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Fashion drives cellphone design

decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-28, 10:33 pm

I need to add this to my bedtime prayer...

Dear Lord...
* Please don't let cellular companies put fashion before data speeds.
[added to]
* Grant me the ability to punch someone in the face over standard TCP/IP.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/ptech/...n.ap/index.html
[snip]
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- For Denise Albert, choosing a cell phone has nothing
to do with ring tones, instant messages or megapixels.

"To me, it's what it looks like," said Albert, a 53-year-old campaign
fundraiser from suburban Powell. "I want a good design. Period."

Albert represents a fashion trend marketers are tapping into as they offer
mobile phones with sleeker designs and in more colors, such as blue and
pink, and accessories ranging from charms and stickers to crystals and tiny
designer purses.

David G. Imber

2006-10-29, 4:33 am

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:18:13 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
< nope_none_@nowayspam
.com> wrote:

>I need to add this to my bedtime prayer...
>
>Dear Lord...
>* Please don't let cellular companies put fashion before data speeds.
>[added to]
>* Grant me the ability to punch someone in the face over standard TCP/IP.

I didn't read the entire article, but the cellular companies
needn't put fashion _before_ data speeds or any other phone function.
And the word fashion is misleading.

Good design is worth striving for. It's possible for a phone
to be functional, ergonomic, and pleasing in appearance. The
cost-intensive part is functionality, because it involves R&D, lab
testing, etc. The other two qualities require only the services of a
good designer, and as the article points out, the results of the
investment may pay for it many times over. Only the will to
incorporate all these qualities is required by the manufacturers, and
that would be instilled by increased profit. Just look at the
astounding array of phones available in Japan. They work as well as
any on earth, and many are near works of art (and in fact several
phones from Japan's au/KDDI have won int'l. design awards).

People may _buy_ phones for whatever reason they wish.
Manufacturers should try to make them appeal on every level. There's
absolutely nothing wrong with that. You needn't punch anyone out over
it.

DGI

decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-29, 10:33 am

David G. Imber wrote:
> I didn't read the entire article, but the cellular companies
> needn't put fashion _before_ data speeds or any other phone function.
> And the word fashion is misleading.

A cellphone is meant to be a communications device, not a fashion statement.

St. John Smythe

2006-10-29, 10:33 am

decaturtxcowboy wrote:
> A cellphone is meant to be a communications device, not a fashion
> statement.

So, how do you feel about wristwatches?

--
St. John
I have learned silence from the talkative,
toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind.
-Kahlil Gibran

Notan

2006-10-29, 10:33 am

"St. John Smythe" wrote:
>
> decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
> So, how do you feel about wristwatches?

Personally, I use mine to tell time. It's a $100 watch that I've been
wearing for ~5 years.

Ask the same question to a Rolex wearer, and I'd imagine you'd get a
*very* different answer!

Notan

John Richards

2006-10-29, 12:33 pm

"St. John Smythe" <sinjen@n4vu.com> wrote in message news:ei2ing$8sb$1@n4
vu2.n4vu.com...
> decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
> So, how do you feel about wristwatches?

I quit wearing a wristwatch when I got a cellphone. Why does one
need more than one device with the correct time?

--
John Richards

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

In article <tD51h.23313$e66.14623@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
"John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:

> "St. John Smythe" <sinjen@n4vu.com> wrote in message
> news:ei2ing$8sb$1@n4
vu2.n4vu.com...
>
> I quit wearing a wristwatch when I got a cellphone. Why does one
> need more than one device with the correct time?

I second that! Well, fashion and design goes hand in hand, just imagine
we are still using motorola brick.

decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

St. John Smythe wrote:
> decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>

I cross that bridge when wristwatches are par with Dick Tracy's "Wrist
Radio", until then...Walmart can keep their watches.

David G. Imber

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:52:16 -0500, "St. John Smythe"
<sinjen@n4vu.com> wrote:

>decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
>So, how do you feel about wristwatches?

And cars. And I suppose he lives in a quonset hut and goes to
work every day in a grey jumpsuit.

DGI

David G. Imber

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:35:21 GMT, "John Richards"
<jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:

>"St. John Smythe" <sinjen@n4vu.com> wrote in message news:ei2ing$8sb$1@n4
vu2.n4vu.com...
>
>I quit wearing a wristwatch when I got a cellphone. Why does one
>need more than one device with the correct time?

Some of us use subways, and Sprint, at least, hasn't put forth
the effort to see to it that the phone retains a timekeeping function
when it's not connected to any network. Actually, my old Nokia 6185
kept telling the time.

DGI

Mij Adyaw

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

Someone should tell that to the millions of teenage girls the comprise a
very large portion of the cellular phone customer base.

"decaturtxcowboy" < nope_none_@nowayspam
.com> wrote in message
news:Gh21h.23215$e66.2552@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> David G. Imber wrote:
>
> A cellphone is meant to be a communications device, not a fashion
> statement.

Mij Adyaw

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

Watches are fashion. Males are very limited in expression of fashion and
therfore a wristwatch is one fashion accessory that men should have. Just
like having good shoes.

"sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:nospam-6996DF.13130129102006@news-fe-01.texas.rr.com...
> In article <tD51h.23313$e66.14623@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>,
> "John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> I second that! Well, fashion and design goes hand in hand, just imagine
> we are still using motorola brick.

Notan

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
> Watches are fashion. Males are very limited in expression of fashion and
> therfore a wristwatch is one fashion accessory that men should have. Just
> like having good shoes.
>
> <snip>

Huh?

Again, I use my watch for telling time. Nothing more, nothing less.

Notan

Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-10-29, 3:33 pm

In article <Ea81h.51014$Ry4.9924@newsfe10.phx>,
"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote:

> Watches are fashion. Males are very limited in expression of fashion and
> therfore a wristwatch is one fashion accessory that men should have. Just
> like having good shoes.

John, I didn't know you swung that way.

Doesn't surprise me, though.

2006-10-29, 10:33 pm

In article <elmop-8BD233. 15460829102006@nntp1
.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <Ea81h.51014$Ry4.9924@newsfe10.phx>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote:
>
>
> John, I didn't know you swung that way.
>
> Doesn't surprise me, though.
>

Hey, that is the reason behind calling him anus.

John Richards

2006-10-29, 10:33 pm

Some people are slaves to fashion. I prefer comfort, and would
rather not have a clammy thing hanging from my wrist.

--
John Richards

"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote in message news:Ea81h.51014$Ry4.9924@newsfe10.phx...[color=darkred]
> Watches are fashion. Males are very limited in expression of fashion and
> therfore a wristwatch is one fashion accessory that men should have. Just
> like having good shoes.
>
> "sw" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:nospam-6996DF.13130129102006@news-fe-01.texas.rr.com...

David G. Imber

2006-10-29, 10:33 pm

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:28:08 GMT, "John Richards"
<jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:

>Some people are slaves to fashion. I prefer comfort, and would
>rather not have a clammy thing hanging from my wrist.

Again, in my original reply I said that the word "fashion" is
misleading. It's design we're talking about, and that includes
functionality, ergonomic suitability, and aesthetic appeal. The
article was mostly about one aspect of design, but if anyone says that
they simply don't exercise any choice in the matter of the appearance
of what they wear, drive, sit on, live in, etc., I don't believe them.
I know at least that I have nothing at all to say to anyone who makes
that claim, and probably wouldn't want to sit next to them on a long
bus ride.

DGI

Todd Allcock

2006-10-29, 10:33 pm

At 29 Oct 2006 13:47:18 +0000 decaturtxcowboy wrote:

> A cellphone is meant to be a communications device, not a fashion
statement.

Watches used to be meant to be timekeeping devices. Clothes were once
meant to be protection from the elements.

Times change.

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Notan

2006-10-29, 10:33 pm

Todd Allcock wrote:
>
> At 29 Oct 2006 13:47:18 +0000 decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
> statement.
>
> Watches used to be meant to be timekeeping devices. Clothes were once
> meant to be protection from the elements.
>
> Times change.

Not for everyone, fashion boy! <g>

While I certainly like the way my clothes look, I've *never* been one
to follow any type of fashion trend.

Go ahead, let the jokes begin.

Notan

decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-29, 10:33 pm

David G. Imber wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 10:52:16 -0500, "St. John Smythe"
> <sinjen@n4vu.com> wrote:
>
>
> And cars. And I suppose he lives in a quonset hut and goes to
> work every day in a grey jumpsuit.

House: 3,000 sq. ft. all steel frame construction with minimal walls
(Martha Stewart - eat yer heart out) on forty acres.

Vehicle: Two-ton Dodge diesel dually four-door four-wheel-drive.

Work clothes: Wrangler 31x36 slim-fit, boot-cut jeans and khaki long sleeve
shirt.

David G. Imber

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 04:03:55 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
< nope_none_@nowayspam
.com> wrote:

>David G. Imber wrote:
>
>House: 3,000 sq. ft. all steel frame construction with minimal walls
>(Martha Stewart - eat yer heart out) on forty acres.

Sounds very nice, and it certainly sounds like you made a
choice. All kidding aside, that's what I'm getting at. Looking good
does not have to take precedence over functioning well, and if unique
colors and shapes rev one's engine, that's fine.

The original post seemed to imply that phones that looked a
certain way were inferior to plainly functional instruments. That just
doesn't have to be true, and for many, looking good and being built in
an organic way with an awareness of how the human body works is of
great importance.

DGI

John Navas

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 02:18:13 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
< nope_none_@nowayspam
.com> wrote in
<FbU0h.16966$GR.7239@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:

>I need to add this to my bedtime prayer...
>
>Dear Lord...
>* Please don't let cellular companies put fashion before data speeds.
>[added to]
>* Grant me the ability to punch someone in the face over standard TCP/IP.

You'd rather have what, Token Ring? LOL!

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Native NYer in Texas

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

Tell that to Heir Head Paris Hilton. I agree with you though 100%,
functionality is a lot more important than how the darn thing looks, at
least to me.

"decaturtxcowboy" < nope_none_@nowayspam
.com> wrote in message
news:Gh21h.23215$e66.2552@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> David G. Imber wrote:
>
> A cellphone is meant to be a communications device, not a fashion
statement.

Native NYer in Texas

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

Well, for me, I can't really take out my cell phone to look at the time when
I'm riding 65 mph on the highway on my motorcycle. I'm sure people do it but
not me.

"John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in message
news:tD51h.23313$e66.14623@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> "St. John Smythe" <sinjen@n4vu.com> wrote in message
news:ei2ing$8sb$1@n4
vu2.n4vu.com...
>
> I quit wearing a wristwatch when I got a cellphone. Why does one
> need more than one device with the correct time?
>
> --
> John Richards

Native NYer in Texas

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

Mine not only tells time but also compass directions in degrees,
temperature, barometric pressure and altitude, and some of the more common
watch functions like a stop watch, alarm and date.

"Notan" <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote in message
news:454512A9.76ED3E96@ddress.thatcanbespammed...
> Mij Adyaw wrote:
Just[color=darkred]
>
> Huh?
>
> Again, I use my watch for telling time. Nothing more, nothing less.
>
> Notan

Native NYer in Texas

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

Well, some bible thumpers might agree that anyone who purchases any kind of
article other than that of it being 'functional' is committing one of the
seven deadly sins, pride.

"Todd Allcock" < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote in message
news:45455f94$0$1214
9$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> At 29 Oct 2006 13:47:18 +0000 decaturtxcowboy wrote:
>
> statement.
>
> Watches used to be meant to be timekeeping devices. Clothes were once
> meant to be protection from the elements.
>
> Times change.
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

Todd Allcock

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

At 29 Oct 2006 17:35:21 +0000 John Richards wrote:

> I quit wearing a wristwatch when I got a cellphone. Why does one
> need more than one device with the correct time?

Because they don't make a wrist strap for my PPC Phone?

(Kidding aside, I stopped wearing a watch when I started carrying phones
with clocks built-in. My first three cellphones- all analog Nokias-
didn't have a clock!)

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Todd Allcock

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

At 30 Oct 2006 01:45:46 -0600 Native NYer in Texas wrote:
> Well, some bible thumpers might agree that anyone who purchases any
kind of
> article other than that of it being 'functional' is committing one of
the
> seven deadly sins, pride.

That might explain the lack of pink RAZRs in Amish country...

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Todd Allcock

2006-10-30, 4:33 am

At 30 Oct 2006 01:41:46 -0600 Native NYer in Texas wrote:
> Mine not only tells time but also compass directions in degrees,
> temperature, barometric pressure and altitude, and some of the more
common
> watch functions like a stop watch, alarm and date.

So, essentially, your fashion statement is "I'm a geek!" ;-)

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Paul Miner

2006-10-30, 10:33 am

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:30:36 -0800, "Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com>
wrote:

>Watches are fashion. Males are very limited in expression of fashion and
>therfore a wristwatch is one fashion accessory that men should have. Just
>like having good shoes.

My last watch broke at 3:09 PM in a motorcycle accident in February,
1983. I never replaced it because clocks are everywhere. Oh, my best
shoes are my old military combat boots, the ones that I reserved for
office use. Shined up, they ain't too shabby.

--
Paul Miner

Paul Miner

2006-10-30, 10:33 am

On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 20:20:43 -0700, Notan
<notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:

>While I certainly like the way my clothes look, I've *never* been one
>to follow any type of fashion trend.
>
>Go ahead, let the jokes begin.
>
>Notan

On Usenet, you can't hear any of us scream. :)

--
Paul Miner

decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-30, 3:33 pm

Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 30 Oct 2006 01:45:46 -0600 Native NYer in Texas wrote:
> kind of
> the
>
> That might explain the lack of pink RAZRs in Amish country...

Coming from an Amish family, cellphones would be considered essential items
for commerce (but indoor toilets are not - unless you "delivered" a product
that crossed a state line [Federal Transportation R&R addressing interstate
commerce]), just as having a wagon for your horses to pull goods from the
farm to the market; of course said wagon is required to have proper
lighting for use on the public roads (but indoor electric lighting is not
permittted), however cannot have a Jack-In-Box antenna ball...but then, you
can't have a radio in aforementioned wagon. However a radio antenna is
permitted as it could be considered an emergency buggy whip.

decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-30, 3:33 pm

John Navas wrote:
>
> You'd rather have what, Token Ring? LOL!

No...that would go in a full circle and hit me back.

decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-30, 3:33 pm

David G. Imber wrote:
> The original post seemed to imply that phones that looked a
> certain way were inferior to plainly functional instruments. That just
> doesn't have to be true, and for many, looking good and being built in
> an organic way with an awareness of how the human body works is of
> great importance.

Well actually, my original post was addresses how the cellphone companies
could potentially place even more importance on style, changeable
faceplates and ringer tones.

John Navas

2006-10-30, 10:34 pm

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:46:11 GMT, Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid>
wrote in < de7ck25qlaqg10ri5vcj
t7aamvbeltq25d@4ax.com>:

>On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 12:30:36 -0800, "Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>My last watch broke at 3:09 PM in a motorcycle accident in February,
>1983. I never replaced it because clocks are everywhere. ...

You must not get outdoors much. ;)

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Paul Miner

2006-10-30, 10:34 pm

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:36:39 GMT, John Navas
< spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:46:11 GMT, Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid>
>wrote in < de7ck25qlaqg10ri5vcj
t7aamvbeltq25d@4ax.com>:
>
>
>You must not get outdoors much. ;)

Heh, I know you're kidding, but still, my vehicles all have clocks,
there's a bank on every corner with a clock, the sun is frequently
visible, etc. In more recent years, there's of course the cell phone.
I'm rarely at a loss when it comes to knowing what time it is. :)

--
Paul Miner

John Navas

2006-10-30, 10:34 pm

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:47:55 GMT, Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid>
wrote in < 9k3dk29ho0ce77q3dukg
3n30nc0qfd2q9p@4ax.com>:

>On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:36:39 GMT, John Navas
>< spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>Heh, I know you're kidding, but still, my vehicles all have clocks,
>there's a bank on every corner with a clock, the sun is frequently
>visible, etc. In more recent years, there's of course the cell phone.
>I'm rarely at a loss when it comes to knowing what time it is. :)

I should have said: You must not get out of town much.
I'm frequently in places with no clocks; e.g.,
<http://www.nps.gov/pore/>

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B. Wright

2006-10-31, 4:33 am

In alt.cellular.cingular decaturtxcowboy < nope_none_@nowayspam
.com> wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
[color=darkred]
> Coming from an Amish family, cellphones would be considered essential items
> for commerce (but indoor toilets are not ...

But what if the product you have is complete shit? :)

dold@XReXXFashi.usenet.us.com

2006-10-31, 7:33 am

In alt.cellular.cingular John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:47:55 GMT, Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid>

I do have clocks in all of my vehicles, but I'm not in them all that much.
It's 12 miles to the nearest bank. They might have a clock, certainly one
inside. Daylight Savings Time just went away, so it will be a while before
I can figure out what time it is, and it's dark a lot. The cell phone is
probably off in some of the places I might want to know what time it is,
like on a commercial airplane. I don't use an alarm clock to wake up, but
I do use one for appointments.
[color=darkred]
> I should have said: You must not get out of town much.
> I'm frequently in places with no clocks; e.g.,
> <http://www.nps.gov/pore/>

I don't think I've been there, although I have been to Stinson, Mt. Tam,
and GGNR, just south of there. Place with no clocks?
http://www.confluence.org/confluenc...lon=103&visit=1
Oops. Clock on the GPS.

;-)

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Thomas T. Veldhouse

2006-10-31, 10:33 am

In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
>
> Heh, I know you're kidding, but still, my vehicles all have clocks,
> there's a bank on every corner with a clock, the sun is frequently
> visible, etc. In more recent years, there's of course the cell phone.
> I'm rarely at a loss when it comes to knowing what time it is. :)
>

It seems to be a growing American trend to not wear a watch. This statement
most likely does not apply to you, but it also seems that more and more
American's are tardy ... lacking the social responsibility to be on time.

--
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decaturtxcowboy

2006-10-31, 10:33 am

B. Wright wrote:
> But what if the product you have is complete shit? :)
>

That would be a new thread about Cingular EDGE... heh heh heh

Paul Miner

2006-10-31, 10:33 pm

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:44:22 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid> wrote:
>
>It seems to be a growing American trend to not wear a watch. This statement
>most likely does not apply to you, but it also seems that more and more
>American's are tardy ... lacking the social responsibility to be on time.

I think you're onto something about trends. They mentioned on the
Today show recently that the major watch companies are selling far
fewer watches in the US in recent years compared to 5+ years ago. Of
course, they ran the story with the usual outlandish teaser, something
like, "Are watch companies running out of time?" or some such. :)

--
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John Navas

2006-10-31, 10:33 pm

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:25:05 GMT, Paul Miner <pminer@elrancho.invalid>
wrote in < jrlfk2ppnm3oi9g8u6bb
fdekrorui1fvvi@4ax.com>:

>On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 13:44:22 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
><veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>I think you're onto something about trends. They mentioned on the
>Today show recently that the major watch companies are selling far
>fewer watches in the US in recent years compared to 5+ years ago. Of
>course, they ran the story with the usual outlandish teaser, something
>like, "Are watch companies running out of time?" or some such. :)

It may (at least in part) be due to the fact that watches are (a) much
more reliable than they used to be and (b) less of a fashion statement,
having lost much of that to cell phones, iPods, PDAs, and the like.

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John Richards

2006-10-31, 10:33 pm

<dold@XReXXFashi.usenet.us.com> wrote in message news:ei7cfe$k6p$1@bl
ue.rahul.net...
> I do have clocks in all of my vehicles, but I'm not in them all that much.
> It's 12 miles to the nearest bank. They might have a clock, certainly one
> inside. Daylight Savings Time just went away, so it will be a while before
> I can figure out what time it is, and it's dark a lot. The cell phone is
> probably off in some of the places I might want to know what time it is,
> like on a commercial airplane. I don't use an alarm clock to wake up, but
> I do use one for appointments.

There are a few occasions where using the cellphone's time display
is inconvenient, such as when the cellphone is turned off, but for
most people those occasions are few and far between. Also, most
cellphones have an alarm clock function.

--
John Richards

Notan

2006-10-31, 10:33 pm

John Richards wrote:
>
> <dold@XReXXFashi.usenet.us.com> wrote in message news:ei7cfe$k6p$1@bl
ue.rahul.net...
>
> There are a few occasions where using the cellphone's time display
> is inconvenient, such as when the cellphone is turned off, but for
> most people those occasions are few and far between. Also, most
> cellphones have an alarm clock function.

It's a helluva lot easier to look at ones wrist than a cellphone display.

Am I missing something?

Notan

dold@XReXXFashi.usenet.us.com

2006-11-01, 10:33 am

In alt.cellular.cingular John Richards <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:

> There are a few occasions where using the cellphone's time display
> is inconvenient, such as when the cellphone is turned off, but for

Or, if you are on a call...
The internal display is covered up with a softkey label.
The external display says Cingular.

Can the time be displayed during a call?
If both parties to the conversation use cellphones as their only timepiece,
neither has a timepiece available during the call.

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dold@XReXXFashi.usenet.us.com

2006-11-01, 10:33 am

In alt.cellular.cingular Notan <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:

> It's a helluva lot easier to look at ones wrist than a cellphone display.

> Am I missing something?

The point was that many people no longer wear a wristwatch. The cellphone
is the only timepiece.

The ease one requires in ability to reference a timepiece might also indicate
one's slavery to minuscule amounts of time.

I stopped wearing a wristwatch during public presentations because glancing
at the watch to see how much time was left seemed like an indication of
boredom with the topic and a desire for the end time to arrive sooner.

That was true, but I didn't want to advertise it. ;-)

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2006-11-01, 10:33 am

In article <eiahej$i1l$1@blue.rahul.net>, dold@XReXXFashi.usenet.us.com
wrote:

> In alt.cellular.cingular John Richards <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> Or, if you are on a call...
> The internal display is covered up with a softkey label.
> The external display says Cingular.
>
> Can the time be displayed during a call?
> If both parties to the conversation use cellphones as their only timepiece,
> neither has a timepiece available during the call.

I am unsure about other cellphones, but it has never been a problem with
Blackberry. Blackberry will always display the time, date & phone #.
Moreover, I always use a bluetooth earpiece so I can no only see the
time also I can schedule appointments if necessary.

Thurman

2006-11-01, 12:33 pm

"Notan" <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote in message
news:45481595.9D3753CE@ddress.thatcanbespammed...
>
> It's a helluva lot easier to look at ones wrist than a cellphone display.
>
> Am I missing something?

It's just a matter of preference and commitment. I no longer have 8 to 9
apt's per day. The CPU/Net tells me when I have an appt at sign on in the
morning. My life is not so structured any more.

I've been striving to reduce the number of things
carried/charged/adjusted/maintained/backed up.

From wristwatch, cell phone, PDA, GPS, pager; with Cingular's next release
of a Smartphone, I'll be down to two devices.

(May start carrying a printer in the car).

decaturtxcowboy

2006-11-01, 10:33 pm

Thurman wrote:
> (May start carrying a printer in the car).

Go with the cheapest disposable printer you can find - one with a single
tri-color cart and replace it with a black one. My color Epson didn't last
a week in the Texas sun - prolly the ink gummed up. But as the
advertisements claim, it sure is water proof after 24 hours!

John Navas

2006-11-01, 10:33 pm

On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:45:34 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
< nope_none_@nowayspam
.com> wrote in
<is92h.21745$GR.19074@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:

>Thurman wrote:
>
>Go with the cheapest disposable printer you can find - one with a single
>tri-color cart and replace it with a black one. My color Epson didn't last
>a week in the Texas sun - prolly the ink gummed up. But as the
>advertisements claim, it sure is water proof after 24 hours!

No such problems with laser printers...
B&W: Samsung ML-2510, HP Laserjet 1020
Color: Samsung CLP-300
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Todd Allcock

2006-11-01, 10:33 pm

At 01 Nov 2006 09:28:41 -0600 Thurman wrote:

> From wristwatch, cell phone, PDA, GPS, pager; with Cingular's next
release
> of a Smartphone, I'll be down to two devices.
>
> (May start carrying a printer in the car).
>

I already do- one of those old Sipix thermal jobs from Geeks.com that run
on 4 AA batteries.

It's about the size of a paperback book and comes with drivers for Palm,
PocketPC and Win98/XP. At $20 I won't shed too many tears if the heat in
the car melts it into slag...

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John Richards

2006-11-01, 10:33 pm

"Notan" <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote in message news:45481595.9D3753CE@ddress.thatcanbespammed...
> John Richards wrote:
>
> It's a helluva lot easier to look at ones wrist than a cellphone display.
>
> Am I missing something?

It all depends on your lifestyle. I'm retired, and mostly I'm at home or
in my car, so clocks are readily available. The few times I'm away from
standard clocks and need to know the time, I just pull out my cellphone
for a quick look. It's no big deal, and I'd rather simplify my life by
carrying one less device.
Granted, when I go to a party or similar formal event, I wear a watch,
but that's strictly because it's a 'dressy' occasion.

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John Richards

2006-11-01, 10:33 pm

<dold@XReXXFashi.usenet.us.com> wrote in message news:eiahoc$i1l$2@bl
ue.rahul.net...
> In alt.cellular.cingular Notan <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:
>
>
>
> The point was that many people no longer wear a wristwatch. The cellphone
> is the only timepiece.
>
> The ease one requires in ability to reference a timepiece might also indicate
> one's slavery to minuscule amounts of time.
>
> I stopped wearing a wristwatch during public presentations because glancing
> at the watch to see how much time was left seemed like an indication of
> boredom with the topic and a desire for the end time to arrive sooner.
>
> That was true, but I didn't want to advertise it. ;-)

Yep. I was on a first date recently, and happened to glance at my watch.
I sure heard about it from her later! I should have opened my flip phone,
glanced at the time and said, "Sorry, it was vibrating, and I was expecting
an important call from my doctor." ;-)

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John Navas

2006-11-01, 10:33 pm

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:27:14 GMT, "John Richards"
<jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in
<mAd2h.17$9v5.5@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:

>Yep. I was on a first date recently, and happened to glance at my watch.
>I sure heard about it from her later! I should have opened my flip phone,
>glanced at the time and said, "Sorry, it was vibrating, and I was expecting
>an important call from my doctor." ;-)

How about not checking the time at all? Was it that boring? ;)

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Elmo P. Shagnasty

2006-11-01, 10:33 pm

In article <mAd2h.17$9v5.5@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
"John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:

> Yep. I was on a first date recently, and happened to glance at my watch.
> I sure heard about it from her later!

you dumped her, right?

geez.

John Richards

2006-11-02, 4:33 am

"John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote in message news:hfpik29mi035roh
gioa896i6eqme3rppnh@
4ax.com...
> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 03:27:14 GMT, "John Richards"
> <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in
> <mAd2h.17$9v5.5@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:
>
>
> How about not checking the time at all? Was it that boring? ;)

I was widowed earlier this year, and have started dating again
after 39 years of married life. So, I'm a bit green at this...
I was advised to keep a first meeting (for Starbucks coffee) at
30-60 minutes, so I didn't want to overstay my welcome.
I need to learn how to be less conspicuous at time checking. ;-)

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John Richards

2006-11-02, 4:33 am

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message news:elmop-AFBC7F. 22464501112006@nntp4
.usenetserver.com...
> In article <mAd2h.17$9v5.5@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
> "John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> you dumped her, right?
>
> geez.

Yeah, we didn't hit it off.

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decaturtxcowboy

2006-11-02, 7:33 am

John Navas wrote:
> No such problems with laser printers...
> B&W: Samsung ML-2510, HP Laserjet 1020
> Color: Samsung CLP-300

Different technology

Thurman

2006-11-02, 10:33 am

"John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in message
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> "John Navas" < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote in message
> news:hfpik29mi035roh
gioa896i6eqme3rppnh@
4ax.com...
>
> I was widowed earlier this year, and have started dating again
> after 39 years of married life. So, I'm a bit green at this...
> I was advised to keep a first meeting (for Starbucks coffee) at 30-60
> minutes, so I didn't want to overstay my welcome.
> I need to learn how to be less conspicuous at time checking. ;-)

Most cell phones have multiple alarms. Some like LG models allow a quick set
by elapsed time.

Moto Razr requires time to be set.

You can also the alarm tone.

You might set two alarms. The first could be dismissed as an emergency call
requesting your advice from John Kerry, if you wanted to stay longer.

John Navas

2006-11-02, 10:33 am

On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 08:25:53 -0600, "Thurman" <thurman@bigplanet.com>
wrote in <Tdn2h.217$AR2.58@newsfe04.lga>:

>
>"John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote in message
>news:oNe2h.54$r12.39@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>
>Most cell phones have multiple alarms. ...

Many (e.g., Moto V551) actually have only one alarm.

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