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Author Razr on July 11th at TMobile?!
SFB

2005-06-20, 6:55 am

I have been reading a couple of threads on the HowardForums.com website
lately. It appears that several ALLEGED TMobile Reps have been informed
that the Razr will be released by TMobile on July 11th. No prices yet,
but 2 of these posters were "right on" when it came to info on the V330
release date also...

SFB

Mike Schumann

2005-06-23, 10:55 pm

Is the Razr firmware any better than the V330's? If not, I would strongly
suggest you avoid this phone. If it is, then why is the V330 so screwed up?

Mike Schumann

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quote:

>I have been reading a couple of threads on the HowardForums.com website
>lately. It appears that several ALLEGED TMobile Reps have been informed
>that the Razr will be released by TMobile on July 11th. No prices yet, but
>2 of these posters were "right on" when it came to info on the V330 release
>date also...
>
> SFB
>



BruceR

2005-06-23, 10:55 pm

Not sure what the v330 issues are but I can tell you that the razr works
exactly as advertised with no bugs.

From:Mike Schumann
mike-nospam@traditions-nospam.com
[vbcol=darkred]
> Is the Razr firmware any better than the V330's? If not, I would
> strongly suggest you avoid this phone. If it is, then why is the
> V330 so screwed up?
> Mike Schumann
>
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ScorpionKing@attNOSPAM.net

2005-06-24, 4:55 pm

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:12:39 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
wrote:
quote:

>Not sure what the v330 issues are but I can tell you that the razr

works[vbcol=darkred]

>exactly as advertised with no bugs.
>
>From:Mike Schumann
>mike-nospam@traditions-nospam.com
>

Yes, what are the issues with the V330? I just got one yesterday.
I'm leaving the Kyocera 7135. It's a woderful phone if it didn't
require a hard reset every other week. It's also a little big.
--
Scorp
SFB

2005-06-24, 10:55 pm

Please let me know about your experiences with your new V330. While
there has been some issues reported by others about not keeping the
Shortcuts after the phone is turned off, there really hasn't been that
much negative (posted online) about this phone... except by Mike who
appears to have had a VERY BAD experience with the new V330... it
appears at least as bad as the old V300 which generated numerous
complaints online...

I have NEVER had a bad Motorola phone... albeit I haven't had many over
the last 4-5 years... my V60 worked PERFECTLY for over 2.5 years...
While I am not 100% happy about email being "turned off" on the V330 (I
am told to prevent people from sending photos as attachments to their
emails rather than paying the 25 cents each for MMS) and I would have
liked a memory card option (as in the V635), it seems to be a OK midline
phone with a lot of options... photo, video, voice dialing etc.

The absence of NEGATIVE postings online seems to imply that most new
owners are reasonably happy with their new V330s... A BAD phone
generates a LOT MORE postings than a GOOD ONE...

Thanks for your input!

SFB


ScorpionKing@attNOSP
AM.net wrote:
quote:

> On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 22:12:39 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> works
>
>
>
> Yes, what are the issues with the V330? I just got one yesterday.
> I'm leaving the Kyocera 7135. It's a woderful phone if it didn't
> require a hard reset every other week. It's also a little big.


Mike Schumann

2005-06-25, 6:55 am

I use my phone for business, and it needs to work 100% of the time, not
95%. Things like turning itself off when it is done charging, may not
bother some people, but when I miss 2 hours worth of calls because of this,
it's not acceptable.

The Nokias that I have owned have always been rock solid. I'm not looking
for lots of frills (like cameras, etc.). All I want is quad band GSM and
modem capability so that I can use the phone with a laptop, and 100%
reliability. When Nokia comes out with a phone like that I'll be upgrading.
Until then, Motorola had their shot and blew it.

Mike Schumann

"SFB" <news@spenceburton.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
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quote:

> Please let me know about your experiences with your new V330. While there
> has been some issues reported by others about not keeping the Shortcuts
> after the phone is turned off, there really hasn't been that much negative
> (posted online) about this phone... except by Mike who appears to have had
> a VERY BAD experience with the new V330... it appears at least as bad as
> the old V300 which generated numerous complaints online...
>
> I have NEVER had a bad Motorola phone... albeit I haven't had many over
> the last 4-5 years... my V60 worked PERFECTLY for over 2.5 years... While
> I am not 100% happy about email being "turned off" on the V330 (I am told
> to prevent people from sending photos as attachments to their emails
> rather than paying the 25 cents each for MMS) and I would have liked a
> memory card option (as in the V635), it seems to be a OK midline phone
> with a lot of options... photo, video, voice dialing etc.
>
> The absence of NEGATIVE postings online seems to imply that most new
> owners are reasonably happy with their new V330s... A BAD phone generates
> a LOT MORE postings than a GOOD ONE...
>
> Thanks for your input!
>
> SFB
>
>
> ScorpionKing@attNOSP
AM.net wrote:
>



SFB

2005-06-25, 6:55 am

Ooooooooooops, forgot about that "turning itself off after charging"
that IS a major item for me also... since I normally charge it at night
when we go to sleep... turning itself off in the middle of the night IS
BAD NEWS...

Now as far as 100% of the time... I would be willing to sell you my old
V60 when I upgrade... it has NEVER had any problems in the last several
years.... HEY I'M ONLY KIDDING... it is NOT for sale!

As for Nokias, I can't give any personal review.. except that I really
do not like BRICKS... I'm a "flip phone" person by nature... :)

SFB

Mike Schumann wrote:
quote:

> I use my phone for business, and it needs to work 100% of the time, not
> 95%. Things like turning itself off when it is done charging, may not
> bother some people, but when I miss 2 hours worth of calls because of this,
> it's not acceptable.
>
> The Nokias that I have owned have always been rock solid. I'm not looking
> for lots of frills (like cameras, etc.). All I want is quad band GSM and
> modem capability so that I can use the phone with a laptop, and 100%
> reliability. When Nokia comes out with a phone like that I'll be upgrading.
> Until then, Motorola had their shot and blew it.
>
> Mike Schumann
>
> "SFB" <news@spenceburton.comNOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:GsednZi0XsTIPSH
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>
>
>


Steven de Mena

2005-06-25, 9:55 am


"Mike Schumann" <mike-nospam@traditions-nospam.com> wrote in message
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quote:

>I use my phone for business, and it needs to work 100% of the time, not
>95%. Things like turning itself off when it is done charging, may not
>bother some people, but when I miss 2 hours worth of calls because of this,
>it's not acceptable.
>
> The Nokias that I have owned have always been rock solid. I'm not looking
> for lots of frills (like cameras, etc.). All I want is quad band GSM and
> modem capability so that I can use the phone with a laptop, and 100%
> reliability. When Nokia comes out with a phone like that I'll be
> upgrading. Until then, Motorola had their shot and blew it.
>
> Mike Schumann


I sure hope Motorola can recover from losing you as a customer.

Steve


ScorpionKing@attNOSPAM.net

2005-06-27, 4:55 pm

On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:49:35 -0700, SFB <news@spenceburton.comNOSPAM>
wrote:
quote:

>Ooooooooooops, forgot about that "turning itself off after charging"
>that IS a major item for me also... since I normally charge it at

night
quote:


>when we go to sleep... turning itself off in the middle of the night

IS
quote:

>BAD NEWS...
>
>Now as far as 100% of the time... I would be willing to sell you my

old
quote:

>V60 when I upgrade... it has NEVER had any problems in the last

several
quote:

>years.... HEY I'M ONLY KIDDING... it is NOT for sale!
>
>As for Nokias, I can't give any personal review.. except that I

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>do not like BRICKS... I'm a "flip phone" person by nature... :)
>
>SFB
>
>Mike Schumann wrote:
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So far, I like the V330. I took it with me down to San Diego this
weekend. I use TMO on this phone. The phone had good reception
everywhere, even on an aircraft carrier.

Coming from the Kyocera, the thngs I notice are lack of address book.
I can live with out it, but I admit I got used to it with the Kyocera.

The only charging of the phone I've done is in the car and I'm pretty
sure the phone stayed on. Is this a wall charger issue with it
shutting down?

My only real problem thus far is getting the phone to sync with my Mac
through Bluetooth. I suspect this is a Mac issue though. I'm working
on it, so time will tell.

After the 7135 the V330 feels very small.
--
Scorp
SFB

2005-06-27, 10:55 pm

Thanks Scorp...

As for the charging and then turning off.. all the postings I have read
have referred to the "wall charger"... supposedly one the charge is
completed using the "wall charger" it automatically turns off the V330

It would be strange IF it didn't work the same way with the auto
charger... unless of course a "full charge" wasn't done and you removed
the phone BEFORE the charge was completed so it didn't have a chance to
turn off... please keep me posted if you leave it on the car charger for
a full charge...

The phonebook issue is definetly a Motorola design issue... even with my
old V60... I sure wish they would improve it... I normally carry a Palm
and my phone because of this... I guess I could get a Treo 650 and do
the same thing...

SFB

ScorpionKing@attNOSP
AM.net wrote:
quote:

> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:49:35 -0700, SFB <news@spenceburton.comNOSPAM>
> wrote:
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> upgrading.
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> So far, I like the V330. I took it with me down to San Diego this
> weekend. I use TMO on this phone. The phone had good reception
> everywhere, even on an aircraft carrier.
>
> Coming from the Kyocera, the thngs I notice are lack of address book.
> I can live with out it, but I admit I got used to it with the Kyocera.
>
> The only charging of the phone I've done is in the car and I'm pretty
> sure the phone stayed on. Is this a wall charger issue with it
> shutting down?
>
> My only real problem thus far is getting the phone to sync with my Mac
> through Bluetooth. I suspect this is a Mac issue though. I'm working
> on it, so time will tell.
>
> After the 7135 the V330 feels very small.


ScorpionKing@attNOSPAM.net

2005-06-30, 4:55 pm

On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:41:18 -0700, SFB <news@spenceburton.comNOSPAM>
wrote:
quote:

>Thanks Scorp...
>
>As for the charging and then turning off.. all the postings I have

read
quote:

>have referred to the "wall charger"... supposedly one the charge is
>completed using the "wall charger" it automatically turns off the

V330
quote:

>
>It would be strange IF it didn't work the same way with the auto
>charger... unless of course a "full charge" wasn't done and you

removed
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>the phone BEFORE the charge was completed so it didn't have a chance

to
quote:

>turn off... please keep me posted if you leave it on the car charger

for
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>a full charge...
>
>The phonebook issue is definetly a Motorola design issue... even with

my
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>old V60... I sure wish they would improve it... I normally carry a

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>the same thing...
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>SFB
>
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Maybe I'm the only one, but I charged my V330 overnight on the wall
charger and the phone did NOT turn off. Now, maybe it was not fully
charged, but the icon indicates it is. I would think that 6 hours
would fully charge the phone, but maybe I'm wrong.

My wife is sold on the phone simply because she was able to maintain
reception in an area she drops a call in almost daily. She has been
on Cingular with the V60, but now on TMO with the V330

The only issue I'm having with the phone thus far is the ring type
button on the left side. I wear the phone on my belt and It's always
changing ring style, loud, vibrate ect. Now, it could be because I
also have my Kyocera 7135 right next to it on my belt. I'm, going to
move the 7135 and see if that fixes the problem.

I've only dropped one call all week and the sound quality is good.
I'm liking the phone more and more.

One reason I bought the phone is that I wanted to sync with isync on
my Mac. I couldn't do it, I was blaming the phone, but It turns out I
need to have the Tiger OS to sync with MOT phones.
--
Scorp
Steven de Mena

2005-07-01, 9:55 am


< ScorpionKing@attNOSP
AM.net> wrote in message
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quote:

> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 14:41:18 -0700, SFB <news@spenceburton.comNOSPAM>
> wrote:
> Maybe I'm the only one, but I charged my V330 overnight on the wall
> charger and the phone did NOT turn off. Now, maybe it was not fully
> charged, but the icon indicates it is. I would think that 6 hours
> would fully charge the phone, but maybe I'm wrong.


I have had a number of Motorola phones over the years, including my current
black RAZR V3, and none of them have turned off after charging up.
quote:

>
> My wife is sold on the phone simply because she was able to maintain
> reception in an area she drops a call in almost daily. She has been
> on Cingular with the V60, but now on TMO with the V330
>
> The only issue I'm having with the phone thus far is the ring type
> button on the left side. I wear the phone on my belt and It's always
> changing ring style, loud, vibrate ect. Now, it could be because I
> also have my Kyocera 7135 right next to it on my belt. I'm, going to
> move the 7135 and see if that fixes the problem.


I think I read a sort-of workaround, and that was to block access to that
function by requiring a password, and thus it would not get changed
accidentally.

Steve


mvl_groups_user@yahoo.com

2005-07-11, 9:55 am

The RAZR's not up on T-mobile's web site yet. Anyone see it at any
store vendors? What are the prices?

-MVL

Niedzwiedz

2005-07-11, 4:55 pm

It's $199.
Take a look here: shop.t-mobile.com

Andy


mvl_groups_user@yahoo.com

2005-07-11, 4:55 pm

Thanks. It was on the site at 7:30 this morning. It is now.

Greg P

2005-07-12, 6:55 am

I'm thinking about the razr to replace my v300, but I really don't
know a whole lot about them. Good phone? How does it compare to others
in the $200 price range? Pros/cons of the phone?
BruceR

2005-07-12, 6:55 am

I can tell you that it's far superior to the v600 if that helps. Best
phone I've ever owned in my 20+ years of carrying one.

From:Greg P
curly@removethis.insightbb.com
quote:

> I'm thinking about the razr to replace my v300, but I really don't
> know a whole lot about them. Good phone? How does it compare to others
> in the $200 price range? Pros/cons of the phone?



David

2005-07-13, 6:55 am

In article <lKIAe.20951$aA5.18447@tornado.socal.rr.com>, BruceR
<brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:
quote:

> I can tell you that it's far superior to the v600 if that helps. Best
> phone I've ever owned in my 20+ years of carrying one.


Was wondering if you could please elaborate on the differences you find
between the v600 vs. the Razr v3. I'm looking to get a new phone and
those are two of my top choices.

Even though the v3 is thinner, I like that the v600 is not as wide as
the v3. How do the pictures from the phone cameras compare?

Also, if there are any Mac users out there who own a Motorola phone,
I'm looking to get a Motorola because they can sync contacts and
calendars with Macs and my current Samsung phone can't. Apple's site
indicates that both the v3 and v600 can sync contacts and calendars via
iSync, but I've also read some posts from Mac users who sync their
Motorola phones with their Macs using PC-emulators and PC software. Are
there problems with using Mac's software? Also, is it possible to
tranfer the pictures on the cell phone cameras to a Mac via USB or must
one spend money to e-mail them to yourself?

Thanks,
David
BruceR

2005-07-13, 6:55 am

First, re the MAC interface, check out
http://www.datapilot.com/mac_features.htm. I have the PC edition of
Data Pilot and it's a very good program well supported and well worth
the money. Works with both the v600 & the v3 (as well as most other
phones). Allows picture transfers to your PC from the camera.

Now to the first part of your question. Having owned a v600 for about
year before getting the v3, here are the differences as I see them.
Others may see them differently:

Reception - markedly better. Marginal locations are much improved.
Displays - FAR superior to the v600 unless they've upgraded it.
Brighter, sharper lettering and clearer pictures. Extra width of phone
means slightly larger screen size.
Camera - better - but don't throw out your Nikon... or your Brownie.
Size - The phone is the same width as the old StarTAC which, frankly, I
find much easier to hold than the thinner but thicker v600. My hands are
average size.
Antenna - Internal antenna superior to external. Dosen't get stuck in
your pocket and won't break off. Location is at bottom of phone further
from eyeballs (I'm not saying that phone signals will hurt you; only
mentioning it because of claims made by some that they may).
Screens - the screen windows both inside and out are made of the same
type of scratch resistant material as used in fine watch crystals. After
8 months both screens are absolutely perfect on the v3. The v600 uses a
plastic film that scratches easily. In fact, after a few months the
outline of the keypad is permanently etched to the screen.
Case - The metal case on the v3 is strong and scratch resistant. Still
looks new even after a couple of drops. The v600 metal parts are good
but the big plastic piece in the center tends to develop cracks near the
hinge and scuffs easily.
Keypad - Easier (again for ME) to dial on the v3. Letters are harder to
read but I don't text much.

Hope that's detailed enough ;o) To me the v600 (now a 2+ year old
phone) appears old and clunky (once again to ME) while the Razr,
approaching it's first birthday, is still an outstanding looking phone.
While I wouldn't tolerate poor quality for style, it's nice to have
both. Motorola really outdid themselves with this phone and if I lost
mine I'd buy another in a heartbeat.

I'm sure others will have some different opinions and what I see as good
another may find not so good - that's why they still sell both! The v600
is not a bad phone by any means but the v3 is a worth evolution in a
damn fine lookin' package.


From:David
nobody@nowhere.com
quote:

> In article <lKIAe.20951$aA5.18447@tornado.socal.rr.com>, BruceR
> <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:
>
>
> Was wondering if you could please elaborate on the differences you
> find between the v600 vs. the Razr v3. I'm looking to get a new phone
> and those are two of my top choices.
>
> Even though the v3 is thinner, I like that the v600 is not as wide as
> the v3. How do the pictures from the phone cameras compare?
>
> Also, if there are any Mac users out there who own a Motorola phone,
> I'm looking to get a Motorola because they can sync contacts and
> calendars with Macs and my current Samsung phone can't. Apple's site
> indicates that both the v3 and v600 can sync contacts and calendars
> via iSync, but I've also read some posts from Mac users who sync their
> Motorola phones with their Macs using PC-emulators and PC software.
> Are there problems with using Mac's software? Also, is it possible to
> tranfer the pictures on the cell phone cameras to a Mac via USB or
> must one spend money to e-mail them to yourself?
>
> Thanks,
> David



Art Gorski

2005-07-13, 10:55 pm

In article < 130720050022517199%n
obody@nowhere.com>,
David <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
quote:

> Also, if there are any Mac users out there who own a Motorola phone,
> I'm looking to get a Motorola because they can sync contacts and
> calendars with Macs and my current Samsung phone can't. Apple's site
> indicates that both the v3 and v600 can sync contacts and calendars via
> iSync, but I've also read some posts from Mac users who sync their
> Motorola phones with their Macs using PC-emulators and PC software. Are
> there problems with using Mac's software?


I don't believe the Moto has a complete address book that will iSync
street addresses or multiple phone numbers per contact. If you need
that then look at the Nokia Series 60 or SE P9x0 phones which will
exactly sync whats on your Mac including address book pictures.

--
* Please remove NOSPAM from address when replying via email! *
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Greg P

2005-07-13, 10:55 pm

Well, I went down to the tmobile place at the mall today. They'd just
gotten in a razr and I played around with it. It does seem like a nice
little phone. A bit wider than my v300, though. Not sure I like that.

I'm sitting here trying to decide if I want to shell out the $200 to
get one of these. I am going to need a new phone soon... lol
BruceR

2005-07-14, 6:55 am

You'll get used to the extra width quickly. It's actually easier to hold
on to. Same as the old StarTAC. The thinness makes it easy to carry in
your pocket without a bulge. After having mine since November, I'm still
enthused about it.

From:Greg P
curly@removethis.insightbb.com
quote:

> Well, I went down to the tmobile place at the mall today. They'd just
> gotten in a razr and I played around with it. It does seem like a nice
> little phone. A bit wider than my v300, though. Not sure I like that.
>
> I'm sitting here trying to decide if I want to shell out the $200 to
> get one of these. I am going to need a new phone soon... lol



David

2005-07-14, 6:55 am

BruceR,

Thanks for your informative side-by-side comparison of the v3 and v600.
Very insightful and persuasive.

Data Pilot looks promising too and actually it does seem to do what I'd
want in terms of synching, which might make make the need for me to
change phones less urgent. But you've done such good job at selling me
on the Razr, how can I resist? :-)

Thanks again,
David
BruceR

2005-07-14, 9:55 am

Glad to be of some help.

From:David
nobody@nowhere.com
quote:

> BruceR,
>
> Thanks for your informative side-by-side comparison of the v3 and
> v600. Very insightful and persuasive.
>
> Data Pilot looks promising too and actually it does seem to do what
> I'd want in terms of synching, which might make make the need for me
> to change phones less urgent. But you've done such good job at
> selling me on the Razr, how can I resist? :-)
>
> Thanks again,
> David



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