plain be turned off.
>
> The other alternative is that i could just go back to the office and sleep
> there...like everyone else seems to do.
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| philo 2005-08-30, 11:48 pm |
| On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:17:39 -0400, Justin wrote:
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> GPS can be disabled using Depot. If you have RSS Carrier just send me your
> codeplug and I'll disable it for you if you don't want to buy Depot
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> http://www.freewebs.com/justinandsteph/index.htm
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> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.08.30.21.12.53.509709@privacy.net...
Thanks for the info...
Due to a medical problem I'm pretty sure I can get a doctor's order to go
home and rest on occasion if necessary...
But it makes me feel better at least to know that if I wanted to turn off
the GPS that it's at least possible!
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| Zman53 2005-08-31, 5:48 pm |
| You can also change the GPS setting to Private. It will not report your
position, and doesn't cost anything to do it.
"Justin" <justinandsteph@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> GPS can be disabled using Depot. If you have RSS Carrier just send me
your
> codeplug and I'll disable it for you if you don't want to buy Depot
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> http://www.freewebs.com/justinandsteph/index.htm
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> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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| Justin 2005-08-31, 5:48 pm |
| your boss can still see you if he has paid for the tracking service
"Zman53" <zman53@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You can also change the GPS setting to Private. It will not report your
> position, and doesn't cost anything to do it.
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> "Justin" <justinandsteph@rcn.com> wrote in message
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| Zman53 2005-08-31, 5:48 pm |
| Nope.
"Justin" <justinandsteph@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> your boss can still see you if he has paid for the tracking service
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> "Zman53" <zman53@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Scott 2005-08-31, 11:48 pm |
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"Zman53" <zman53@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Nope.
Actually, it will still show up for the account owner- that's why the
setting is called 'private' instead of 'off'.
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> "Scott" <how.do@you.do> wrote in message
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Well...for the sake of my job...I don't think I'll mess with it...
but now I have a different question...
Is it possible for my boss to monitor my conversations
on both the radio side and on the phone side...
from a few comments he's made to me...it seems that we might be monitored...
and if so...is that legal for them to do so without telling us?
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"philo" > (snipped detritus)
> Well...for the sake of my job...I don't think I'll mess with it...
> but now I have a different question...
> Is it possible for my boss to monitor my conversations
> on both the radio side and on the phone side...
not unless he has a Federal or FBI intervention unit monitoring your calls
and walkie talkie transmissions.Keep your nose clean just in case.What is
your job that your employer has created such thoughts in your mind?
> from a few comments he's made to me...it seems that we might be
monitored...
> and if so...is that legal for them to do so without telling us?
depends on cirumstances.Locally here DEA got Nextel Wiretap permission to
track down drug dealers using Boost and Nextel for activites related to flow
and sale of drugs.Stupid thugs thought Nextel/boost DC could not be
interdicted and monitored.9 people busted 2 days ago.
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> monitored...
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> depends on cirumstances.Locally here DEA got Nextel Wiretap permission to
> track down drug dealers using Boost and Nextel for activites related to flow
> and sale of drugs.Stupid thugs thought Nextel/boost DC could not be
> interdicted and monitored.9 people busted 2 days ago.
well normally when i see folks who ask paranoid questions i think they are
some kind of wacko...
but now that my company is monitoring us with GPS i guess i was getting
pretty paranoid.
what really gets me is that all i do for a living is repair industrial
equipment...
and they put a quota on us for our $$$...
up until now no one cared how many or few hours i put in...
just as long as i made my numbers...they left us alone.
my numbers are always 95 - 125% of the quota...
and i;ve been very consistant for over 20 years.
this year i am at %150 of my quota...a record high...
but i got questioned for just working 6 hours a day on occasion.
(although they do not seem to notice that some days i work 11 hours)
*however* in my years with this company i have seen 5 managers come and go...
and i've outlasted and out-manovered all of them...
and the one who is currently giving me problems will soon find who he's
dealing with!
each one requires a different technique.
with some...i;ve just gone over their heads.
with others...i;ve just sat it out and eventually watched them hang
themselves.
others...i've just ignored until they were "kicked" upstairs
anyway...i'm up for the challenge...
it's actually pretty fun!
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| Isaiah Beard 2005-09-13, 2:19 pm |
| WKR wrote:
> "philo" > (snipped detritus)
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> not unless he has a Federal or FBI intervention unit monitoring your calls
> and walkie talkie transmissions.
Actually, the line gets blurred significantly when it comes to company
owned equipment. There have been cases where employers have monitored
conversation on company-bought-and-paid for equipment and got away with
it. The rationale is that if you use company resources, the company has
a right to know what you're using those resources *for*. Which makes
sense.
Of course, most people with decent jobs aren't monitored 24 hours a day
(and I guess I'm lucky as my employer won't be bothered with monitoring
my every action at all, so long as I accomplish my tasks, and get the
job done on time). If that's the kind of corporate climate the OP is
in, it might be time to dust off the ol' resume.
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| Wayne Redick 2005-09-13, 2:19 pm |
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"Isaiah Beard" wrote:
> WKR wrote:
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> Actually, the line gets blurred significantly when it comes to company
> owned equipment. There have been cases where employers have monitored
> conversation on company-bought-and-paid for equipment and got away with
> it. The rationale is that if you use company resources, the company has a
> right to know what you're using those resources *for*. Which makes sense.
>
> Of course, most people with decent jobs aren't monitored 24 hours a day
> (and I guess I'm lucky as my employer won't be bothered with monitoring my
> every action at all, so long as I accomplish my tasks, and get the job
> done on time). If that's the kind of corporate climate the OP is in, it
> might be time to dust off the ol' resume.
So true.But if he is monitoring your personal privately owned cell phone
then he is in the wrong.
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| Isaiah Beard 2005-09-13, 2:19 pm |
| Wayne Redick wrote:
> "Isaiah Beard" wrote:
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> So true.But if he is monitoring your personal privately owned cell phone
> then he is in the wrong.
Oh absolutely. The problem though, was that the OP's employer gave him
a Nextel handset on a company account, and basically required him to
have it on 24/7, presumably for tracking purposes.
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| Bill Hoyt 2005-09-16, 5:48 pm |
| ----- Original Message -----
From: "Isaiah Beard" < sacredpoet@sacredpoe
t.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cellular.nextel
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Deactivate GPS
> Wayne Redick wrote:
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> Oh absolutely. The problem though, was that the OP's employer gave him a
> Nextel handset on a company account, and basically required him to have it
> on 24/7, presumably for tracking purposes.
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> --
> E-mail fudged to thwart spammers.
> Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply.
I don't think there's anything to be paranoid about. I could be wrong, but
I don't think it is technically possible for an employer to track employees
whereabouts using GPS capable cell phones.
If I'm not mistaken GPS is a passive system of 24 statelites circling the
earth in geosyncrinous orbits that transmit a specific signal continuously
back to earth. Your GPS enabled cell phone scans for signals from three or
more of these satalites. Once it does receive a signal from the satelites
it calculates your position from the positions of each of the satalites it
receives a signal from and from the time it takes each of the signals to be
received by the GPS.
Each of the satelites is in a spacific position at all times, so reading the
signals from multiple satelites results in triangulating the postion of the
GPS cell phone, relative to the know positions of the satelites the GPS was
able to read a signal from.
In order for an employer or anyone else to track an employee using a GPS
enabled cell phone, the cell phone would have to be set up to send the
signal with the GPS's calculated position to a receiver.
The GPS units in cell phones are passive also, in that they are told by the
user when to scan for satelites, read the signals, and calculate the
position. In other word the user must invoke the GPS in order for it to
work at all. This can be done any number of ways, from executing the GPS's
position function, to dialing 911, to executing an mapping application on
the cell phone to track your current position. Dialing 911 will tell the
GPS to send your current GPS position to the 911 system, so that emergency
personnel can be dispatched to your position.
Now, if you have a company supplied vehicle all bets are off. The GPS units
in some vehicles are designed specifically to track the whereabouts of the
vehicle, constantly and send a continious signal to a receiver relaying your
current position at a specified time. This information can be used to not
only track the whereabouts of the car, but the speed of the vehicle also.
Our local city buses have such a system, that tracks the position and speed
of each city bus in the fleet and radios that information to the dispatch
center.
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| DevilsPGD 2005-09-16, 11:48 pm |
| In message <fJ6dnf1ICOApnbbeRVn-vg@comcast.com> "Bill Hoyt"
<bhoyt@comcast.net> wrote:
>I don't think there's anything to be paranoid about. I could be wrong, but
>I don't think it is technically possible for an employer to track employees
>whereabouts using GPS capable cell phones.
Sure it's possible, it's already a service Nextel offers.
--
I'm sorry sir, you can't park your van on the diving board.
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| Bill Hoyt 2005-09-18, 11:48 pm |
| Right after writing that long post describbing the workings of GPS, I went
to the Nextel site and was shocked to discover that there was a link to
track employees locations using their Nextel GPS enabled cell phone. So, I
stand corrected.
However, I don't believe they can legally do that, unless the account for
that phone is in the employers name.
"DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
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> In message <fJ6dnf1ICOApnbbeRVn-vg@comcast.com> "Bill Hoyt"
> <bhoyt@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Sure it's possible, it's already a service Nextel offers.
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| Scott 2005-09-18, 11:48 pm |
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"Bill Hoyt" <bhoyt@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Right after writing that long post describbing the workings of GPS, I went
> to the Nextel site and was shocked to discover that there was a link to
> track employees locations using their Nextel GPS enabled cell phone. So,
I
> stand corrected.
>
> However, I don't believe they can legally do that, unless the account for
> that phone is in the employers name.
>
Phones can only be tracked that are connected to the account. You can't
monitor random phones.
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| DevilsPGD 2005-09-19, 2:48 am |
| In message <eomdna7JN6PydLDeRVn-qA@comcast.com> "Bill Hoyt"
<bhoyt@comcast.net> wrote:
>Right after writing that long post describbing the workings of GPS, I went
>to the Nextel site and was shocked to discover that there was a link to
>track employees locations using their Nextel GPS enabled cell phone. So, I
>stand corrected.
>
>However, I don't believe they can legally do that, unless the account for
>that phone is in the employers name.
Correct. Well, either that, or explicit authorization is given (and
even then I'm not sure if the employer could access it as a corporate
account or if they'd have to access each individual phone individually)
--
Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts
have no place in organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
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| The account holder pay for additional Java services on the phones to be able
to do this. They are only able to do this for their authorized accounts.
"Bill Hoyt" <bhoyt@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Right after writing that long post describbing the workings of GPS, I went
> to the Nextel site and was shocked to discover that there was a link to
> track employees locations using their Nextel GPS enabled cell phone. So,
I
> stand corrected.
>
> However, I don't believe they can legally do that, unless the account for
> that phone is in the employers name.
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> "DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
> news:97pmi155hng1r6i
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| iogene 2006-03-13, 11:48 pm |
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I realize this is an old post, but I'm going to use it anyway.
I have an i305 that I mwould like to pull the sim chip on and install
into a non-GPS phone.
Any suggetions???
TIA
iogene
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| Justin 2006-03-13, 11:48 pm |
| Why don't you want GPS? Hiding from your employer? Just use RSS Depot and
disable the GPS, that's what I did
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| Open the back of the phone, remove the battery, slide out the sim chip. The
only non-GPS sim-based phones are from an earlier platform, and may not
function properly, if at all, with the sim chip.
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> I realize this is an old post, but I'm going to use it anyway.
> I have an i305 that I mwould like to pull the sim chip on and install
> into a non-GPS phone.
> Any suggetions???
> TIA
> iogene
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