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NEWS: Mobile internet is still a turn-off
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 4:33 am |
| <http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/..._surv
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Most punters still find mobile internet usage to be a frustrating
experience they'd rather avoid.
Despite investment by operators in services such as i-mode and
Vodafone Live, 73 per cent of respondents to a new survey said don't
access the net from their mobile. Slow-loading pages (38 per cent)
and navigation difficulties (27 per cent) were among the reasons
cited why people would rather hook up to the net using a PC rather
than a phone. A quarter (25 per cent of sites were unavailable to
those with mobile phones.
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-08, 7:33 am |
| John Navas wrote:
> <http://www.theregister.com/2006/08/..._surv
ey/>
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> Most punters still find mobile internet usage to be a frustrating
> experience they'd rather avoid.
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> Despite investment by operators in services such as i-mode and
> Vodafone Live, 73 per cent of respondents to a new survey said don't
> access the net from their mobile. Slow-loading pages (38 per cent)
> and navigation difficulties (27 per cent) were among the reasons
> cited why people would rather hook up to the net using a PC rather
> than a phone. A quarter (25 per cent of sites were unavailable to
> those with mobile phones.
Old news...I believe I posted something like that from a trade magazine
some time ago. I recall that some guy was pitching it with the same
starry eyed look of the internet bubble days.
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| Jack Zwick 2006-08-08, 7:33 am |
| In article <uP_Bg.2616$%j7.1256@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
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> Old news...I believe I posted something like that from a trade magazine
> some time ago. I recall that some guy was pitching it with the same
> starry eyed look of the internet bubble days.
Squintavision on a 2" screen with reduced Frame rates, is not something
thats an attraction.
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| AZ Nomad 2006-08-08, 10:33 am |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:45:30 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote:
>John Navas wrote:
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>Old news...I believe I posted something like that from a trade magazine
>some time ago. I recall that some guy was pitching it with the same
>starry eyed look of the internet bubble days.
Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
unusual.
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 12:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:01:29 GMT, AZ Nomad <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com>
wrote in <slrnedh69u.uk0.aznomad@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>:
>Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
>Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
>5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
>unusual.
Indeed. Causes of this problem:
1. High latency of even 3G data. Finally being addressed in 3.5G.
2. Slow phone processors. Unfortunately, more speed burns more power.
3. Slow WAP gateways. Shame on cellular carriers.
4. Slow WAP servers. Providers need to get serious.
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| Thomas T. Veldhouse 2006-08-08, 12:33 pm |
| In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <uP_Bg.2616$%j7.1256@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>,
> DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote:
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>
> Squintavision on a 2" screen with reduced Frame rates, is not something
> thats an attraction.
The Verizon EVDO offering, even on the smaller screens [such as my VX8300]
does a pretty damn good job!
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| Thomas T. Veldhouse 2006-08-08, 12:33 pm |
| In alt.cellular.sprintpcs AZ Nomad <aznomad@pmunogebox.com> wrote:
>
> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
> unusual.
Upgrade to EVDO and you will change your mind. I recall it being pretty fast
on Sprint and it is quite fast on Verizon as well. Just surfing the sites I
am used to like CNN is now very fast.
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 12:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:56:28 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
<0n3Cg.11074$A87.3144@fe19.usenetserver.com>:
>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>The Verizon EVDO offering, even on the smaller screens [such as my VX8300]
>does a pretty damn good job!
Your eyes must be way better than mine.
I find the small picture to be a bad joke.
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 12:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:57:35 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
<3o3Cg.11075$A87.7052@fe19.usenetserver.com>:
>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs AZ Nomad <aznomad@pmunogebox.com> wrote:
>
>Upgrade to EVDO and you will change your mind. I recall it being pretty fast
>on Sprint and it is quite fast on Verizon as well. Just surfing the sites I
>am used to like CNN is now very fast.
Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
sluggish on TCP/IP connections. HSDPA is a good deal snappier. EV-DO
Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
vaporware.
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| Thomas T. Veldhouse 2006-08-08, 3:33 pm |
| In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:56:28 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
> <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <0n3Cg.11074$A87.3144@fe19.usenetserver.com>:
>
>
>
> Your eyes must be way better than mine.
> I find the small picture to be a bad joke.
>
With contacts I do better than 20/20.
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| Thomas T. Veldhouse 2006-08-08, 3:33 pm |
| In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:57:35 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
> <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
> <3o3Cg.11075$A87.7052@fe19.usenetserver.com>:
>
>
> Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
> sluggish on TCP/IP connections. HSDPA is a good deal snappier. EV-DO
> Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
> vaporware.
>
Ah yes ... but I have EVDO available to me now from two providers and HSDPA is
not available to me at all. Further, Rev A is not vaporware, it is simply not
deployed yet.
Right from the source:
http://www.qualcomm.com/technology/1xev-do/revA.html
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| AZ Nomad wrote:
> Why should you call it old news when the problems still exist?
> Cell phone web access is still incredibly slow.
> 5 minutes just to go through four web pages and lookup one phone number isn't
> unusual.
What technology are you using? EV-DO is very fast, and HSDPA, while
slower than EV-DO, and not as widely available, is still not as slow as
you say.
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| Anon E. Muss 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:58:49 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote:
>In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>
>With contacts I do better than 20/20.
That explains a lot.
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| AZ Nomad 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:23:16 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>AZ Nomad wrote:
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>What technology are you using? EV-DO is very fast, and HSDPA, while
>slower than EV-DO, and not as widely available, is still not as slow as
>you say.
3G
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| John Navas wrote:
> Current EV-DO is certainly better than CDMA 1xRTT, but is still pretty
> EV-DO
> Rev A is claimed to be improved over current EV-DO, but is still
> vaporware.
We shall how valid your claim is in a few months when Sprint rolls out
EV-DO Rev A
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| AZ Nomad 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:46:48 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote:
>John Navas wrote:
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>We shall how valid your claim is in a few months when Sprint rolls out
>EV-DO Rev A
It is irrelevent to what people have experienced over the last 3 years.
I'm sure that everything is going to be wonderfull at some future date but
that doesn't make things any better right now with the phone I have right
now.
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 19:58:49 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
<Z16Cg.22555$F8.6096@fe08.usenetserver.com>:
>In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>With contacts I do better than 20/20.
With glasses (or contacts) I do too, but focusing that close is
nonetheless a problem for these aged eyes. :)
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 20:06:12 GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
<veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in
<U86Cg.63822$T01.12892@fe82.usenetserver.com>:
>In alt.cellular.verizon John Navas < spamfilter0@navasgro
up.com> wrote:
>
>Ah yes ... but I have EVDO available to me now from two providers and HSDPA is
>not available to me at all. Further, Rev A is not vaporware, it is simply not
>deployed yet.
That's vaporware.
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 00:18:27 GMT, AZ Nomad <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com>
wrote in <slrnediaes.i15.aznomad@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>:
>On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 23:46:48 GMT, DecaturTxCowboy <nono@no.no> wrote:
>
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>It is irrelevent to what people have experienced over the last 3 years.
>I'm sure that everything is going to be wonderfull at some future date but
>that doesn't make things any better right now with the phone I have right
>now.
Yep. All this RSN (real soon now) stuff is just meaningless handwaving.
What matters is what you can get NOW.
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| John Navas 2006-08-08, 10:33 pm |
| On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:23:16 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote in < 44d8f2b8$0$96150$742
ec2ed@news.sonic.net>:
>AZ Nomad wrote:
>
>
>What technology are you using? EV-DO is very fast, and HSDPA, while
>slower than EV-DO, and not as widely available, is still not as slow as
>you say.
HSDPA is actually faster than EV-DO, and more to the point, has much
less latency, which can be more important than speed when accessing
complex WAP and Web pages.
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-09, 10:33 am |
| Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> HSDPA is not available to me at all.
> Further, Rev A is not vaporware, it is simply not deployed yet.
John Navas replied:
That's vaporware.
John Navas wrote:
> Yep. All this RSN (real soon now) stuff is just meaningless handwaving.
> What matters is what you can get NOW.
I can't get HSDPA, ergo...its vaporware.
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| Scott 2006-08-09, 10:33 pm |
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"DecaturTxCowboy" <nono@no.no> wrote in message
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> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
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> John Navas replied:
> That's vaporware.
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> John Navas wrote:
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> I can't get HSDPA, ergo...its vaporware.
I can't get extended GSM- it's vaporware, too.
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| DecaturTxCowboy 2006-08-09, 10:33 pm |
| Scott wrote:
> I can't get extended GSM- it's vaporware, too.
TOUCHE! That's funny!
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