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Ouch! Time Warner Denounces other Cell Phones!

Bill Gates

2007-11-16, 10:33 pm

Major news which could very well spell the end of Noika, Motorola,
Samsung, LG and on and on... especially within the very non-competitive
Cell Market. It looks like the iPhone has scored a massive hit, not only
in record sales but by the people that own the content.

"Nobody wants to use an "non-ipod" in their Phones, we all know that,
but now the leading content company says the same thing is going to
happen to all other MEDIA types."

Wow!

From Time Warner's Chief:

"You need to look no further than Apple's iPhone to see how fast,
brilliantly written software presented on a beautifully designed device
with a spectacular user interface will throw all the accepted notions
about pricing, billing platforms and brand loyalty right out the window.

And let me remind you, the genesis of the iPhone is the iPod and iTunes
- a music device and music service that consumers love."

Quote from --- CEO Edgar Bronfman, Head of Warner Music

Wow What a SMART GUY!

The boss of Warner Music has made a rare public confession that the
music industry has to take some of the blame for the rise of p2p file
sharing.

Speaking at the GSMA Mobile Asia Congress in Macau, Edgar Bronfman told
mobile operators that they must not make the same mistake that the music
industry made.

"We used to fool ourselves,' he said. "We used to think our content was
perfect just exactly as it was. We expected our business would remain
blissfully unaffected even as the world of interactivity, constant
connection and file sharing was exploding. And of course we were wrong.
How were we wrong? By standing still or moving at a glacial pace, we
inadvertently went to war with consumers by denying them what they
wanted and could otherwise find and as a result of course, consumers
won."

Mobile operators risk the same, he said. Fewer than 10% of mobile owners
buy music on their handset, the vast majority of which is ringtones.

"The sad truth is that most of what consumers are being offered today on
the mobile platform is boring, banal and basic," he said. "People want a
more interesting form of mobile music content. They want it to be easy
to buy with a single click - yes, a single click, not a dozen. And they
want access to it, quickly and easily, wherever they are. 24/7. Any
player in the mobile value chain who thinks they can provide less than a
great experience for consumers and remain competitive is fooling
themselves."

Bronfman suggested that mobile companies have much to learn from Apple,
despite being critical of and iTunes in the past.

"For years now, Warner Music has been offering a choice to consumers at
Apple's iTunes store the option to purchase something more than just
single tracks, which constitute the mainstay of that store's sales," he
explained. "By packaging a full album into a bundle of music with
ringtones, videos and other combinations and variation we found products
that consumers demonstrably valued and were willing to purchase at
premium prices. And guess what? We've sold tons of them. And with
Apple's co-operation to make discovering, accessing and purchasing these
products even more seamless and intuitive, we'll be offering many, many
more of these products going forward."

And the iPhone and iPod touch shows that approach can be made to work on
mobile platforms, he said.

----

So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue. Everyone in the industry
knows that, but it's good to see the Media companies finally waking up
to the new reality.

iPods are WONDERFUL, there is exactly zero chance at this point in time
that anyone will unseat it for the next 30-40 years. It's set in stone.

http://snipurl.com/1trbv

Jon

2007-11-16, 10:33 pm

Bill Gates wrote:
> Major news which could very well spell the end of Noika, Motorola,
> Samsung, LG and on and on... especially within the very non-competitive
> Cell Market. It looks like the iPhone has scored a massive hit, not only
> in record sales but by the people that own the content.
>
> "Nobody wants to use an "non-ipod" in their Phones, we all know that,
> but now the leading content company says the same thing is going to
> happen to all other MEDIA types."
>
> Wow!
>
> From Time Warner's Chief:
>
> "You need to look no further than Apple's iPhone to see how fast,
> brilliantly written software presented on a beautifully designed device
> with a spectacular user interface will throw all the accepted notions
> about pricing, billing platforms and brand loyalty right out the window.
>
> And let me remind you, the genesis of the iPhone is the iPod and iTunes
> - a music device and music service that consumers love."
>
> Quote from --- CEO Edgar Bronfman, Head of Warner Music
>
> Wow What a SMART GUY!
>
> The boss of Warner Music has made a rare public confession that the
> music industry has to take some of the blame for the rise of p2p file
> sharing.
>
> Speaking at the GSMA Mobile Asia Congress in Macau, Edgar Bronfman told
> mobile operators that they must not make the same mistake that the music
> industry made.
>
> "We used to fool ourselves,' he said. "We used to think our content was
> perfect just exactly as it was. We expected our business would remain
> blissfully unaffected even as the world of interactivity, constant
> connection and file sharing was exploding. And of course we were wrong.
> How were we wrong? By standing still or moving at a glacial pace, we
> inadvertently went to war with consumers by denying them what they
> wanted and could otherwise find and as a result of course, consumers
> won."
>
> Mobile operators risk the same, he said. Fewer than 10% of mobile owners
> buy music on their handset, the vast majority of which is ringtones.
>
> "The sad truth is that most of what consumers are being offered today on
> the mobile platform is boring, banal and basic," he said. "People want a
> more interesting form of mobile music content. They want it to be easy
> to buy with a single click - yes, a single click, not a dozen. And they
> want access to it, quickly and easily, wherever they are. 24/7. Any
> player in the mobile value chain who thinks they can provide less than a
> great experience for consumers and remain competitive is fooling
> themselves."
>
> Bronfman suggested that mobile companies have much to learn from Apple,
> despite being critical of and iTunes in the past.
>
> "For years now, Warner Music has been offering a choice to consumers at
> Apple's iTunes store the option to purchase something more than just
> single tracks, which constitute the mainstay of that store's sales," he
> explained. "By packaging a full album into a bundle of music with
> ringtones, videos and other combinations and variation we found products
> that consumers demonstrably valued and were willing to purchase at
> premium prices. And guess what? We've sold tons of them. And with
> Apple's co-operation to make discovering, accessing and purchasing these
> products even more seamless and intuitive, we'll be offering many, many
> more of these products going forward."
>
> And the iPhone and iPod touch shows that approach can be made to work on
> mobile platforms, he said.
>
> ----
>
> So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue. Everyone in the industry
> knows that, but it's good to see the Media companies finally waking up
> to the new reality.
>
> iPods are WONDERFUL, there is exactly zero chance at this point in time
> that anyone will unseat it for the next 30-40 years. It's set in stone.
>
> http://snipurl.com/1trbv
Please keep the iphail/ipood discussion out of the Verizon, Nokia, and
Sprint groups, as we don't want anything to do with that crap.

DTC

2007-11-16, 10:33 pm

Bill Gates wrote:
> "Nobody wants to use an "non-ipod" in their Phones, we all know that,
> but now the leading content company says the same thing is going to
> happen to all other MEDIA types."
>
> Wow!

I agree...WOW...how could anyone make such an all encompassing
outlandish statement.

> So to sum up, you have iTunes or no revenue.

So you're saying that if you don't have pay into iTunes, you won't get
your music. Golly, and here I always thought MS was the most closed company.

Bill Gates

2007-11-17, 4:33 am

DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:

>
> So you're saying that if you don't have pay into iTunes, you won't get
> your music. Golly, and here I always thought MS was the most closed company.

iTunes is free, much of the content on the iTunes Store is 100% free.

Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.

SWEET ----->

http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

IMHO IIRC

2007-11-17, 4:33 am

In news:im-12E4BD.21342216112007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net,
Bill Gates <im@IEdiedtoday.com> typed:
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>
> iTunes is free, much of the content on the iTunes Store is 100% free.
>
> Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
> has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.
>
> SWEET ----->
>
> http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/

Music More than 6 million songs. 99¢ each.
Movies New and classic films from $9.99.
Music Videos More than 11,000, $1.99 each.
TV Shows 600 shows at $1.99 an episode.
iPod Games $4.99 each. Countless hours of fun.

Jon

2007-11-17, 4:33 am

Bill Gates wrote:
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>
> iTunes is free, much of the content on the iTunes Store is 100% free.
>
> Apple uses open standards on iTunes, MP3, AIFF, WAV, MPEG-4, AACit also
> has the largest non-protected music selection on earth.
>
> SWEET ----->
>
> http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/
iTunes itself is free, songs cost money, iTunes music has DRM protection
on it.

Bill Gates

2007-11-17, 4:33 am

Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:

> iTunes itself is free, songs cost money, iTunes music has DRM protection
> on it.

there are a lot of free songs on there, 10,000's of free podcasts,
videos, audiobooks, college courses, sports, news, radio, etc....

only some iTunes songs have DRM required by the record companies, but
plenty of them no longer do.

itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in the world.

2,000,000 of them are free of DRM and of higher quality than other music
stores and just .99 cents.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/17itunes.html

-

News

2007-11-17, 7:33 am

IMHO IIRC wrote:

>
> Music More than 6 million songs. 99¢ each.
> Movies New and classic films from $9.99.
> Music Videos More than 11,000, $1.99 each.
> TV Shows 600 shows at $1.99 an episode.
> iPod Games $4.99 each. Countless hours of fun.
>
>

KoolAid All the flavors. Free, every day.

News

2007-11-17, 7:33 am

CozmicDebris

2007-11-17, 10:33 am

Bill Gates <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in
news:im-9C8513.01441317112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:

> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>
>
> there are a lot of free songs on there, 10,000's of free podcasts,
> videos, audiobooks, college courses, sports, news, radio, etc....

Wow- sounds like free radio to me. But let me guess- SI invented that as
well?

>
> only some iTunes songs have DRM required by the record companies, but
> plenty of them no longer do.
>
> itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in the
> world.

iTunes has a relevent library of about 100,000 songs, in line with many
other online providers.

>
> 2,000,000 of them are free of DRM and of higher quality than other
> music stores and just .99 cents.

Higher quality how?

Larry

2007-11-17, 10:33 am

"IMHO IIRC" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in news:Nzu%i.840$mY1.562
@newsfe24.lga:

> Music More than 6 million songs. 99½ each.
> Movies New and classic films from $9.99.
> Music Videos More than 11,000, $1.99 each.
> TV Shows 600 shows at $1.99 an episode.
> iPod Games $4.99 each. Countless hours of fun.
Music - billions of songs. FREE - alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(genre)
Movies - thousands. FREE - alt.binaries.movies.divx
Music Videos - FREE alt.binaries.multimedia.(many places)
TV Shows - FREE alt.binaries.hdtv or alt.binaries.tv.(genre)
iPod Games - They must be there, somewhere...(c;

Don't bullshit me and tell me you don't download. If you don't
download, it's because you don't know how...(c;

Larry
--
Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;

Larry

2007-11-17, 10:33 am

Bill Gates <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in news:im-
9C8513.01441317112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:

> itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in
the world.
>

Not true. USENET has the largest online library in the world.

Larry
--
Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;

Jon

2007-11-17, 10:33 am

Bill Gates wrote:
> Jon <Jon@Cebridge.net> wrote:
>
>
> there are a lot of free songs on there, 10,000's of free podcasts,
> videos, audiobooks, college courses, sports, news, radio, etc....
>
> only some iTunes songs have DRM required by the record companies, but
> plenty of them no longer do.
>
> itunes has over 6,000,000 songs, the largest online library in the world.
>
> 2,000,000 of them are free of DRM and of higher quality than other music
> stores and just .99 cents.
>
> http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/10/17itunes.html
>
> -
but why pay .99 cents why you can get them for FREE?

Jon

2007-11-17, 10:33 am

Larry wrote:
> Bill Gates <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in news:im-
> 9C8513.01441317112007@mpls-nnrp-06.inet.qwest.net:
>
> the world.
>
> Not true. USENET has the largest online library in the world.
>
> Larry
True that!

Jon

2007-11-17, 10:33 am

Larry wrote:
> "IMHO IIRC" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in news:Nzu%i.840$mY1.562
> @newsfe24.lga:
>
> Music - billions of songs. FREE - alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.(genre)
> Movies - thousands. FREE - alt.binaries.movies.divx
> Music Videos - FREE alt.binaries.multimedia.(many places)
> TV Shows - FREE alt.binaries.hdtv or alt.binaries.tv.(genre)
> iPod Games - They must be there, somewhere...(c;
>
> Don't bullshit me and tell me you don't download. If you don't
> download, it's because you don't know how...(c;
>
> Larry
iPod Games - FREE (http://ipodstuff.org/?page_id=21)
These hacked games only work if you have a 5G or 5.5G (iPod Video)
iPods. All but 1 5/5.5G game has been hacked, the unhacked game being
Phase)

Bill Gates

2007-11-17, 12:33 pm

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> the world.
>
> Not true. USENET has the largest online library in the world.

but not of high quality, much less legal. and no, usenet doesn't have
6,000,000 unique tracks, not even close.

maybe Gnutella/Limewire based networks, but it's still a bit of a
crapshoot to find consistent quality like itunes has. but yes, way
better than usenet.

-

Larry

2007-11-18, 3:33 pm

Bill Gates <im@IEdiedtoday.com> wrote in news:im-
1A2CA9.10000817112007@mpls-nnrp-02.inet.qwest.net:

> but not of high quality, much less legal. and no, usenet
doesn't have
> 6,000,000 unique tracks, not even close.
>
>

Not all at once, but there are about 5000 DVD+Rs full of MP3,
FLAC, etc., in huge racks on the wall that say otherwise over the
long term...(c;

One of these days they're going to stop it. When that happens, I
will simply disconnect and spend the rest of my life "catching
up" on stuff I've never heard.

About "high quality"......"High quality" what? Rock? Hip-Hop?
What nonsense. You boys remind me of the audiofools who used to
record at 15 ips on massive reels of really expensive tapes...(c;

I want you to test YOU. Go to an audiologist and tell him you
want your hearing scanned and YOUR response graphed. The graph
in ANY human, including YOU, looks just like the outline of the
Swiss Alps from 30 miles away. The only limit to how the music
sounds is between YOUR ears! Those born into the "kilowatt amp
era" will find their hearing so impared spending over $10 for a
pair of cheap headphones is a total travesty. Try it, I dare
you! Ask your doctor who can do it, so he gets his cut.

Now, find an expensive DJ setup in a place like Guitar Center or
other big music store that sells DJ equipment. Take the cheapest
MP3 player you can find, mine was free with a portable drill from
Mitsubishi, and put it in your pocket loaded up with your
favorite music and an adapter cable with mini phone plug for the
player to RCA plugs for the audio board at the store. Tell the
salesman you want to hear YOUR music played on the biggest, not
most expensive, speakers in the stack from any of the amps.
Doesn't that sound just great?! Is it all distorted? The player
volume control is too high overdriving the audio board's input
amp....just turn the player down and the gain on the board up.

Since analog audio was dumped with the advent of the CD, audio
has been sampled at 44.1Kbps and humans cannot tell the
difference because they can't hear above about 10-11 kHz, anyway.
(Audiologist test will prove your high end limit rolloff).
Paying extra for audio bandwidth above what you can sense is
STUPID! RIAA Equalization hasn't changed since the invention of
FM in the 40's. Music is recorded from 50-15000 Hz...NO MATTER
WHAT. FM radio's audio bandwidth is why. Music is to SELL, not
be the greatest adverture on the planet. FCC regulations limit
the FM transmitter's modulation index to protect adjacent
channels from interference, so we limit the audio bandwidth
accordingly or there's hell-to-pay on an inspection. 44.1Kbps
doesn't distort 15Khz unless you have some really expensive
measuring equipment, which you don't. So, it's fine.

MP3 compression above 64 Kbps on a 44.1Kbps audio wave sample is
also wasteful and stupid. Most MP3 samples at 128Kbps add no
perceptable change, at all, to the 44.1Kbps audio sample rate of
the CD the music came off of.....or of the MP3 sample the radio
station is probably playing off satellite compression, either.
What you get from excessive sample rates is the fast compression
can also compress any high frequency pink noise present that gets
wiped out by the slower compression.

I'm sorry, but that's reality. NOTHING you have is a live
performance that hasn't already been bastardized by digital
conversion...starting at a mere 44.1 Khz on that CD in your hand.
Hell, it doesn't even have error correction....

When you head out to the DJ store, put some 64Kbps and 128Kbps on
the player with the 320Kbps oversampling nonsense. Play it
through the big speakers and tell me you can REALLY hear the
difference. If you can, you must have some canine ancestors that
gave you an extraordinary hearing sensors. Noone else
can.....EXCEPT IN THEIR MINDS from the brainwashing and
marketing.

Larry
--
Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;

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