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Why is this newsgroup still called "Voicestream"?
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| This just occurred to me. It has been years now since Voicestream was bought
out by T-Mobile. A lot of people probably are not aware of that connection.
Many might look for a T-Mobile newsgroup, not find one, and assume that no
such NG exists.
I don't know who has responsibility for newsgroup naming (is there a
"Newsgroup Duke" in the "Kingdom of the Internet"? ;-) ), but it sure would
make much more sense to have this NG be called simply:
alt.cellular.t-mobile, or alt.cellular.t-mobile-usa.
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| corvus187@hotmail.com 2005-12-22, 5:48 pm |
| The question "Why?" has two possible answers:
1. Why not?
2. Because.
A joke from logic/philosophy.
I guess this issue has been brought up before and the answer if I
recall was along the lines of it's too much of a pain in the XXX to
change it. Being ignorant of the technical aspects of NG name changes,
I accept that.
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| ^'^BatAttaK^'^ 2005-12-22, 11:48 pm |
| On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:35:56 GMT, "MS" <ms@nospam.com> wrote:
>This just occurred to me. It has been years now since Voicestream was bought
>out by T-Mobile. A lot of people probably are not aware of that connection.
>Many might look for a T-Mobile newsgroup, not find one, and assume that no
>such NG exists.
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>I don't know who has responsibility for newsgroup naming (is there a
>"Newsgroup Duke" in the "Kingdom of the Internet"? ;-) ), but it sure would
>make much more sense to have this NG be called simply:
>alt.cellular.t-mobile, or alt.cellular.t-mobile-usa.
>
This was proposed to thee "Gods of the Usenet" when the merger was
complete. They simply responded that if they change it now they will
just have to change it again in a couple of years when T-Mobile merges
once again.
The AT&T newsgroup is virtually dead now with all of the posters
moving to the Cingular group.
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| Steve Sobol 2005-12-22, 11:48 pm |
| ^'^BatAttaK^'^ wrote:
> This was proposed to thee "Gods of the Usenet" when the merger was
> complete. They simply responded that if they change it now they will
> just have to change it again in a couple of years when T-Mobile merges
> once again.
There's absolutely nothing to stop ANYONE from following the process for
creating a new newsgroup. For alt groups that's a lot less involved than
groups in the Big 8 hierarchies (soc, comp, news, etc.)
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| Donald Newcomb 2005-12-26, 5:48 pm |
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"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
news:43AB5651.307@JustThe.net...
> There's absolutely nothing to stop ANYONE from following the process for
> creating a new newsgroup. For alt groups that's a lot less involved than
> groups in the Big 8 hierarchies (soc, comp, news, etc.)
My understanding, which may be about 10 years out of date, is that while
there was a way to create Usenet groups, there was no way to delete or reame
them. That's why there's probably now about 40,000 groups.
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Donald R. Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
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| John Richards 2005-12-26, 5:48 pm |
| "Donald Newcomb" <DRNewcomb@NOT.attglobal.net> wrote in message news:43affcf6@kcnews
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> "Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
> news:43AB5651.307@JustThe.net...
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> My understanding, which may be about 10 years out of date, is that while
> there was a way to create Usenet groups, there was no way to delete or reame
> them.
While that is true, it doesn't present a major barrier to starting a new T-Mobile
newsgroup. We'd simply subscribe to both. Then gradually as traffic on the old
group dwindled to nothing, people would unsubscribe from it.
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John Richards
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| Cyrus Afzali 2005-12-27, 2:48 am |
| On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 08:22:24 -0600, "Donald Newcomb"
<DRNewcomb@NOT.attglobal.net> wrote:
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>"Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
>news:43AB5651.307@JustThe.net...
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>My understanding, which may be about 10 years out of date, is that while
>there was a way to create Usenet groups, there was no way to delete or reame
>them. That's why there's probably now about 40,000 groups.
That's true. However, many, if not most newservers delete groups from
their active file that haven't had activity within a certain period.
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| Sven Golly 2005-12-27, 2:48 am |
| Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in news:43AB5651.307@JustThe.net:
> There's absolutely nothing to stop ANYONE from following the process for
> creating a new newsgroup. For alt groups that's a lot less involved than
> groups in the Big 8 hierarchies (soc, comp, news, etc.)
http://www.visi.com/~barr/alt-creation-guide.html
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Sven Golly
Yah sure by gosh by yumpin' yiminy
Trolling as usual
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| Bill Radio 2005-12-28, 2:48 am |
| There is indeed an "alt.cellular.t-mobile" newsgroup! I was wondering why
it was so quiet there, but it seems very few ISP's have allowed
subscriptions to it...yet. Earthlink does access it, but Supernews & many
others do not. The only way you'll get it is to complain to your ISP to add
it.
Bill Radio
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http://www.mountainwireless.com
"Donald Newcomb" <DRNewcomb@NOT.attglobal.net> wrote in message
news:43affcf6@kcnews
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> "Steve Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
> news:43AB5651.307@JustThe.net...
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> My understanding, which may be about 10 years out of date, is that while
> there was a way to create Usenet groups, there was no way to delete or
reame
> them. That's why there's probably now about 40,000 groups.
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> --
> Donald R. Newcomb
> DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
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| Dave Botsch 2005-12-28, 11:48 pm |
| Yep... Time Warner is definitely NOT carrying this group. Will have to
request it.
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:03:26 -0700, Bill Radio wrote:
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> There is indeed an "alt.cellular.t-mobile" newsgroup! I was wondering why
> it was so quiet there, but it seems very few ISP's have allowed
> subscriptions to it...yet. Earthlink does access it, but Supernews & many
> others do not. The only way you'll get it is to complain to your ISP to add
> it.
>
> Bill Radio
> Click for Wireless Reviews at:
> http://www.mountainwireless.com
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> "Donald Newcomb" <DRNewcomb@NOT.attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:43affcf6@kcnews
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> reame
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| John Richards 2005-12-28, 11:48 pm |
| Nor does SBC carry it.
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John Richards
"Dave Botsch" <dwb7@cornell.edu> wrote in message news:pan.2005.12.28.23.49.03.472588@cornell.edu...[color=darkred]
> Yep... Time Warner is definitely NOT carrying this group. Will have to
> request it.
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> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:03:26 -0700, Bill Radio wrote:
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| Dave Botsch 2005-12-29, 2:48 am |
| although I have not confirmed it myself, looking at the discussion in
alt.config, it seems there may not be a request for an
alt.cellular.t-mobile newsgroup. Maybe it's just a "local" group on a few
servers that was created and then rmgroup'ed?
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:03:26 -0700, Bill Radio wrote:
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> There is indeed an "alt.cellular.t-mobile" newsgroup! I was wondering why
> it was so quiet there, but it seems very few ISP's have allowed
> subscriptions to it...yet. Earthlink does access it, but Supernews & many
> others do not. The only way you'll get it is to complain to your ISP to add
> it.
>
> Bill Radio
> Click for Wireless Reviews at:
> http://www.mountainwireless.com
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> "Donald Newcomb" <DRNewcomb@NOT.attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:43affcf6@kcnews
01...
> reame
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| Donald Newcomb 2005-12-29, 5:48 pm |
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"Dave Botsch" <dwb7@cornell.edu> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.12.28.23.49.03.472588@cornell.edu...
> Yep... Time Warner is definitely NOT carrying this group. Will have to
> request it.
Neither is ATTGlobal.
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Donald R. Newcomb
DRNewcomb (at) attglobal (dot) net
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| Cyrus Afzali 2005-12-29, 5:48 pm |
| On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 04:38:35 GMT, Dave Botsch <dwb7@cornell.edu>
wrote:
>although I have not confirmed it myself, looking at the discussion in
>alt.config, it seems there may not be a request for an
>alt.cellular.t-mobile newsgroup. Maybe it's just a "local" group on a few
>servers that was created and then rmgroup'ed?
It doesn't turn up on Google Groups either, so I'm beginning to
believe it is indeed not an actual Usenet newsgroup, but something
that never propagated past a few servers.[color=darkred]
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>On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:03:26 -0700, Bill Radio wrote:
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