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FUCK-O-MATIC

2006-11-06, 4:33 am

XXXX Geoff Brozny XXXX is the reason you are XXXX listed. XXXX this is
part of his personal XXXX list. you need to XXXX contact Geoff Brozny
to see why he XXXX has a problem with you. XXXX.

Cletis.

Scelson. Ronnie@emailcommerce
solutions.org wrote:
> WHY IM I NOT REMOVED OFF SPAMHAUS LIST?
>
> In my case I am sending all optin email by choice
> I had a federal law passed to set guide lines for LEGAL mailing
> I mail 100% legal TO ALL U.S. List
> I mail 100% UK Legal and my list don=E2=80=99t even go to the U.K,
> I catch all bounces and honor removes.
> I do not sell the lists that I own.
> I have no reports of spam from 2003 till present.
> My carriers have showed LINFORD and Spamhaus that I do not have even
> one spam
> complaint
>
> To the readers of NANE sorry this is a bit long but I know you will
> enjoy =EF=81=8A
>
>
> Mr. Linford I am calling you out again to do your job.
> DO NOT KEEP RUNNING SCARED ANSWER THE LETTER!
> http:// emailcommercesolutio
...frence=3Drs.htm

> ANSWER WHAT IS BELOW!
>
> I have been requesting to be removed off spamhaus blacklist
> For the last four months. During this time you have TRIED to have my
> lines
> killed numerous times by various methods to no avail.
>
> The world has known me as The Cajun King Of Spam because at one time
> I was a major spammer. I do not deny this. But in 2002 I said that it
> is time to
> put an end to spam and to start doing LEGAL mailing and to have a law
> passed.
> I worked with, supported and testified before Congress to have the Can
> Spam Law of 2003 passed this is the same law that you were fighting to
> not have passed. Well, the spammers won. Now you just have a personal
> grudge against me and my company.
>
> If you check Google. From 2003 till now.
>
> By my IP:
> http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...roup%3A*.sight=

ings&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&hl=3Den&ie=3DISO-8859-1&oe=3DISO-8859-1&
>
> By Scelson
> http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...oup%3A*.sighti=

ngs&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&hl=3Den&ie=3DISO-8859-1&oe=3DISO-8859-1&
>
> By wwwllc.net
> http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...9-1&oe=3DISO-8=

859-1&q=3D%22wwwllc.net%22+group%3A*. sightings
>
> By Redlinewebservice
> http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...9-1&oe=3DISO-8=

859-1& q=3D%22redlinewebser
vice%22+group%3A*. sightings
>
> You will notice that I have NO spam referring from my network! Now lets
> look at Scott Richter who you did take off Spamhaus. hmmmm why..? Maybe
> for a large payment?
> (NOT MEANING TO PICK ON SCOTT BUT HE IS OFF THERE LIST AND WAS AS WELL
> KNOWN AS MY SELF SORRY SCOTT)
>
> Scott Richter
> http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...%22+group%3A*.=

sightings&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&hl=3Den&ie=3DISO-8859-1&oe=3DISO-8859-1&
>
> Notice he is still getting abuse reported..
>
> Shiskaa when still working for Spamhaus requested from me the following
> to get off the list.
>
> ! that I sent up a abuse email for Spamhaus. DONE
> 2 that all emails are sent optin
> DONE
> 3 that we send her a copy of our full list to show that the data is
> Optin DONE
>
> She then checked it and everything was done as she asked; as far as she
> could tell the data was all optin. She then sent it to someone else at
> Spamhaus to see if any of the traps were in the list. They found none.
>
> According to Susan everything that Spamhaus does, the ROSKO team votes
> on. NOT LINFORD. So does this mean that LINFORD is a front man and has
> no say in Spamhaus listings? I think so. If he knew what was going on
> then he would know that Susan did all the above. (I STILL HAVE HER FTP
> LOGS, CALL LOGS AND EMAILS TO CONFIRM THIS).
>
> When I look at Spamhaus I see a GREAT company that is trying to make
> good on the Internet. When I look at LINFORD I see some one who has a
> lot of hot air, and does not know what is going on around him. Most of
> the spamhaus blacklist is based from.
> http://cbl.abuseat.org/ Is most of Spamhaus blacklist and is made from
> real abuse emails that are sent. The ROSKO is supposed to be a list
> (WHAT MAKES SPAMHAUS) of all the evil spammers in the world. Well when
> you look at most of the people on this list you find LEGAL MAILERS and
> Companies who provide service for legal mailers, even in the top 10.
> Anyone can report a legal mailer. Their info is easy to find. BUT REAL
> SPAMMERS, the ones who steal your bank account, or the ones who do
> porn, or the ones who steal your computers, the real bad ones are not
> listed. WHY IS THIS? Maybe it is all about the money for Spamhaus,
> Maybe they just can=E2=80=99t track real Spammers so they list what they =

can
> track.
>
> Linford says he has proof of me spamming <LMAO> but could not show my
> carriers because he was working with the FBI on me. PLEASE!! Linford
> would not have tried to shut me down and not show proof if he had any.
> I am also this brave and cocky be cause I know there is no proof
> because I have no OFFSHORE SERVERS, PROXIES, or send any email that is
> not legal. Anything otherwise would not be of interest to such
> agencies.
>
> Linford also says that I hired someone to do a DOS attack on Spamhaus.
> Now the way I can break encryption, networks, and spam filters, do you
> really think I would hire someone to attack them? What a joke. I have
> not, to present ever attacked or hired someone to attack their network.
> I think that Stevie just was mad that he can cut people off but
> doesn=E2=80=99t like to be cut off. STEVIE ALSO LIKES TO TRY TO USE US LA=

W TO
> PUT SPAMMERS AWAY WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING HE DOESN=E2=80=99T LIKE. BUT WHE=

N HE
> IS WRONG HE SAYS I AM NOT IN THE US THEY CANT TOUCH ME.
>
> Sounds to me like Stevie is not on the side of his company, because he
> is not following there own policies and removing after 6 months. Does
> not abide by US laws, his companies polices, and does not even know
> what his company is doing. He is nothing more then a front man and is
> on his own side not the mailers or the anti.
>
> I think that if more people went back in Linford history they will find
> out a lot about spamhaus members address phone numbers websites and
> much more. Just by decrypting all the past messages from 98 till now
> from Linford. Just encrypt his name and do a NANAE search =EF=81=8A have =

fun.
>
> I know that you are about to see more people filling law suits with
> Spamhaus, their volunteers, and the COMMON CARRIERS that use them. If
> Spamhaus keeps listing people like my self that has NOT broken any laws
> US or UK. Let us remember here that LINFORD does not make the laws nor
> is he judge and executioner. People=E2=80=99s email addresses (AOL,
> EARTHLINK, HOTMAIL, MSN, ETC) are there private messages not for the
> Carriers to read and sensor nor should it be for LINFORD to just bully
> on companies to send mail the way he sees fit. For the people of the US
> this is your email, your privacy, your message. It is up to the person
> to do with there email what they see fit. Not some foreign Saddam,
> err.. sorry, I mean Linford, to decide what you get from which legal
> companies.
>
> Spamhaus says they have free speech as a anti (funny he is not in US to
> declare free speech) But so do the Legal mailers of the US. So why is
> it when people put sites up like SPAMHAUS SUCKS they have the sites
> shut down. This is not free speech=E2=80=A6 this is a guy from the UK wit=

h a
> ego trip.
>
> Antis of the world I want you to fight REAL spam and help put a end to
> it. I support you guys 100%. I just ask to open your eyes and minds to
> what you are fighting for. Not to make decsions without looking at the
> big picture. I am hated because Linford says so. But why is that? Look
> at my past from 2003 till now.
>
> Lets also remember all the SPAM AOL and Hotmail got until they all
> started nailing the REAL spammers and working with, teaching, and
> helping Legal mailers do it the right way. These major providers have
> all had a major reduction in spam from 2003 till now and none of them
> need Spamhaus. Why? Because the went after the real spammers!
>
> By the way I looked at the link for E360
>
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups? q=...oup%3A*.sighti=

ngs
> &start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&num=3D100&hl=3Den&lr=3D&as_drrb=3Dq&as_mind=3D1&as=

_minm=3D1
> &as_miny=3D1981&as_maxd=3D2&as_maxm=3D10&as_maxy=3D2006&safe=3Doff&filter=

=3D0
>
> Your so called proof <LMAO>. I looked at the last 2 months on them and
> all I see is mostly 2 people doing all this bitching Screwtape III and
> unicorn.us.com
>
> And all the emails that they are bitching about is sent 100% UK and US
> legal so if this is all you have to fight e360 your need more lawyers
> on your side. It looks more to me like 2 people who don=E2=80=99t want to=

be
> removed and just like to XXXXX so I say let them XXXXX let them vent
> makes them feel better but this is no reason to list or shutdown e360
> this is just 2 bored people that have nothing better to do, Or that are
> trying to make NANE look like e360 is some bad company.
>
> I think that it is time for Linford to step down and give his passion
> to a real women a women with balls and honor ,let someone who knows how
> to tell real spam, follow there own companies policies, and run that
> company right before Mr. Linford destroys it. Like Susan Gunn maybe.
> She=E2=80=99s was smart enough to leave before it gets too deep and she c=

ant
> leave. I think she left because she did not want to get caught up in
> us, e360, and whoever else will be suing Spamhaus.
>
> Also who ever World Pills is. This is not me and has 0 ties to me or my
> company in any way. Do more home work! Those postings are bullshit.
>
>
> Thanks for your time in this matter. I expect I=E2=80=99ll be hearing fr=

om
> you.
> Ronald Scelson
> AKA CajunKingOfSpam lol got to love that title (thank you for that)


abdelhalim maklous

2006-11-06, 7:33 am


"XXXX-O-MATIC" < sjsobol1234567@yahoo
.com> wrote in message =
news:1162798158.523137.246860@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
XXXX Geoff Brozny XXXX is the reason you are XXXX listed. XXXX this is
part of his personal XXXX list. you need to XXXX contact Geoff Brozny
to see why he XXXX has a problem with you. XXXX.

Cletis.

Scelson. Ronnie@emailcommerce
solutions.org wrote:
> WHY IM I NOT REMOVED OFF SPAMHAUS LIST?
>
> In my case I am sending all optin email by choice
> I had a federal law passed to set guide lines for LEGAL mailing
> I mail 100% legal TO ALL U.S. List
> I mail 100% UK Legal and my list don=E2=80=99t even go to the U.K,
> I catch all bounces and honor removes.
> I do not sell the lists that I own.
> I have no reports of spam from 2003 till present.
> My carriers have showed LINFORD and Spamhaus that I do not have even
> one spam
> complaint
>
> To the readers of NANE sorry this is a bit long but I know you will
> enjoy =EF=81=8A
>
>
> Mr. Linford I am calling you out again to do your job.
> DO NOT KEEP RUNNING SCARED ANSWER THE LETTER!
> http:// emailcommercesolutio
...frence=3Drs.htm

> ANSWER WHAT IS BELOW!
>
> I have been requesting to be removed off spamhaus blacklist
> For the last four months. During this time you have TRIED to have my
> lines
> killed numerous times by various methods to no avail.
>
> The world has known me as The Cajun King Of Spam because at one time
> I was a major spammer. I do not deny this. But in 2002 I said that it
> is time to
> put an end to spam and to start doing LEGAL mailing and to have a law
> passed.
> I worked with, supported and testified before Congress to have the Can
> Spam Law of 2003 passed this is the same law that you were fighting to
> not have passed. Well, the spammers won. Now you just have a personal
> grudge against me and my company.
>
> If you check Google. From 2003 till now.
>
> By my IP:
> =

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...roup%3A*.sight=
ings&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&hl=3Den&ie=3DISO-8859-1&oe=3DISO-8859-1&
>
> By Scelson
> =

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...oup%3A*.sighti=
ngs&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&hl=3Den&ie=3DISO-8859-1&oe=3DISO-8859-1&
>
> By wwwllc.net
> =

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...9-1&oe=3DISO-8=
859-1&q=3D%22wwwllc.net%22+group%3A*. sightings
>
> By Redlinewebservice
> =

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...9-1&oe=3DISO-8=
859-1& q=3D%22redlinewebser
vice%22+group%3A*. sightings
>
> You will notice that I have NO spam referring from my network! Now =

lets
> look at Scott Richter who you did take off Spamhaus. hmmmm why..? =

Maybe

> for a large payment?
> (NOT MEANING TO PICK ON SCOTT BUT HE IS OFF THERE LIST AND WAS AS WELL
> KNOWN AS MY SELF SORRY SCOTT)
>
> Scott Richter
> =

http://groups.google.com/groups/sea...%22+group%3A*.=
sightings&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&hl=3Den&ie=3DISO-8859-1&oe=3DISO-8859-1&
>
> Notice he is still getting abuse reported..
>
> Shiskaa when still working for Spamhaus requested from me the =

following
> to get off the list.
>
> ! that I sent up a abuse email for Spamhaus. DONE
> 2 that all emails are sent optin
> DONE
> 3 that we send her a copy of our full list to show that the data is
> Optin DONE
>
> She then checked it and everything was done as she asked; as far as =

she
> could tell the data was all optin. She then sent it to someone else at
> Spamhaus to see if any of the traps were in the list. They found none.
>
> According to Susan everything that Spamhaus does, the ROSKO team votes
> on. NOT LINFORD. So does this mean that LINFORD is a front man and =

has
> no say in Spamhaus listings? I think so. If he knew what was going =

on
> then he would know that Susan did all the above. (I STILL HAVE HER =

FTP
> LOGS, CALL LOGS AND EMAILS TO CONFIRM THIS).
>
> When I look at Spamhaus I see a GREAT company that is trying to make
> good on the Internet. When I look at LINFORD I see some one who has a
> lot of hot air, and does not know what is going on around him. Most of
> the spamhaus blacklist is based from.
> http://cbl.abuseat.org/ Is most of Spamhaus blacklist and is made from
> real abuse emails that are sent. The ROSKO is supposed to be a list
> (WHAT MAKES SPAMHAUS) of all the evil spammers in the world. Well when
> you look at most of the people on this list you find LEGAL MAILERS and
> Companies who provide service for legal mailers, even in the top 10.
> Anyone can report a legal mailer. Their info is easy to find. BUT REAL
> SPAMMERS, the ones who steal your bank account, or the ones who do
> porn, or the ones who steal your computers, the real bad ones are not
> listed. WHY IS THIS? Maybe it is all about the money for Spamhaus,
> Maybe they just can=E2=80=99t track real Spammers so they list what =

they can
> track.
>
> Linford says he has proof of me spamming <LMAO> but could not show my
> carriers because he was working with the FBI on me. PLEASE!! Linford
> would not have tried to shut me down and not show proof if he had any.
> I am also this brave and cocky be cause I know there is no proof
> because I have no OFFSHORE SERVERS, PROXIES, or send any email that is
> not legal. Anything otherwise would not be of interest to such
> agencies.
>
> Linford also says that I hired someone to do a DOS attack on Spamhaus.
> Now the way I can break encryption, networks, and spam filters, do =

you
> really think I would hire someone to attack them? What a joke. I have
> not, to present ever attacked or hired someone to attack their =

network.
> I think that Stevie just was mad that he can cut people off but
> doesn=E2=80=99t like to be cut off. STEVIE ALSO LIKES TO TRY TO USE US =

LAW TO
> PUT SPAMMERS AWAY WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING HE DOESN=E2=80=99T LIKE. BUT =

WHEN HE
> IS WRONG HE SAYS I AM NOT IN THE US THEY CANT TOUCH ME.
>
> Sounds to me like Stevie is not on the side of his company, because he
> is not following there own policies and removing after 6 months. Does
> not abide by US laws, his companies polices, and does not even know
> what his company is doing. He is nothing more then a front man and is
> on his own side not the mailers or the anti.
>
> I think that if more people went back in Linford history they will =

find
> out a lot about spamhaus members address phone numbers websites and
> much more. Just by decrypting all the past messages from 98 till now
> from Linford. Just encrypt his name and do a NANAE search =EF=81=8A =

have fun.
>
> I know that you are about to see more people filling law suits with
> Spamhaus, their volunteers, and the COMMON CARRIERS that use them. If
> Spamhaus keeps listing people like my self that has NOT broken any =

laws
> US or UK. Let us remember here that LINFORD does not make the laws nor
> is he judge and executioner. People=E2=80=99s email addresses (AOL,
> EARTHLINK, HOTMAIL, MSN, ETC) are there private messages not for the
> Carriers to read and sensor nor should it be for LINFORD to just bully
> on companies to send mail the way he sees fit. For the people of the =

US
> this is your email, your privacy, your message. It is up to the person
> to do with there email what they see fit. Not some foreign Saddam,
> err.. sorry, I mean Linford, to decide what you get from which legal
> companies.
>
> Spamhaus says they have free speech as a anti (funny he is not in US =

to
> declare free speech) But so do the Legal mailers of the US. So why is
> it when people put sites up like SPAMHAUS SUCKS they have the sites
> shut down. This is not free speech=E2=80=A6 this is a guy from the UK =

with a
> ego trip.
>
> Antis of the world I want you to fight REAL spam and help put a end to
> it. I support you guys 100%. I just ask to open your eyes and minds to
> what you are fighting for. Not to make decsions without looking at the
> big picture. I am hated because Linford says so. But why is that? Look
> at my past from 2003 till now.
>
> Lets also remember all the SPAM AOL and Hotmail got until they all
> started nailing the REAL spammers and working with, teaching, and
> helping Legal mailers do it the right way. These major providers have
> all had a major reduction in spam from 2003 till now and none of them
> need Spamhaus. Why? Because the went after the real spammers!
>
> By the way I looked at the link for E360
>
>
>
> =

http://groups.google.com/groups? q=...oup%3A*.sighti=
ngs
> =

&start=3D0&scoring=3Dd&num=3D100&hl=3Den&lr=3D&as_drrb=3Dq&as_mind=3D1&as=
_minm=3D1
> =

&as_miny=3D1981&as_maxd=3D2&as_maxm=3D10&as_maxy=3D2006&safe=3Doff&filter=
=3D0
>
> Your so called proof <LMAO>. I looked at the last 2 months on them and
> all I see is mostly 2 people doing all this bitching Screwtape III and
> unicorn.us.com
>
> And all the emails that they are bitching about is sent 100% UK and US
> legal so if this is all you have to fight e360 your need more lawyers
> on your side. It looks more to me like 2 people who don=E2=80=99t want =

to be
> removed and just like to XXXXX so I say let them XXXXX let them vent
> makes them feel better but this is no reason to list or shutdown e360
> this is just 2 bored people that have nothing better to do, Or that =

are
> trying to make NANE look like e360 is some bad company.
>
> I think that it is time for Linford to step down and give his passion
> to a real women a women with balls and honor ,let someone who knows =

how
> to tell real spam, follow there own companies policies, and run that
> company right before Mr. Linford destroys it. Like Susan Gunn maybe.
> She=E2=80=99s was smart enough to leave before it gets too deep and =

she cant
> leave. I think she left because she did not want to get caught up in
> us, e360, and whoever else will be suing Spamhaus.
>
> Also who ever World Pills is. This is not me and has 0 ties to me or =

my
> company in any way. Do more home work! Those postings are bullshit.
>
>
> Thanks for your time in this matter. I expect I=E2=80=99ll be hearing =

from
> you.
> Ronald Scelson
> AKA CajunKingOfSpam lol got to love that title (thank you for that)


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