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Re: iPhone? We don't need no steenking iPhone!
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| Balsof Steele 2007-01-13, 3:33 pm |
| Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article < ehsdq2h0g0t4rr74523q
ilkesolcfro9vc@4ax.com>, Bill
> <Bill@SunSouthWest.com> wrote:
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> The only thing wrong with it is that it's Cingular-only. The
> technology, ease of use, and overall user experience is far beyond any
> other cell phone manufacturer.
Its a product thats 6 months away and you're already claiming better
usability? Do you know how entirely full of shit you are?
How much did apple pay you to write this brainless drivel?
JS
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-13, 10:33 pm |
| In article < 45a96179$0$4831$8826
0bb3@free.teranews.com>, Todd Allcock
< elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
> I think Balsof is clearly showing his anti-Apple Bias, but to put it in
> perspective, the Newton's handwriting recognition always worked in the
> demos too! ;-)
It still works on my MP130 and MP2000.
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| Tinman 2007-01-14, 10:33 am |
| "Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article < 45a96179$0$4831$8826
0bb3@free.teranews.com>, Todd Allcock
> < elecconnec@AmericaOn
Line.com> wrote:
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> It still works on my MP130 and MP2000.
LOL. How many versions of the Newton came before the 130?
I owned the original Newton (the day it came out) and it worked *nothing*
like the scripted and rehearsed demos showed it to be. Not even close.
By using the Newton 130/2000 as your argument you have practically implied
that the iPhone won't be any different (i.e., it'll take three versions to
become usable).
And even after "reviewers" get hold of the iPhone, I still won't trust it
till I hear the user reviews (and I want one; just being realistic). Plenty
of great reviews on CNet for crappy products--but the user reviews will
often tell the other side of the story. That said--ironically--I just
finished reading CNet's "Thirteen reasons to doubt the iPhone hype."
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Mike
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| Charles 2007-01-14, 12:33 pm |
| In article <50v39kF1gh06cU1@mid.individual.net>, Tinman <ask@for.it>
wrote:
> I owned the original Newton (the day it came out) and it worked *nothing*
> like the scripted and rehearsed demos showed it to be. Not even close.
>
> By using the Newton 130/2000 as your argument you have practically implied
> that the iPhone won't be any different (i.e., it'll take three versions to
> become usable).
I also found that the Newton did not work up to hype and returned it.
However the Newton was not hyped by Steve Jobs. It was a product that
came about after he was forced out of the company. And he "Steved" it
when he returned. I have been very happy with the products that Steve
has hyped, including the Mac and the iPod, so that has created trust
for me. He has a good track record. Still, I won't be an early adaptor,
and it also makes sense to wait for user reviews, and even the second
rev.
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Charles
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-14, 3:33 pm |
| In article <50v39kF1gh06cU1@mid.individual.net>, Tinman <ask@for.it>
wrote:
> And even after "reviewers" get hold of the iPhone, I still won't trust it
> till I hear the user reviews (and I want one; just being realistic). Plenty
> of great reviews on CNet for crappy products--but the user reviews will
> often tell the other side of the story. That said--ironically--I just
> finished reading CNet's "Thirteen reasons to doubt the iPhone hype."
Be prepared to eat your words in June.
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| Tinman 2007-01-14, 3:33 pm |
| "Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article <50v39kF1gh06cU1@mid.individual.net>, Tinman <ask@for.it>
> wrote:
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> Be prepared to eat your words in June.
Which words would they be, specifically?
You gotta love... err, "laugh at" blind faith. <chuckle>
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Mike
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-14, 3:33 pm |
| In article <50vf2aF1gi92bU1@mid.individual.net>, Tinman <ask@for.it>
wrote:
> Which words would they be, specifically?
>
> You gotta love... err, "laugh at" blind faith. <chuckle>
I have more faith in Apple products than something branded Microsoft.
In recent years, they've done everything they said they would and more.
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"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article <50vf2aF1gi92bU1@mid.individual.net>, Tinman <ask@for.it>
> wrote:
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> I have more faith in Apple products than something branded Microsoft.
> In recent years, they've done everything they said they would and more.
What's disappointed me most about Apple is not what they do, but what they
prevented me from doing.
They made a call early on with the original Mac to close the box and the OS.
There were pluses and minuses to that decision; it allowed them to dictate
everything on the platform, but it limited what third parties could bring to
the table. I think that if they had opened the box up earlier they would
have significantly more market share, but that's just opinion.
The iPhone has an OS and the ability to do a lot more than it does now. If
Jobs decides that he knows everything that every user wants and continues to
keep developers out I'll be disappointed. He'll still carve out a nice
niche for himself though. It's all a matter of what you want in a phone. If
it's perfect for you, great... just don't assume it's perfect for everyone
else.
What I don't understand is why the MacTribe seems to think it's impossible
for Apple to make any mistake. They do a lot of great things but they're
not perfect.
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-14, 10:33 pm |
| In article < G7adnW10eN9gNzfYnZ2d
nUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast
.com>, Carl
<cengman7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What I don't understand is why the MacTribe seems to think it's impossible
> for Apple to make any mistake. They do a lot of great things but they're
> not perfect.
They're still far better than Microsoft.
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| John Richards 2007-01-14, 10:33 pm |
| "Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message news:140120071440326
517%rag@nospam.techline.com...
> In article < G7adnW10eN9gNzfYnZ2d
nUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast
.com>, Carl
> <cengman7@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> They're still far better than Microsoft.
Market share tells a different story.
How do you account for the fact that Apple's Mac has only about 5%
of the personal computer market?
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John Richards
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-14, 10:33 pm |
| In article <oNyqh.34298$Gr2.11015@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, John
Richards <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
> Market share tells a different story.
> How do you account for the fact that Apple's Mac has only about 5%
> of the personal computer market?
Britney Spears has sold a lot of records. That doesn't mean she's a
great singer.
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| Randall Ainsworth <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in
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282%rag@nospam.techline.com:
> In article <oNyqh.34298$Gr2.11015@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, John
> Richards <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
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> Britney Spears has sold a lot of records. That doesn't mean she's a
> great singer.
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She sure knows how to get out of a limo
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"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article <oNyqh.34298$Gr2.11015@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, John
> Richards <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
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> Britney Spears has sold a lot of records. That doesn't mean she's a
> great singer.
OFPS.
MS and Apple interpret the market very differently.
Many of the same things that Apple did with the Mac to make
it what is it also limited the potential market share that it could
achieve. Jobs was fine with that. He sacrificed market share
for total control of the platform and charges a premium price
for buying into his vision of what it should be.
Not everyone does. So?
The same is true of the iPhone.
I still don't understand why if someone says the iPhone isn't the ultimate
achievement of mankind they are tagged as a troglodyte.
It's not a cure for cancer, a teleportation machine, or true artificial
intelligence.
It's just a cool phone.
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| In article < 140120071323474500%r
ag@nospam.techline.com>,
Randall Ainsworth <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
> In article <50vf2aF1gi92bU1@mid.individual.net>, Tinman <ask@for.it>
> wrote:
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> I have more faith in Apple products than something branded Microsoft.
> In recent years, they've done everything they said they would and more.
I cringe everytime I have to use Windows XP on my Mac. Can't see how
people put up with it.
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| In article <oNyqh.34298$Gr2.11015@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>,
"John Richards" <jr70@blackhole.invalid> wrote:
> "Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
> news:140120071440326
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> Market share tells a different story.
> How do you account for the fact that Apple's Mac has only about 5%
> of the personal computer market?
Lemmings and marketing. Apple stumbled some years back and Microsoft
jumped on it.
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-14, 10:33 pm |
| In article < e82dnWUC6oAvUjfYnZ2d
nUVZ_h63nZ2d@comcast
.com>, Carl
<cengman7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> MS and Apple interpret the market very differently.
For which I am thankful.
> Many of the same things that Apple did with the Mac to make
> it what is it also limited the potential market share that it could
> achieve. Jobs was fine with that. He sacrificed market share
> for total control of the platform and charges a premium price
> for buying into his vision of what it should be.
The price difference isn't so drastic any more.
> I still don't understand why if someone says the iPhone isn't the ultimate
> achievement of mankind they are tagged as a troglodyte.
The guy claimed that it was not innovative. There's no one else even
comes close.
> It's not a cure for cancer, a teleportation machine, or true artificial
> intelligence.
>
> It's just a cool phone.
Yup, and I'm sticking with my TMO RAZR.
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-14, 10:33 pm |
| In article <labolide-19B113.18251014012007@news.giganews.com>, Kurt
<labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
> I cringe everytime I have to use Windows XP on my Mac. Can't see how
> people put up with it.
I have to use XP at work. At the end of the day, I feel dirty.
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-14, 10:33 pm |
| In article <labolide-39FB40.18265314012007@news.giganews.com>, Kurt
<labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
> Lemmings and marketing. Apple stumbled some years back and Microsoft
> jumped on it.
No, they each chose different paths.
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| In article < 140120071913327613%r
ag@nospam.techline.com>,
Randall Ainsworth <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
> In article <labolide-19B113.18251014012007@news.giganews.com>, Kurt
> <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
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> I have to use XP at work. At the end of the day, I feel dirty.
I feel dirty and confused.
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| In article < 140120071914039448%r
ag@nospam.techline.com>,
Randall Ainsworth <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
> In article <labolide-39FB40.18265314012007@news.giganews.com>, Kurt
> <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
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> No, they each chose different paths.
Sculley stumbled.
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"Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article < 140120071914039448%r
ag@nospam.techline.com>,
> Randall Ainsworth <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote:
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> Sculley stumbled.
Apple's choices early on limited the market share it could get. If market
share
is youir goal, then Jobs screwed up in a number of places.
That wasn't necessarily his goal though.
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| "Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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> In article < e82dnWUC6oAvUjfYnZ2d
nUVZ_h63nZ2d@comcast
.com>, Carl
> <cengman7@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> For which I am thankful.
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> The price difference isn't so drastic any more.
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> The guy claimed that it was not innovative. There's no one else even
> comes close.
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The only true innovation is the multi touch screen. After that everything
on the phone has been done before. Even Visual Voicemail was done by
someone else with that exact same name (and unless they worked with the same
company they can expect to be sued for that too). Netfront has the zoom
feature for browsing the internet on Windows Mobile. Every Pocket PC ever
made has basically everything else.
I'd really like to know how this thing is innovative? Don't get me wrong
it's cool, and will make other PPC manufacturers better themselves, for that
I am glad.
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| Balsof Steele 2007-01-17, 10:33 pm |
| Randall Ainsworth wrote:
> In article < G7adnW10eN9gNzfYnZ2d
nUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast
.com>, Carl
> <cengman7@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> They're still far better than Microsoft.
"better" at what, exactly?
I think Steve Jobs is better at locating LSD than Bill Gates...
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| Kevin Weaver 2007-01-17, 10:33 pm |
| With all the money Bill Gates has, They deliver it. No need to look for
it. :)
Balsof Steele wrote:
> Randall Ainsworth wrote:
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> "better" at what, exactly?
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> I think Steve Jobs is better at locating LSD than Bill Gates...
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| Randall Ainsworth 2007-01-17, 10:33 pm |
| In article <wdxrh.8574$hr4.1440@fe12.usenetserver.com>, Balsof Steele
<balsofsteele@gmail.com> wrote:
> "better" at what, exactly?
>
> I think Steve Jobs is better at locating LSD than Bill Gates...
OK, let mom have her e-Machine back now.
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